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About to get stealthed- 5th yr NYC v25

WTF to do bros? Partner mentor called me in today (my annual...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
(Quinn associate)
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
Not Quinn, but close
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Boies?
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
not lit / corp
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
(weil associate)
ruby motley boistinker station
  07/31/13
Race?
provocative bisexual telephone
  07/31/13
out the firm
supple rehab therapy
  07/30/13
will not do it until I figure out wtf to do with my life
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
you should've been planning for this for the last 2 years ...
Soul-stirring Corn Cake Set
  07/30/13
sure I have had this in the back of my mind and emailed a ha...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
lol they let you stay on four+ years, probably doing shitty ...
Shivering Community Account
  07/30/13
fair enough. go to another firm or fucking quit?
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
I guess. well, anyways, don't become unemployed bc then the ...
Shivering Community Account
  07/30/13
Honestly advice here Step 1: Go into the review tomorrow...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
Thank you for the advice bro. I was going to ask for until t...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Tactfully yes. Don't get railroaded for sure. It's the onl...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
I plan on just stating that I disagree with their assessment...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Exactly the smart play. I would say that this comes as a sh...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
how the fuck do you cashout vacation when you aren't leaving...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Some firms let you cash out your vacation and maybe sick day...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
wish that was the case
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Explain the protip QP. Don't you get these anyway after you ...
French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point
  07/30/13
Depends on the state law. In some states employers can fuck...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/31/13
Explain how asking for four would go Edit: this is good ...
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
see above poast
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
Ty
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
The only way the firm gives you more than 3 is if they are w...
haunting step-uncle's house
  07/31/13
Yes, very doubtful they will negotiate but you'll regret not...
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
Step 4: Set up LLC/PLLC/whatever in case you need to convinc...
Marvelous Ruddy Crotch University
  07/30/13
CR. They are always disingenuous about performance. When it'...
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
debt? hours?
Cream tanning salon
  07/30/13
no debt, decent savings, but wife and kids
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
how many hours were you billing? why are they letting you go...
Cream tanning salon
  07/30/13
on target for about 21-2200 this year. bit lower than previo...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
why doesn't she like you?
Brindle heady rigpig
  07/30/13
She fucked something up when she came over and tried to thro...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Can you reveal the 3rd letter of her first name?
Avocado corner
  07/30/13
...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
nevermind, I thought I knew her. must be a different awful ...
Avocado corner
  07/30/13
JFC for being stealthed at 21-2200 hrs regardless of persona...
slimy site goal in life
  07/31/13
I know. BS but nothing to do
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324764&mc=9...
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
thanks bro, but ATL? naah
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Yeah. The timing just worked out. Seriously, good luck ma...
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
are those worthwhile?
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
No personal experience, but I expect so.
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
Hey mang, if you are up to it, I'm sure it would be apprecia...
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
of course. I just got my first response email from a recruit...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
Just a heads up, recruiters are great for BIGLAW positions b...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
TY for the tip. What websites would you suggest for dat inho...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
www.goinhouse.com ACC website simplyhired.com linkedin ...
Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter
  07/30/13
thank you friend
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/30/13
i would go a step further and say that if a recruiter is off...
henna box office
  07/30/13
CP. Also, be careful with recruiters. Some will just spam yo...
Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor
  07/31/13
My GF just had an interview with a V50 and he said they excl...
multi-colored locus
  07/31/13
Recruiters are also good when you are working with a 3-month...
haunting step-uncle's house
  07/31/13
Many thanks.
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/30/13
I hope you will continue to update ITT, friend
French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point
  07/30/13
If you're at DPW, well, a friend of mine is going through th...
Unhinged Pervert Police Squad
