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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
racy bearded really tough guy sandwich
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
Provocative lavender crackhouse
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Chest-beating Diverse Site Immigrant
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
lascivious orchestra pit codepig
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
racy bearded really tough guy sandwich
  03/26/13
180
Sepia french home
  04/04/14
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Buck-toothed Mauve Faggotry Piazza
  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
Brass nibblets
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
carnelian disrespectful box office legal warrant
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
racy bearded really tough guy sandwich
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
180 trump supporter
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
appetizing territorial ceo hospital
  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
Soul-stirring copper mental disorder
  04/04/14
yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unit...
Unholy wonderful chapel puppy
  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
racy bearded really tough guy sandwich
  03/24/13
...
Pea-brained volcanic crater clown
  03/24/13
lol what
Razzle-dazzle white rehab
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
galvanic mad cow disease
  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
racy bearded really tough guy sandwich
  03/26/13
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Massive stage coffee pot
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
beady-eyed indian lodge
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
Big menage
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
red odious reading party
  04/30/13
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red odious reading party
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
Rambunctious Razzmatazz Native Rigpig
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
Cyan passionate trailer park
  04/04/14
180
khaki electric idea he suggested newt
  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
Wine erotic elastic band field
  03/26/13
bump
Provocative lavender crackhouse
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
scarlet church
  04/13/13
...
Sepia french home
  04/04/14
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
Provocative lavender crackhouse
  05/05/13
easily
black institution stain
  05/05/13
bump
Provocative lavender crackhouse
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
adulterous talking regret
  06/29/13
...
Provocative lavender crackhouse
  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
impertinent turdskin plaza
  07/03/13
killself
hot arousing whorehouse ladyboy
  07/03/13
go away peter
Bright step-uncle's house milk
  07/03/13
go away peter
Bright step-uncle's house milk
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
impressive stag film mad-dog skullcap
  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
Massive stage coffee pot
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
impressive stag film mad-dog skullcap
  07/04/13
180
sickened principal's office
  12/26/13
180
charcoal locale
  03/28/14
lana del rey hth
avocado gaped corner
  03/28/14
Joanna Newsom or gtfo
Adventurous Crystalline Lay Kitty
  04/04/14
...
charcoal locale
  04/04/14
nice poast, man
magenta irradiated senate
  04/04/14
180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
Adventurous Crystalline Lay Kitty
  04/04/14
...
flickering vigorous den famous landscape painting
  04/04/14
op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship
Cyan passionate trailer park
  04/04/14
...
frisky clear skinny woman
  04/04/14
...
walnut vibrant gunner
  09/12/15
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violet bawdyhouse
  10/01/15
Fuck me I love threads like these.
mahogany seedy hunting ground address
  10/01/15
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mischievous ape giraffe
  01/10/16
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Henna sadistic jew idiot
  05/27/16
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Fishy spectacular haunted graveyard
  05/27/16
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Provocative lavender crackhouse
  11/14/16
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Bateful metal lodge twinkling uncleanness
  11/14/16
Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel...
Brilliant greedy mediation place of business
  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
Trip dysfunction sneaky criminal
  11/15/16
...
Trip dysfunction sneaky criminal
  08/10/17
I could read these all day everyday
self-absorbed point
  11/15/16
...
cerise property
  08/10/17
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Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National
  08/25/17
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mustard digit ratio
  08/25/17
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Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National
  11/03/19
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walnut vibrant gunner
  04/18/20
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Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National
  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
Chocolate Friendly Grandma
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: racy bearded really tough guy sandwich

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Chest-beating Diverse Site Immigrant

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: lascivious orchestra pit codepig

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: racy bearded really tough guy sandwich

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Sepia french home

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Buck-toothed Mauve Faggotry Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913521)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: Brass nibblets

Who did she break up with this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: carnelian disrespectful box office legal warrant

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: racy bearded really tough guy sandwich

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: 180 trump supporter

What's the problem then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: appetizing territorial ceo hospital

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: Soul-stirring copper mental disorder

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: Unholy wonderful chapel puppy

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: racy bearded really tough guy sandwich

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: Pea-brained volcanic crater clown



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle white rehab

lol what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: galvanic mad cow disease

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: racy bearded really tough guy sandwich

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: Massive stage coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543735)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: beady-eyed indian lodge

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: Big menage

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: red odious reading party

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: red odious reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879053)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Rambunctious Razzmatazz Native Rigpig

I see now that you are Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: Cyan passionate trailer park

bad read imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: khaki electric idea he suggested newt

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882175)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: Wine erotic elastic band field

one hundred and eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882306)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: scarlet church

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: Sepia french home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322979)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: black institution stain

easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137813)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503332)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: adulterous talking regret

much deserved 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528396)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: impertinent turdskin plaza

have a good life, millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: hot arousing whorehouse ladyboy

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528471)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Bright step-uncle's house milk

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541761)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Bright step-uncle's house milk

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541762)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: impressive stag film mad-dog skullcap

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: Massive stage coffee pot

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: impressive stag film mad-dog skullcap

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: sickened principal's office

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#24716751)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: charcoal locale

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277665)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: avocado gaped corner

lana del rey hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: Adventurous Crystalline Lay Kitty

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: charcoal locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321456)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: magenta irradiated senate

nice poast, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: Adventurous Crystalline Lay Kitty

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: flickering vigorous den famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322449)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: Cyan passionate trailer park

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: frisky clear skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25323175)



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Date: September 12th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: walnut vibrant gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28741244)



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Date: October 1st, 2015 5:28 AM
Author: violet bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874107)



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: mahogany seedy hunting ground address

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: mischievous ape giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#29567339)



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:02 AM
Author: Henna sadistic jew idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#30568854)



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:06 AM
Author: Fishy spectacular haunted graveyard



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Provocative lavender crackhouse



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:56 PM
Author: Bateful metal lodge twinkling uncleanness



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Brilliant greedy mediation place of business

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: Trip dysfunction sneaky criminal

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Trip dysfunction sneaky criminal



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: self-absorbed point

I could read these all day everyday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913602)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: cerise property



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: mustard digit ratio



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Date: November 3rd, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National



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Date: April 18th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: walnut vibrant gunner



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: Alcoholic Liquid Oxygen National



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: Chocolate Friendly Grandma

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)