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JEWS AGAINST ZIONISM: THE AMERICAN COUNCIL FOR JUDAISM, 1942-194

In 1942 a number of dissident Reform rabbis founded the Amer...
mauve lodge
  09/25/12
You already lost this one. End the Jewish state is a lost ca...
gay slippery ladyboy
  09/25/12
just throwing out historical fact that zionists and jews are...
mauve lodge
  09/25/12
That's true, but zionism isn't anything extreme these days. ...
gay slippery ladyboy
  09/25/12
Zionists that support settlements posts on West Bank land do...
mauve lodge
  09/25/12
I didn't say every zionist supports a two-state solution. I ...
gay slippery ladyboy
  09/25/12
Why not a one state solution? Seriously, isnt it a better op...
mauve lodge
  09/25/12
Of course it's not. A one-state solution is permanent warfar...
gay slippery ladyboy
  09/25/12
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mauve lodge
  09/25/12


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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:29 AM
Author: mauve lodge

In 1942 a number of dissident Reform rabbis founded the American Council for Judaism (ACJ), the first and only Jewish organization ever created to fight against Zionism and the establishment of a Jewish state. Although initially representing religious opposition to political Zionism, the ACJ was rapidly transformed into an essentially secular anti-Zionist pressure group after Lessing J. Rosenwald assumed its presidency in April 1943. Under Rosenwald's leadership and the guidance of Rabbi Elmer Berger, the ACJ's executive director, it became the most formidable Jewish opponent of the Zionist movement in the United States in the 1940s. The organization's membership, consisting mostly of Reform Jews of German descent, peaked at about 14,000 in 1948.

The ACJ's principles, based on the tenets of nineteenth century Reform Judaism (classical Reform), emphasized the purely religious nature of Judaism and unequivocally rejected Jewish nationalism. Establishment of a Jewish state was repudiated as regressive, undemocratic, and contrary to Jewish interests. For the ACJ Zionism represented a philosophy of despair, a retreat from emancipation, loss of faith in emancipation, and, above all, self-segregation. Instead of a Jewish state, the ACJ supported free Jewish immigration and equal rights for Jews throughout the world. For Palestine, specifically, it advocated establishment of a democratic state wherein all citizens, regardless of their religion, would enjoy equal political rights.

From 1943 to 1948 the ACJ fought fiercely against the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Since by 1943 the majority of American Jews rallied behind the Zionist program, the ACJ was unable to make any significant inroads into the Jewish community. While largely isolated among Jews, it collaborated closely with the State Department, the major focus of opposition to Zionism within the American government.

The main reason for Zionist success was the Holocaust. The great Jewish catastrophe infused life into Zionism and created the political atmosphere that made the birth of Israel possible. It discredited the facile optimism and the liberal assumptions of the anti-Zionists and doomed the ACJ to failure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654044)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:30 AM
Author: gay slippery ladyboy

You already lost this one. End the Jewish state is a lost cause. Best case for the Palestinians is an independent state next to Israel with generously drawn borders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654047)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:35 AM
Author: mauve lodge

just throwing out historical fact that zionists and jews are not the same, and some jews were vehemently opposed to creation of israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654069)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:37 AM
Author: gay slippery ladyboy

That's true, but zionism isn't anything extreme these days. If you support a two-state solution, you're a zionist. Why live in the past?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654075)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:40 AM
Author: mauve lodge

Zionists that support settlements posts on West Bank land dont support two state solution bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654087)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:41 AM
Author: gay slippery ladyboy

I didn't say every zionist supports a two-state solution. I said every person who supports a two-state solution is a zionist.

You're calling settlers something pretty innocuous (zionists) that inadequately describes how extreme they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654094)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:42 AM
Author: mauve lodge

Why not a one state solution? Seriously, isnt it a better option?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654097)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 1:43 AM
Author: gay slippery ladyboy

Of course it's not. A one-state solution is permanent warfare.

Plus the only remotely feasible one-state option is something similar to the status quo, with near total Israeli dominance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21654103)



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Date: September 25th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: mauve lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2061522&forum_id=2#21656146)