  07/30/13
credited, they are shitcanning people
Fragrant drab meetinghouse
  07/31/13
but they are lateral hiring in lit as we speak. explain.
Big Cyan Native Newt
  07/31/13
thats natural. this is just part of the biglaw cycle. a 5th ...
Learning disabled aqua theater dog poop
  07/31/13
Shouldn't years 4-6 be more valuable as your rate is higher,...
Thriller Church Mediation
  07/31/13
the rate is higher so there is more pressure to justify your...
Learning disabled aqua theater dog poop
  07/31/13
That blows.
Thriller Church Mediation
  07/31/13
...
Unhinged Pervert Police Squad
  07/30/13
How much money did you save and how much debt did you pay of...
Bearded space
  07/31/13
Small debt accrued and paid 50k Outside of retirement, I ha...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
damn how did you save $250K with a wife and kids after only ...
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Wife worked until kid #2 came and we live very fucking tight...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
could you lay out your monthly budget/expenses
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Aside from healthcare, I spend approx. 4k on housing and 3k ...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
$4K? Do you have a mortgage?
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Y
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
y or why? why - just curious. 3k for other expenses seems ...
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Spend no money / eat at home
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
Well review / firing in 15. Wish me luck bros
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
GL. In the end things will work out, it just may take some ...
Burgundy autistic hall sneaky criminal
  07/31/13
GL
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Best of luck brother. Also, feel free to leave right after y...
Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor
  07/31/13
I wouldn't set foot in the office for 90 days.
haunting step-uncle's house
  07/31/13
I may do it if the firm were pulling strings to help me get ...
Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor
  07/31/13
Lol @ going to work to trick your spouse, you gotta be fucki...
haunting step-uncle's house
  07/31/13
Some people have family issues brother. I can't find the ori...
Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor
  07/31/13
one partner has offered to help me out, so I will keep doing...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  08/01/13
Been there, bro. Good luck. The advice in this thread is a...
Lake slippery address
  07/31/13
How'd it go down, bro? Share with us before you hit the bot...
haunting step-uncle's house
  07/31/13
...
Bonkers Sexy Circlehead
  07/31/13
Likeable characters, strong story arc, cliff-hanger. Sol...
High-end Elastic Band Preventive Strike
  07/31/13
Nothing unbelievable about it though. Happens all the time. ...
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
That's why it worked. You idiots should take note.
High-end Elastic Band Preventive Strike
  07/31/13
Cool man, I'll make a flame thread that I took a dump just n...
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
lol
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
he saved $250k
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
Hm, well he only had 50k debt and still has some. So not too...
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
And wife worked for 3+ yrs
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
...
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
i want an update on this sikkk flaym
Peach casino organic girlfriend
  07/31/13
Wish it was flame bro it's my life
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
bbbbbump
Violet startled incel athletic conference
  07/31/13
...
Razzle-dazzle blue stain dingle berry
  07/31/13
Hey man, you don't have to answer to the firm anymore, but y...
French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point
  07/31/13
Well it looks like 4 months
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
Tell us more
Turquoise national
  07/31/13
NO surprises. They started in on my performance / I cut them...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
They offered 3, I said that was absurd given that its August...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
Lol FLAME thanks for playing
Turquoise national
  07/31/13
Bro, I wish this was flame. This is my fucking life
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
take a pic of something in your office
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
?
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
?
hairraiser naked abode cumskin
  07/31/13
Wow not bad man. Congrats
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
I feel ok Edit: but I am pretty bummed out
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
Just a typical, predictable thing man.
Frum Menage
  07/31/13
Has to happen once I suppose
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  07/31/13
What did you do with the rest of the day.
French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point
  07/31/13
got drinks with a friend, came back, spammed resume to recru...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  08/01/13
sorry bro
exciting zombie-like ladyboy
  07/31/13
to op bro (if not flame): really sorry to hear it. it suck...
Razzmatazz weed whacker hominid
  07/31/13
(John Quinn)
Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor
  08/01/13
so the other assocs who are getting shitcanned along with me...
Jet racy scourge upon the earth range
  08/01/13
how is allen and overy
cracking insane location mental disorder
  08/01/13
*was
Stimulating lemon becky wagecucks
  08/01/13


