House millenials support generational wealth xfer (ie Obamacare)
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:02 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Nevar forget. Obamacare is primarily just a wealth transfer from the young and healthy to those aged 50-65. There is basically nothing else to it.
EDIT:
For the idiots who still don't know what Obamacare is, it mandates that the premiums of the young and healthy cannot cost too much less than olds and sicks. The actuarial risk-based cost of insurance for a young health person is cheap. For example I had insurance for 38 dollars a month that covered everything 100% after a somewhat high deductible. This is now outlawed. You will be paying probably over $6k a year right out of your own pocket, just so that olds can pay less.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20968836) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:10 PM Author: fscknut
... are you retarded? it pretty much guarantees free healthcare for the young and healthy and reduces aid to the aged.
Before obamacare: no ins for students/youngs, lots of medicare for olds, and a political culture that says HEY MEDICARE PART D!!!!!
After obamacare: guaranteed insurance until 26 unless your parents are uberpoor, some reduction in medicare benefits for olds, and a political culture that's finally discussing not using extreme measures to extend life only a couple days.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20968873) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:11 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
just lol, it makes you pay for insurance you don't need and won't use so that the extra $$$ in the system goes to olds, that was the EXPRESS FUCKING POINT
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20968880) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:44 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Right, and not just the fair price of that extra insurance but it actually fixes the price at a minimum of 1/3 of olds.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969119) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:13 PM Author: .,,..,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:, (guy with Ryan Gosling haircut)
yeah, you're pretty much discussing the political environment and not the content of the actual law. you're also making the assumption that most youngs need healthcare, which they don't. that's why Obamacare is SPS for youngs. It forces us to buy overpriced healthcare to subsidize shitboomers as they age.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20968887) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:32 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
EVERYONE FUCKING GETS HEALTHCARE, you dick. Health insurance is not fucking health care.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969020) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 2:57 PM Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.
Yes, everyone should be entitled to $50,000 in free healthcare subsidies every year for life, except for young males. I've forgotten how libs think.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984428) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 2:57 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984436) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 3:02 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
The young males are paying more into the system, fucktard. 6 times their actuarial cost or more. So that the others can pay less.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984466) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 3:24 PM Author: jake from statefarm
so a ponzi scheme (and one where the current olds never had to work their way up), because that worked so well with social security.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984585)
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:44 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
20-35 is subsidizing 45-65. Medicare doesn't affect that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969124) |
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Date: June 30th, 2012 10:37 PM Author: ..,.,...;;..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..,.,.
you can stay on parent's HC until 26 you tard.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20993454) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:33 PM Author: fscknut
"you're also making the assumption that most youngs need healthcare, which they don't."
I'm young and in incredible shape. I need regular healthcare.
Are you a nullo?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969029) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:35 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
Do you need a $3000 annual policy that covers a thousand things that are extraordinarily unlikely for you to have because it's baked into the human body that you won't get them until you're 50?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969039) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:38 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
Yes massa' Boomah, I'sa just gwunna pay m' fine like a good millenniul, massa' Boomah
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969071) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:47 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
Obviously at least 10 years younger than you, Boomer scum.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969145) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 10:42 PM Author: .,,..,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.,:, (guy with Ryan Gosling haircut)
You made zero points which were accurate.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20971745) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:35 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
WTF? Is it opposite day or are you insane?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969043) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:40 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Basically take the opposite of everything you said. That's substantive.
The actuarial value of your health insurance would be less than 1k per year as a young healthy person. Obamacare says your insurance can't cost too much less than olds and sicks. So now you have to pay 6k instead.
There was no insurance for students and youngs before? How stupid are you? I had a plan for 38 dollars a month as a young student. That will now be outlawed by Obamacare.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969093) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:52 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
PWNED
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969188) |

