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Is it CR to write "This issue here is . . . " for ...
....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,  07/21/12
i have the same Q, breh. I write "The issue is ...&quo...
iamdisappoint  07/21/12
yeah kaplan tells us to. but then they dont even have it on...
....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,  07/21/12
yeah brother. i hope so too. where are you taking it?
iamdisappoint  07/21/12
No, that is stupid. Just use heading. If the issue is willfu...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,..,,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.  07/21/12
you shouldn't have broader more sentence-like headings? Just...
.........:;;;:...:.:.::;;;........................  07/21/12
Bar review classes give you a failsafe retard level system f...
clean | cut | cock  07/21/12
How much do they reward clean, competent writing? substanti...
....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,  07/21/12
They reward it a lot. Part of what you're trying to do is no...
clean | cut | cock  07/21/12
lulz
.....;;;.;;.;;;;.......;;.;;..  07/27/12
you could but i don't think you have to and it sounds dumb ...
'''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.  07/21/12
Tip - just do it for consistency. The grader will not care ...
calrose rice pudding pop  07/21/12
Your bar review sounds SPS. The heading is the issue.
.,.,....,.,.,.,:,,:,....,:::,....,,:,.,.:..,:.::,.  07/21/12
Kaplan PMBR. I should have COPPED DAT THEMIS.
....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,  07/21/12
Barbri says the same.
....................;.;.;...,.  07/21/12
Nothing wrong with "The first issue is whether..."...
.,.,....,.,.,.,:,.,:,...,:::,,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,.  07/21/12
planned on doing this but took too much time to right a good...
....................;.;.;...,.  07/27/12
use headings..
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,  07/27/12
did you use headings and then just go into the rule?
....................;.;.;...,.  07/27/12
yes
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,  07/27/12
thats great to hear. i changed it after the 1st essay becaus...
....................;.;.;...,.  07/27/12
what about PTB? how did u format it
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,  07/27/12
didn't take California.
....................;.;.;...,.  07/27/12
LOL i did...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,  07/27/12
feel like I prob failed the bar. My headings didn't really s...
....................;.;.;...,.  07/27/12


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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:07 AM
Author: ....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,

Is it CR to write "This issue here is . . . " for every issue?

Bar review class told us to do it. None of the essays on baressays.com do it, even the high scoring ones (although they're all essays from people who fail, so...).

whats the general consensus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136846)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:09 AM
Author: iamdisappoint

i have the same Q, breh. I write "The issue is ..." every once in a while, but not for every block.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136865)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:13 AM
Author: ....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,

yeah kaplan tells us to. but then they dont even have it on their model answers.

iamdisappoint, i hope we pass next week brother. i hope we are just being paranoid, aspie xo pussies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136894)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 3:42 AM
Author: iamdisappoint

yeah brother. i hope so too. where are you taking it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21137231)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,..,,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.

No, that is stupid. Just use heading. If the issue is willfulness, just have an underlined heading called "Intent," and then jump into "The elements of intent are . . . "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136881)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:12 AM
Author: .........:;;;:...:.:.::;;;........................

you shouldn't have broader more sentence-like headings? Just one word?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136890)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:12 AM
Author: clean | cut | cock

Bar review classes give you a failsafe retard level system for people who just can't figure out how to structure an answer. If you can clearly and concisely communicate the point to the grader, you don't need to follow their "system." They reward clean, competent writing, not following the bar review course method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136886)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:15 AM
Author: ....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,

How much do they reward clean, competent writing? substantively, all the fucking essays from 55s to 70s look similar on baressays.com; havent really looked into quality of writing though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136907)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:18 AM
Author: clean | cut | cock

They reward it a lot. Part of what you're trying to do is not alert the bored, tired bar grader that you're somehow dumber than the last guy. Make yourself easy to follow, hit the blackletter as much as you can, but don't go apeshit with structuring and mechanically repeating whatever structure the course suggested. There are retards who will follow the course advice to a T and still write shit essays that read like legal madlibs. You probably know how to clearly and concisely express yourself after three years of law school, so just do that and don't worry about the bar course. Like I said, they're providing a parachute for the bottom quarter Chapman law grad who still thinks "alot" is a word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21136925)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:12 AM
Author: .....;;;.;;.;;;;.......;;.;;..

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187634)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 3:13 AM
Author: '''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.

you could but i don't think you have to and it sounds dumb

just do heading/sub-heading, rule statement, and then application. your application should just be: "Here, ...."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21137146)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 3:51 AM
Author: calrose rice pudding pop

Tip - just do it for consistency. The grader will not care or pay attention if you have it in there, but if the essay looks sloppy, inconsistent or hard to follow you will get ding-febbared

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21137260)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,....,.,.,.,:,,:,....,:::,....,,:,.,.:..,:.::,.

Your bar review sounds SPS. The heading is the issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21139423)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:16 PM
Author: ....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,.,

Kaplan PMBR. I should have COPPED DAT THEMIS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21139485)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:18 PM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

Barbri says the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21139502)



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Date: July 21st, 2012 2:43 PM
Author: .,.,....,.,.,.,:,.,:,...,:::,,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,.

Nothing wrong with "The first issue is whether...", etc. But if you're using headings for every issue, which seems excessive to me, there's no need to repeat yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21139656)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 12:38 AM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

planned on doing this but took too much time to right a good issue statement. Just did headings. Hope Barbri was wrong about this...similar to how they were wrong about the MBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187386)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 12:43 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,

use headings..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187450)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 12:45 AM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

did you use headings and then just go into the rule?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187471)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:15 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,

yes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187658)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:22 AM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

thats great to hear. i changed it after the 1st essay because I was running out of time. My Heading weren't that special though. Doubt I get dinged for overbroad headings tho. The wait is gonna be the worst.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187678)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:23 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,

what about PTB? how did u format it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187680)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:24 AM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

didn't take California.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187683)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 1:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,

LOL i did...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21187686)



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Date: July 27th, 2012 7:53 AM
Author: ....................;.;.;...,.

feel like I prob failed the bar. My headings didn't really state the issues properly. Time Pressure got to me and I prob lost an easy .5 point on every issue I spotted.

Negligence vs. Guy

P will likely bring a negligence claim. <Rule>

Procedural Due Process Violation

<Rule>

These won't get it done. Guess I'll be back at it in Feb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2000385&forum_id=2#21188351)