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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:00 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

WTF to do bros? Partner mentor called me in today (my annual review is tomorrow) and gave me the headsup. World is shattering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752031)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:02 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

(Quinn associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752037)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:06 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Not Quinn, but close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752059)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:09 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Boies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752083)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:10 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

not lit / corp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752091)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:49 AM
Author: ruby motley boistinker station

(weil associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754962)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 6:04 AM
Author: provocative bisexual telephone

Race?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754502)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:03 PM
Author: supple rehab therapy

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752039)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:06 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

will not do it until I figure out wtf to do with my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752055)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Corn Cake Set

you should've been planning for this for the last 2 years

but good luck to you bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752062)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:09 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

sure I have had this in the back of my mind and emailed a half-dozen recruiters already tonight, but do I have any chance? or will lateral people just shit on me now that I am in the dog house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752082)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:08 PM
Author: Shivering Community Account

lol they let you stay on four+ years, probably doing shitty work along the way. what did you think would happen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752078)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:10 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

fair enough. go to another firm or fucking quit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752090)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: Shivering Community Account

I guess. well, anyways, don't become unemployed bc then the last four years was for nothing but the cash, and that wasn't a good trade unless you had no friends and nothing to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752418)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Honestly advice here

Step 1: Go into the review tomorrow and don't take any shit. If you think they are being disingenuous about your performance, don't be a pussy call them out on it. When they tell you that you have three months, ask for four months. Stand up for yourself and don't let the act like they're doing you any favors.

Step 2: Walk out the the review and go home. Take the rest of the week off and clear your head. Go do something fun.

Step 3: First thing Sunday morning, sit down and polish your resume, draft a couple generic cover letters and start applying for ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. Apply to firms, in-house, non-profits, government, non-legal jobs. Give yourself as many options as you can while you have the time.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752125)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:23 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Thank you for the advice bro. I was going to ask for until the end of the year, but will consider myself lucky if I get 4 months. To that end, still advisable to call them out on the bs review I am about to get?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752208)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:27 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Tactfully yes. Don't get railroaded for sure. It's the only chance you'll have to stand up for yourself and if you don't you'll regret it. Worst case scenario you get 3 months. Best case you have a backbone a negotiate 6 months plus bonus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752228)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

I plan on just stating that I disagree with their assessment but would like until the end of the year, my office, my email, me on the website, etc while I get my shit together

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752234)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:32 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Exactly the smart play. I would say that this comes as a shock, you've been given good feedback and have given a substantial part of your career to the firm. You haven't even started looking for new jobs and it will take time to get things in motion. Explain how bleeck the market is for laterals right now (make this up). Out of respect you'd appreciate having until the end of the year.

PROTIP: If you're able to cash out your vacation or any other benefits, make sure to e-mail accounting or HR first thing tomorrow morning before your review to get the ball rolling. Otherwise you'll get fucked out of that too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752256)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:35 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

how the fuck do you cashout vacation when you aren't leaving (officially)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752274)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:39 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Some firms let you cash out your vacation and maybe sick days once they have accrued to a certain level without actually leaving the firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752316)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

wish that was the case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752442)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:45 PM
Author: French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point

Explain the protip QP. Don't you get these anyway after you end? (This is relevant to my interests)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752709)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 12:16 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Depends on the state law. In some states employers can fuck you on it.

I only mention it because some firms will let you cash out if you have accrued enough. Better to go ahead and cash out now rather than run the risk of getting fucked out of it when you actually leave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755235)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

Explain how asking for four would go

Edit: this is good advice though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752218)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:32 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

see above poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752259)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:33 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752263)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: haunting step-uncle's house

The only way the firm gives you more than 3 is if they are worried about being sued for some kind of discrimination.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754859)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:56 AM
Author: Frum Menage

Yes, very doubtful they will negotiate but you'll regret not asking at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754986)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:40 PM
Author: Marvelous Ruddy Crotch University

Step 4: Set up LLC/PLLC/whatever in case you need to convince someone that you were trying to start your own business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752668)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:54 AM
Author: Frum Menage