Date: June 27th, 2012 3:15 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
"The CBO has estimated that the average premium for a single insurance policy in the non-group market would be roughly $5,800 in -- in 2016. Respondents -- the economists have supported -- the Respondents estimate that a young, healthy individual targeted by the mandate on average consumes about $854 in health services each year. So the mandate is forcing these people to provide a huge subsidy to the insurance companies for other purposes that the act wishes to serve, but isn't -- if those figures are right, isn't it the case that what this mandate is really doing is not requiring the people who are subject to it to pay for the services that they are going to consume? It is requiring them to subsidize services that will be received by somebody else."
JUSTICE GINSBURG: "If you're going to have insurance, that's how insurance works."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20968909) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:37 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Holy fucking shit @ Ginsburg. That is NOT how insurance works. The guy with DUI driving a Lambo doesn't pay the same amount as the safe driver in a Taurus. The guy living in a flood plane, etc.
Do liberals seriously just think that "insurance" means "socialism" ? Amazing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969064) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:40 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
Yes, you pay differently, but it's pretty fucking clear that if you're a good driver and never need your insurance, you're subsidizing the dangerous elderly/kid/drunk drivers. If you live in a flood plain, the only way to make your insurance affordable is with a small redistributive subsidy from the people in safety. Part of it is allocation of risk, but there's also a distribution element. It's like a postage stamp: it costs a fuckload to ship to rural Montana rather than MFH, but we have lots of flat rates to allow for an easy system.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969095) |
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Date: June 27th, 2012 3:47 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
No, you're completely wrong. The only thing that introduces redistribution into insurance is the regulations that are designed to do so in a backdoor way. An insurance company would define risk categories as narrowly as it possibly could dream up, and price premiums appropriately. Every little factoid that might be meaningful could affect your pricing. Insurance is about RISK spreading. You are talking about WEALTH spreading, which is any deviation from what the default would be to evening out premiums so that things are more "fair."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969146) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 8:52 AM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Well, that has nothing to do with the statements she was responding to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20974150) |

Date: June 27th, 2012 3:58 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20969235) |

Date: June 27th, 2012 9:39 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20971288) |

Date: June 27th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: ear delicious
I'm relatively young and healthy, self employed.
Rate my plan if obamacare is upheld:
Don't buy insurance.
Don't pay the penalty (gov't has no way to enforce it)
If I ever get cancer or a serious injury or something like that, purchase insurance on the way to the hospital (insurers can't deny it based on preexisting condition)
Obama's Merica!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20971535) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 3:13 PM Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.
(retard)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984529) |

Date: June 28th, 2012 9:18 AM Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::.,...,:,.,.:...:.,,.::,
fscknut ruthlessly pwned itt
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20974223) |

Date: June 28th, 2012 10:02 AM Author: ..,.,...;;..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..,.,.
stay on rents' healthcare under 26?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20974395) |

Date: June 28th, 2012 2:31 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20976943) |

Date: June 29th, 2012 2:54 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984413) |

Date: June 29th, 2012 3:21 PM Author: .,..;..,;..;,..,.;.,...,.,.;,.,;.,,..,;.,.
The irony is that college libtards love to make fun of dumb rednecks for unwittingly voting against their economic interests. Pot calling the kettle black, much?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984571) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 3:26 PM Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20984600) |
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Date: June 30th, 2012 6:36 PM Author: '' '' " "
"Rather than workable solutions, my party is offering low taxes for the currently rich and high spending for the currently old, to be followed by who-knows-what and who-the-hell-cares. This isn’t conservatism; it’s a going-out-of-business sale for the baby-boom generation."
- David Frum
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20992057)
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Date: June 30th, 2012 10:37 PM Author: ..,.,...;;..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..,.,.
you can stay on parents plan until 26 you fucking tards. lol @ this lizard flame.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20993457) |
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Date: June 30th, 2012 10:59 PM Author: Idris Elba (John Meyer running thru the halls of his high school . . .)
You dumb shit.
My mother worked for the Fed Gov't so her insurance plan allowed me to stay on until I was 24.
GUESS WHAT?
My premium JUMPED THE FUCK UP when I hit 21 to the point that my mother couldn't afford to keep me on her policy.
I had to go get my own shit.
Now please tell me, under ObamaCare how fucking much will it cost to keep a grown-fucking-adult on their parents' policy until they are 26?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#20993576) |
Date: July 2nd, 2012 10:34 AM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1980633&forum_id=2#21001920) |
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