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Moral Luck and Libertaranism (Cow Goes Moo)

This study addresses the topic of moral luck. The main topic...
slim_shady_man  06/20/12
explain the prospect raised in the last sentence
The Master  06/20/12
Imagine the following scrap of dialogue: Husband: You know,...
slim_shady_man  06/20/12
You're either 180 schtick or in the top 1% of most worthless...
Lib praising Zimbabwe's Gini coefficient  06/20/12
(MAF conturd)
" " " "  06/20/12
Libertarians affirm the right to liberty, i.e., the right to...
slim_shady_man  06/20/12
lol@your crap cut/paste abilities. Try to wrap your head aro...
jake from statefarm  06/20/12
tcr. ssm is conflating libertarianism with anarchism on one ...
fscknut  06/21/12
This is completely unintelligible.
fscknut  06/20/12
tldr but 180
Pat the Cat  06/21/12
(retard who doesn't read but just mindlessly agrees with wha...
jake from statefarm  06/21/12
(guy with a totally functional sense of humor)
,.,,..,,.,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:,  06/21/12
whatever pumo
jake from statefarm  06/21/12


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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

This study addresses the topic of moral luck. The main topics are how much luck there is and what, if anything, our moral profile amounts to. By "moral luck" I mean instances where a difference in moral profile between two or more (actual or possible) agents is due to factors beyond their control. By the expression "moral profile" I mean how the agent stacks up morally, in light of everything.

I begin with the assumption that there is something wrong about resultant moral luck qua luck--that to admit resultant moral luck is to render the agent's moral profile unsatisfactorily beyond her control. This assumption leads me to rule out the character view of moral profiles. Any control principle that cuts against resultant moral luck will cut just as strongly against any view on which character (or some set of states) constitutes the agent's moral profile.

But since compatibilism with respect to the free will and determinism grounds the freedom of an act in the character (or states) of the agent, it appears that any compatibilist view on which our free acts are the determinants of our moral profile will also be suspect. Similar comments will hold for any counterfactual view--on which both our actual acts and our counterfactual acts are what matter. If we assume determinism across worlds, any such view will entail the intolerable result that our moral profiles are indistinguishable--unless they are distinguished in ways that are already unavailable to the opponent of moral luck.

The result is that, if we deny resultant moral luck qua luck, we are left with two libertarian views--one on which our libertarian acts are what matter and one on which our libertarian actual and counterfactual behavior matter. The first view is saddled with situational moral luck. The second has a prospect of avoiding all moral luck, but only by making appeal to a deviant notion of control, on which one can control X even if one cannot change X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924518)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: The Master

explain the prospect raised in the last sentence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924528)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

Imagine the following scrap of dialogue:

Husband: You know, wife, you behaved like a real shrew when you were in labor with

our son.

Wife: Excuse me? You go through labor and see how you behave!

Husband: Ah, but you see, I’m essentially a man.

So there are no metaphysically possible circumstances in which I go through labor. Face it, your moral profile is stained in a way that mine is not. So I have at least some evidence that I am morally better than you. There are several problems with what the husband says here, aside from the fact that he is acting like a tactless prig. The idea that our sex is essential to us is dubious. The idea that it’s metaphysically impossible for a man to go through labor is suspicious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924555)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: Lib praising Zimbabwe's Gini coefficient

You're either 180 schtick or in the top 1% of most worthless shitlibs on the planet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924557)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: " " " "

(MAF conturd)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924567)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 9:47 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

Libertarians affirm the right to liberty, i.e., the right to do what one wants free from interference. Libertarians also affirm the right to private property. One objection to libertarianism is that private property relations restrict liberty. This objection appears to have the consequence that libertarianism is an incoherent position.

I understand the right to liberty as a prohibition on the

initiation of force. I argue that if that is what the right to liberty is, then the enforcement of property rights violates it. My conclusion is that libertarianism is, in a sense, impossible because conceptually unsound. In other words, my conclusion is that libertarianism is a hodgepodge of bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924579)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

lol@your crap cut/paste abilities. Try to wrap your head around the concept that liberty has boundaries necessary to making any conception of what exactly liberty means possible. It would be a ridiculous and a disingenuous strawman to say that libertarians argue liberty should be boundless and yet advocate enforcement of property rights, which include the right to exclude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20924689)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 12:01 AM
Author: fscknut

tcr. ssm is conflating libertarianism with anarchism on one side of the equation, and then wondering why the two parts are incongruous. disingenuous at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20925771)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: fscknut

This is completely unintelligible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20925757)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 12:04 AM
Author: Pat the Cat (awwwwwwww SHUCKY DUCKY! )

tldr but 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20925790)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 12:39 AM
Author: jake from statefarm

(retard who doesn't read but just mindlessly agrees with what he's told is the consensus view)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20926081)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 12:44 AM
Author: ,.,,..,,.,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:,

(guy with a totally functional sense of humor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20926114)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: jake from statefarm

whatever pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975198&forum_id=2#20926141)