CR. They are always disingenuous about performance. When it's time to cull the herd, they do just that and completely make up shit about your performance to justify it. You'll feel better if you call them on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754984)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:34 PM
Author: Cream tanning salon

debt? hours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752271)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:36 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

no debt, decent savings, but wife and kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752284)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:36 PM
Author: Cream tanning salon

how many hours were you billing? why are they letting you go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752291)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

on target for about 21-2200 this year. bit lower than previous years (24-2500). I think is the result of a) slower biz in our group, b) new lateral partner bitch doesn't like me and openly trashes me

EDIT: hours are somewhat of a defense, but when the shit comes down, it's about who has your back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752301)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:13 PM
Author: Brindle heady rigpig

why doesn't she like you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752469)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:27 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

She fucked something up when she came over and tried to throw my associate mentee (a blameless first year in the group) under the bus and I called her out to the practice group head. This was also after I turned her down twice on assignments because I was "too busy" (but really didn't want to work with her because a bro at her old firm told me what a POS she is)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752561)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:38 PM
Author: Avocado corner

Can you reveal the 3rd letter of her first name?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752648)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:39 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752666)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:42 PM
Author: Avocado corner

nevermind, I thought I knew her. must be a different awful lateral partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752695)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:11 AM
Author: slimy site goal in life

JFC for being stealthed at 21-2200 hrs regardless of personality clashes. it's not like they can just lateral someone in (at mid-senior levels, the lateral market for law firms is bleak because of competition from in-house gigs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754811)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 1:43 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

I know. BS but nothing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755500)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:35 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324764&mc=99&forum_id=2

Leaving this here mang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752275)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:35 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

thanks bro, but ATL? naah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752280)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

Yeah. The timing just worked out. Seriously, good luck man. It may be a bitch but you will land on your feet. The firm has an incentive to make sure you do and will probably hook you up with an outplacement service etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752309)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:39 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

are those worthwhile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752314)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:49 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

No personal experience, but I expect so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752332)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 8:59 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

Hey mang, if you are up to it, I'm sure it would be appreciated by myself and others if you update this thread in the month(s) to come. We all have a clock that is winding down, and info is hard to come by.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752392)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

of course. I just got my first response email from a recruiter so I will let you know how this goes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752446)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:19 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

Just a heads up, recruiters are great for BIGLAW positions but they don't give you everything. You may want to spend a few hours going to firm web sites, even for BIGLAW, and see what they have posted as openings.

Watching my bros go through the process, many firms are more likely to bring you in if you apply directly through the web site as opposed to a recruiter (since they don't have to pay a fee). And you're more likely to negotiate a signing bonus.

With smaller firms and in-house positions, it will all be on your own so start combing web sites starting Sunday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752504)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:27 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

TY for the tip. What websites would you suggest for dat inhouse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752570)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:31 PM
Author: Awkward Regret Faggot Firefighter

www.goinhouse.com

ACC website

simplyhired.com

linkedin

And just simply look at what companies are in the areas you want to live. Look at their websites and see if they have openings.

For legal jobs use:

law360

www.gobiglaw.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752598)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:33 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

thank you friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752608)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 11:00 PM
Author: henna box office

i would go a step further and say that if a recruiter is offering you a biglaw position that is openly advertised on their website (and thus not an exclusive recruiter listing), don't apply through the recruiter at all.

law firms recruiting doesn't work like anything else where submitting through website is like submitting into a black hole. if you're qualified, they will get back to you in biglaw and they will be more likely to get back to you if they don't have to pay an absurd recruiter fee when they can get an equally qualified candidate without paying one.

i say this from experience where recruiters submitting me to ttt shit and they weren't responding at all while i was getting intvs at higher ranked vault firms submitting on my own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23753334)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:18 AM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor

CP. Also, be careful with recruiters. Some will just spam your resume to multiple firms: a spray and pray approach.

I have dealt with a handful of recruiters, and I can say that out of like 6 recruiters, only one was great. The recruiter would call me to let me know that I was rejected and applied to firms I was interest in. Some recruiters will try to push any firm on you, which may be what you want considering your circumstances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754822)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 7:23 AM
Author: multi-colored locus

My GF just had an interview with a V50 and he said they exclusively hire through recruiters, and basically implied that he knew other firms did that as well.

