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sad but seemingly true: gulc '12 produced approx. 10 coa clerks

was looking at our symplicity trying to help some rising 3L ...
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Why would it produce more? If anything that seems high.
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class of 640 or so, usually pops out a scotus clerk a year. ...
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United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/20/12
it's just a coa clerkship. there are, what, about 600 of the...
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you have six hundred warm bodies. on a good day, only 30 or ...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/20/12
well, top editors on the Law Journal who are below top 5% bu...
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that's adding maybe 2-3 people (EIC, articles, maybe one oth...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/20/12
2%, but point taken. I don't think the judge is an asshole, ...
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oh and also, a ton of those 12 aren't '12 grads; the sykes c...
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haha they can't all be winners. even if he's not the warmest...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/20/12
How's the Lawl Center's BigLaw placement these days?
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I think it's like a 40/60 proposition
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30%
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37% if you assume that the 4% clerking will do biglaw (thoug...
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actually, 12. so if you rate this out, at UVA's class size t...
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I mean, that's not bad for a Law Center.
Louis Posteur  06/20/12
what's sad is that Fisher (3d cir) and Gregory (4th cir) amo...
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bumped for the gulc-bashing crowd
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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:36 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

was looking at our symplicity trying to help some rising 3L out with who to target, and found that there were only 12. moreover, only 4 of those 12 are actually 2012 grads (though a few 2012 grads have 2013-14 clerkships lined up)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920225)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:37 AM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Why would it produce more? If anything that seems high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920229)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:39 AM
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class of 640 or so, usually pops out a scotus clerk a year. UVA did 17 with a class half the size, so it's like gulc is about a quarter as good at producing coa clerks this year per capita

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920235)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:23 AM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920339)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:25 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

it's just a coa clerkship. there are, what, about 600 of these positions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920341)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:28 AM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

you have six hundred warm bodies. on a good day, only 30 or so should qualify on the basis of grades (given the quality and volume of applicants all COA judges are getting ITE). if half of the people who are qualified go for it that's 15 people and 10-12 getting offers out of that isn't bad. the days when top 20% at GULC should put one "in the running" provided they had some other things going for them on their resume are long gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920347)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:31 AM
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well, top editors on the Law Journal who are below top 5% but in the top ten percent probably get looks too, and I'm not sure that just half goes for it. I'm not complaining, I'm one of the 12, but the placement does seem pretty weak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920355)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:35 AM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

that's adding maybe 2-3 people (EIC, articles, maybe one other? different journals have different positions and i don't know how yours works). anyway, at all schools there are plenty of people with high grades who don't apply to clerkships for any number of reasons. you're placing 3% into clerkships from a school that is putting what % in biglaw these days? 40%? i don't see why you think it would be that much higher. but congrats on yours. as long as you don't have a real asshole of a judge, it should be a great experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920363)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:38 AM
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2%, but point taken. I don't think the judge is an asshole, just sort of chilly and aspie. I got a handwritten rejection letter that was 50 times warmer than the official offer letter I got from the judge I'm working for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920372)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:41 AM
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oh and also, a ton of those 12 aren't '12 grads; the sykes clerk, for example, spent 3 years working at cravath/endearing himself to sykes by working for the fed soc politburo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920379)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:43 AM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

haha they can't all be winners. even if he's not the warmest guy, as long as he isn't a screamer it'll be a fun experience and a great chance to improve your writing and learn how to work under deadlines. my advice is the same for pretty much everything, but bust your ass the first 2-3 weeks and make sure whatever work product you turn in (may vary based on your judge and his cases) is fucking excellent. whatever first impression you make while working with someone is hard to un-do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920381)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:44 AM
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How's the Lawl Center's BigLaw placement these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920252)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:23 AM
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I think it's like a 40/60 proposition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920338)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:31 PM
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30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20921887)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:32 PM
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37% if you assume that the 4% clerking will do biglaw (though some become ausa's, oh the horror)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20921888)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:23 AM
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actually, 12. so if you rate this out, at UVA's class size they'd just have 6, compared to the 17 UVA actually had

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920336)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:25 AM
Author: Louis Posteur

I mean, that's not bad for a Law Center.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920343)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:28 AM
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what's sad is that Fisher (3d cir) and Gregory (4th cir) amount for a third of the spots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20920348)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:30 PM
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bumped for the gulc-bashing crowd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974709&forum_id=2#20921881)