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Longer Hours: Cravath Corp, S&C M&A or Weil BK

Longest* rather
.,,,......,.,..  07/14/12
Cravath has the sweatshop rep. M&A always ends up being ...
.,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::  07/14/12
deadlines aren't as crazy in BK? it's basically lit on stero...
,,,...,,......,,....  07/14/12
IME judges let everything get pushed around and there are us...
.,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::  07/14/12
BK bros I know average 2700 hours, with endpoints of the spe...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
sounds about right. more dickhead partners on average too, f...
.,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::  07/14/12
Yeah. I understand why some of my friends at K&E do it b...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
I knew someone who did a pretty prestigious BK clerkship the...
.,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::  07/14/12
if during a deal, S&C
Manure Ginobili  07/14/12
bk has the best hours
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,  07/14/12
this is not tcr.
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
all 3 choices in OP have long hours, bk is steadiest and hen...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,  07/14/12
See post above, the BK bros I know average 2700 and there ar...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
What are the benefits of subjecting yourself to this group t...
.,,,......,.,..  07/14/12
I'm not sure, as the exit options are pretty shitty. I under...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
Seriously. What does a Weil 4th year have the chance to exit...
.,,,......,.,..  07/14/12
Normally? Partnership track at a lesser shop. Once in a blue...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
Partnership track at a lower firm is pretty solid. Isn't P...
.,,,......,.,..  07/14/12
Very rare, as I said. The ONE guy I personally know who did ...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
Yeah I guess the best you could really hope for is trying to...
.,,,......,.,..  07/14/12
yeah, I dunno why you'd do Weil or K&E BK unless it's yo...
..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.  07/14/12
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Better off doing something ...
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.,,,......,.,..  07/15/12
I imagine that if you actually know what you're doing with B...
.,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::  07/14/12
2700 is not bad at all if spread consistently across the yea...
HLS_Grad  07/15/12
man i've given up on trying to figure out which firms have t...
.,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  07/14/12
*works way longer hours than other groups* *has worst exit ...
,..,.,.,,,,...,  07/15/12
distressed debt fund.
Iknownothing  11/15/12
What is the best way to get anally raped? With an ice pick, ...
But where will I get $1bb? (Guys at HBS...)  07/15/12
Ice pick.
.,..,..,...,...,....,;;::::..,,,,,  07/15/12
Cravath, not close on the reg
fIame (retired)  11/15/12
I would strongly consider killself before I worked at any of...
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ti,oc,tcr.
Metta World Peace  11/15/12


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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:16 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

Longest* rather

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089271)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: .,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::

Cravath has the sweatshop rep. M&A always ends up being inconsistent.

The major Chapter 11 group people I know seem to work more than anyone else. Deadlines aren't as crazy but the sheer volume of shit to do is fucking insane. Year after year, a lot of the top ten hourly billable partners in NYC are Chp. 11 sharks at Milbank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089301)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:21 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

deadlines aren't as crazy in BK? it's basically lit on steroids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089318)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: .,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::

IME judges let everything get pushed around and there are usually so many parties involved that nothing comes in on time. I'm not saying you don't need to file shit when you need to file it, but it seems more like a steady avalanche of shit in and out instead of everyone sitting around at 4:00am trying to get shit ready for a closing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089337)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

BK bros I know average 2700 hours, with endpoints of the spectrum being 2400 and 3100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089446)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: .,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::

sounds about right. more dickhead partners on average too, from what i can tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089479)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

Yeah. I understand why some of my friends at K&E do it because they get bonused accordingly, but my two bros who went to Weil are just getting trounced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089494)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: .,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::

I knew someone who did a pretty prestigious BK clerkship then decided he wanted corp or lit or anything else based on his impression of the workload and what he was hearing from other people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089589)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Manure Ginobili

if during a deal, S&C

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089375)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

bk has the best hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089386)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

this is not tcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089398)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

all 3 choices in OP have long hours, bk is steadiest and hence best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089450)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

See post above, the BK bros I know average 2700 and there are a few substantially above that. It's a steady shitstorm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089480)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

What are the benefits of subjecting yourself to this group then? 2800 on the reg is nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089488)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

I'm not sure, as the exit options are pretty shitty. I understand K&E BK bros being okay with it bc they're getting paid, but Weil? got damn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089510)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

Seriously. What does a Weil 4th year have the chance to exit into?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089532)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:45 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

Normally? Partnership track at a lesser shop. Once in a blue moon? Vulture funds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089546)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:47 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

Partnership track at a lower firm is pretty solid. Isn't PPP in the lower V100 still like. 600-800k? Im guessing not too many in house positions for bankruptcy specialists. Lol. Just lol at a lawyer moving straight to a hedge fund though. They require top IB experience I thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089569)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:49 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

Very rare, as I said. The ONE guy I personally know who did it worked at Houlihan before going back to LS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089582)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:51 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

Yeah I guess the best you could really hope for is trying to move into of counsel on maybe, maybe partnership at a V100. Bar dat botique ibd pre ls exp like ur bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089604)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:54 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.

yeah, I dunno why you'd do Weil or K&E BK unless it's your only way to get your foot in the door at a V10 or you want to cop those K&E bonuses for a few years and then bounce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089634)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: .,,,......,.,..

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Better off doing something more transferable like M&A or cap markets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089671)



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Date: July 15th, 2012 12:16 AM
Author: .,,,......,.,..



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089811)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:52 PM
Author: .,..,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,.,,.,.:.,:.,:.::

I imagine that if you actually know what you're doing with BK, you'll be pretty valuable to shit firms and regional midlaw. It's specialization that carries over and some of those dudes develop good practices doing turnaround stuff and advising companies, not just battling through BKs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089609)



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Date: July 15th, 2012 6:58 AM
Author: HLS_Grad

2700 is not bad at all if spread consistently across the year; this is basically 54 hours/week over 50 weeks. Good Top M&A lawyers also average around 2700, but they have 90 hours/week when on multiple deals and 20 hours/week (when they still have to sit in the office all day when not billing time).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091078)



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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:54 PM
Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

man i've given up on trying to figure out which firms have the best hours. seems to totally depend on the partner you're working for. seems like every firm, sweatshops included, has junior associates billing anywhere from below 1800 to 2400+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089632)



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Date: July 15th, 2012 6:49 AM
Author: ,..,.,.,,,,...,

*works way longer hours than other groups*

*has worst exit opps*l

*is at Weil/K E bk*

Is there any financial upside at att to being in one of these bankruptcy groups? Seems like terrible hours for terrible exit opportunities. At least v10 corporate can get in house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091074)



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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:51 PM
Author: Iknownothing

distressed debt fund.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054015)



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Date: July 15th, 2012 11:03 AM
Author: But where will I get $1bb? (Guys at HBS...)

What is the best way to get anally raped? With an ice pick, a knife or a shard of glass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091257)



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Date: July 15th, 2012 11:35 AM
Author: .,..,..,...,...,....,;;::::..,,,,,

Ice pick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091390)



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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: fIame (retired)

Cravath, not close on the reg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054046)



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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:58 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

I would strongly consider killself before I worked at any of those places

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054073)



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Date: November 15th, 2012 11:07 PM
Author: Metta World Peace

ti,oc,tcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054121)