I am not disagreeing with your advice, but it just goes to show you that you need to exhaust 100% of your options. Headhunters, job postings, personal friends, business contacts, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754548)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:30 AM
Author: haunting step-uncle's house

Recruiters are also good when you are working with a 3-month clock. They seem hell-bent on moving the ball along as quickly as humanly possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754875)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:30 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

Many thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752589)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 9:48 PM
Author: French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point

I hope you will continue to update ITT, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23752730)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 11:01 PM
Author: Unhinged Pervert Police Squad

If you're at DPW, well, a friend of mine is going through the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23753340)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Fragrant drab meetinghouse

credited, they are shitcanning people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23753845)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 12:42 AM
Author: Big Cyan Native Newt

but they are lateral hiring in lit as we speak. explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23753930)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 9:53 AM
Author: Learning disabled aqua theater dog poop

thats natural. this is just part of the biglaw cycle. a 5th year would be very vulnerable to stealthing in any economy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754778)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:47 AM
Author: Thriller Church Mediation

Shouldn't years 4-6 be more valuable as your rate is higher, your work is less general, and there are fewer of you around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754956)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:58 AM
Author: Learning disabled aqua theater dog poop

the rate is higher so there is more pressure to justify your existence. at this stage you really start representing the firm and you serve as the clients first point of contact, so scrutiny is heightened. plus, since you can leverage juniors, generally fewer of the people at this level are needed. so there is a natural need to cull.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754990)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 11:04 AM
Author: Thriller Church Mediation

That blows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755007)



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Date: July 30th, 2013 11:48 PM
Author: Unhinged Pervert Police Squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23753648)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 10:13 AM
Author: Bearded space

How much money did you save and how much debt did you pay off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23754816)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 1:46 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Small debt accrued and paid 50k

Outside of retirement, I have over 250k saved, so I should be ok for a bit. However being wife and kid pwned, I have to move fAst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755514)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

damn how did you save $250K with a wife and kids after only 5 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755569)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Wife worked until kid #2 came and we live very fucking tight / given the Layoffs in 09, we have been essentially planning for this (we are both skinflint Jews)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755609)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:20 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

could you lay out your monthly budget/expenses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755656)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:25 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Aside from healthcare, I spend approx. 4k on housing and 3k on everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755682)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:26 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

$4K? Do you have a mortgage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755686)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755698)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:40 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

y or why? why - just curious. 3k for other expenses seems impressively low

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755762)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:44 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Spend no money / eat at home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755777)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:44 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Well review / firing in 15. Wish me luck bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755780)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:47 PM
Author: Burgundy autistic hall sneaky criminal

GL. In the end things will work out, it just may take some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755791)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:48 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

GL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755794)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 2:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor

Best of luck brother. Also, feel free to leave right after your review. My suggestion would be to start handing off your work to other associates and go have a nice dinner (preferably home cooked) with your wife and kids.

Another tip would be that you let the partners know that you would like a few days off in order to gather your thoughts, etc. This is assuming you will be coming back into work after they gave you your marching orders. I asked for a few days off and never came back. I took a road trip through the South.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755805)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:02 PM
Author: haunting step-uncle's house

I wouldn't set foot in the office for 90 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755849)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor

I may do it if the firm were pulling strings to help me get a job. A friend of mine was fired, but a partner helped secure him an in-house position. It was probably more the timing. The client was looking for someone with his exact skill set.

Other than that, I know some people may go in to give the spouse and family the appearance that they are still employed. Although, I'd probably go to the movies in a suit if I had to do it.

Nevertheless, your statement is credited. Take those 90 days for yourself and your family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756021)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:36 PM
Author: haunting step-uncle's house

Lol @ going to work to trick your spouse, you gotta be fucking kidding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756025)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor

Some people have family issues brother. I can't find the original article, but this dude was pretending to go to work every day: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303018/Sacked-City-banker-paid-escorts-taunt-hanged-himself.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756338)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 4:55 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

one partner has offered to help me out, so I will keep doing his stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763055)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:09 PM
Author: Lake slippery address

Been there, bro. Good luck. The advice in this thread is all credited: Go back to your office, log off of computer, turn off BB, and head home. Make it absolutely clear that you don't expect to be their bitch through the end. When you stop replying to emails cold, they'll get it. (I realize that this might be tough if you give a shit at all, but I'd try to do it as best as you can.)

Spend the next few days with your wife and kids to remind yourself how much BigLaw really sucks and how much more to life there is, and then start applying to things in a week or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755888)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:30 PM
Author: haunting step-uncle's house

How'd it go down, bro? Share with us before you hit the bottle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23755999)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 3:45 PM
Author: Bonkers Sexy Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756066)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:20 PM
Author: High-end Elastic Band Preventive Strike

Likeable characters, strong story arc, cliff-hanger.

Solid flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756302)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:22 PM
Author: Frum Menage

Nothing unbelievable about it though. Happens all the time. So a weird thing to flame about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756315)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:24 PM
Author: High-end Elastic Band Preventive Strike

That's why it worked. You idiots should take note.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756329)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:28 PM
Author: Frum Menage

Cool man, I'll make a flame thread that I took a dump just now when actually I haven't yet today! Man I am so devious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756345)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:33 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756380)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:34 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

he saved $250k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756383)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:35 PM
Author: Frum Menage

Hm, well he only had 50k debt and still has some. So not too unbelievable. Could be an inheritance or gifts in there too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756393)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:45 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

And wife worked for 3+ yrs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757732)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:33 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756381)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 4:24 PM
Author: Peach casino organic girlfriend

i want an update on this sikkk flaym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23756321)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:44 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Wish it was flame bro it's my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757724)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 7:30 PM
Author: Violet startled incel athletic conference

bbbbbump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757266)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 7:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle blue stain dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757390)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 7:43 PM
Author: French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point

Hey man, you don't have to answer to the firm anymore, but you still have to answer to us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757318)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:44 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Well it looks like 4 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757719)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: Turquoise national

Tell us more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757738)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:47 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

NO surprises. They started in on my performance / I cut them off and said "stop wasting all of our time. Lets cut to the chase"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757750)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

They offered 3, I said that was absurd given that its August and demanded 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757754)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:49 PM
Author: Turquoise national

Lol FLAME

thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757760)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:50 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Bro, I wish this was flame. This is my fucking life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757769)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:53 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

take a pic of something in your office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757803)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757739)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: hairraiser naked abode cumskin

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757744)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:47 PM
Author: Frum Menage

Wow not bad man. Congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757752)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

I feel ok

Edit: but I am pretty bummed out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757755)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: Frum Menage

Just a typical, predictable thing man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757796)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:53 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

Has to happen once I suppose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757805)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: French Maroon Liquid Oxygen Point

What did you do with the rest of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757799)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 4:56 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

got drinks with a friend, came back, spammed resume to recruiters, went back out and got completely shitfaced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763059)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 8:53 PM
Author: exciting zombie-like ladyboy

sorry bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23757810)



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Date: July 31st, 2013 11:34 PM
Author: Razzmatazz weed whacker hominid

to op bro (if not flame): really sorry to hear it. it sucks, but you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders. good luck landing on your feet.

General rant: this isn't stealthing. "Stealthing" came from the darkest hours of ITE and referred to a firm conducting a mass headcount-reducing layoff but doing it sneakily through completely BS performance reviews. Basically, stealthing is trying to pull a Latham (or should we call it pulling a Weil now?) while keeping your firm's name off of ATL. Laying people off because of performance or as part of the natural culling that happens in every firm to midlevels and seniors? That's not stealthing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23759176)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 5:01 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx fortuitous meteor

(John Quinn)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763077)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 5:02 PM
Author: Jet racy scourge upon the earth range

so the other assocs who are getting shitcanned along with me at this time (4 of whom I know personally) are not getting stealthed. it's just natural performance review canning?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763081)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: cracking insane location mental disorder

how is allen and overy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763137)



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Date: August 1st, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Stimulating lemon becky wagecucks

*was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2324958&forum_id=2#23763162)