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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:22 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma with all these anti-troll measures and the problem coming into the national spotlight. i predict ip litigators will be out of work next 3-5 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192728) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:34 AM Author: Excitant Menage what a faggot post -- you jealous of ip lit bros?
On that note, I think EECS has the most interesting exit options IMO -- banking, consulting, engineering, patent law etc. These bros will have work even if patent lit shuts down in some rare event |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:35 AM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Engineering is not a realistic exit option for most. I'm not sure why banking/consulting would have much use for former patent litigators either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192810) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:37 AM Author: Excitant Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192821) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:42 AM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner We are talking about lawyers who spent several years practicing law and then did this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192837) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:43 AM Author: Excitant Menage Sorry bro didn't read the post right. In any case, no I don't think patent law is going to die at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192839) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:38 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma no look at weil, wilmer etc. laying off IP LIT BROS by the masses.
banking/consulting etc. may be viable option while in law school, but not really once someone has done ip lit for 3-5 yrs bro. |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:41 AM Author: Excitant Menage Sorry bro I don't know the details of these layoffs but were there more IP bros laid off then corporate, etc.? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192834) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:45 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma yeah bro. this was a few months ago... ip lit is huge flame and going down shitter soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192845) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:47 AM Author: Excitant Menage I thought that was because 1. they overhired ip lit 2. Bill Lee retiring
not bc of the downfall of ip lit |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:48 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma overhiring is CR. too many bros w/ engineering/science degrees flocked to law school 2006-2012 when they thought it was golden ticket to copping dat $160k jerb. supply/demand for ip lit is way out of line now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192873) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:51 AM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Haha, c'mon. EE/CS bros are still infinitely better off than most JD's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192891) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:57 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma not saying much when most jds are unemployed hth. but ee/cs bros were probably smart enough to go to med school or do engineering for a 9-5 $100k jerb and will be regretting going to law school very soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192931) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:04 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Less than 5% of lawyers are patent-bar eligible and probably less than 1% are CS/EE. You act like there is some massive hoard of unemployed or soon-to-be unemployed CS/EE JD's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192973) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:09 PM Author: Excitant Menage TCR. Patent law is better than dentistry IMO. Similar average money, no need to put my hands in someone's mouth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192998) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 8:50 PM Author: Haunting peach parlour why would someone with an engineering degree do ls? i mean you could get a job designing and building stuff that actually matters, but instead they wanted to write claims so a few fat useless partners could buy another house that they did not need. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195745) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 8:53 PM Author: Excitant Menage I mean obviously, so that they can become one of those fat partners with useless houses lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195765) |
Date: October 8th, 2013 11:35 AM Author: Rebellious ticket booth Anti-troll measures are mostly flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192809) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:44 AM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner I tend to agree, although there have been quite a few ip lit layoffs as of late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192843) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:47 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma yup. I heard rumors there would be more ip specific layoffs at various firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192867) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:47 AM Author: Rebellious ticket booth That's more about the smart phone wars ramping down IMO. The kind of trolls that the reforms are targeting don't really generate much revenue for legit firms. The VirnetX/Eolas type trolls aren't going anywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192868) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:49 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma u a patent law bro? how do u think market will do 5-10 yrs out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192880) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:52 AM Author: Rebellious ticket booth I am. It won't be anything like the last couple years bc the smart phone wars are an anomaly. That said, IP lit is only going to become gradually more and more common as companies and trolls are monetizing their IP through litigation way more than they did in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192897) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:58 AM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma u ever do ITC lit? that is going to dry up completely within next year or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192933) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:59 AM Author: Excitant Menage why do you keep on insisting that parts of tech lit are going to die? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192947) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:01 PM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma seems like the trend to me and i want to expose the huge IP SECURE flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192956) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:04 PM Author: Excitant Menage Bro but think about it. We are getting even more dependent on technology (smartphones, ipads, etc. smart tv's) and spending more money on it. There's insane amount of software now. And tech companies are going to sue the hell out of each other cuz that's where the big $$$$ is at. It's not going to slow down then before, if not grow more. The bro's post above about mobile wars is legit, and patent lit will slow down compared to samsung vs. apple years but will not slow down compared to the period before that. Just not possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192975) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:07 PM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma but won't tech companies realize that in the end, massive cross-licensing saves EVERYONE money? did anyone actually come out on top and make money from the smartphone wars? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192988) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:35 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Doubtful. Although the legal fees were massive, they were nothing compared to the overall size of the market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193105) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:05 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner If you have a respectable CS/EE degree, a respectable JD, and are not a massive social retard, it's still plenty SECURE and will be for a long time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192981) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:03 PM Author: Rebellious ticket booth Nope, thank jebus. As a policy matter, I'd love to see the ITC shit die, but as long as the injunction standard is lower at the ITC, ITC lit is here to stay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24192967) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 11:59 AM Author: Excitant Menage On any note, I wish I had done patent law.
I know 3 people in it, one is in-house for a mega tech company (think Intel, IBM...) pretty high up banking 1.2 mill. One is a partner at a IP bigtique, banking 800K. One is a female, decided to go in-house for 230K + options after 5 years at big law. My samples are pretty skewed but fuck am I jealous of their BALLING. |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:12 PM Author: concupiscible primrose mother hell ip lit takes you no where. patent pros opens many doors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193013) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:16 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner I tend to agree with this. Having some familiarity with patent lit is probably useful. But prosecution/transactional and knowing how to manage a company's patent portfolio with business goals in mind is where you want to end up long-term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193028) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:24 PM Author: Excitant Menage Also need legit tech degree for patent pros then lit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193065) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:33 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Well, in the last few years, the demand in both lit and pros has been strong for BS in EE/CE/CS. I've seen a lot of in-house counsel at big tech companies managing patent portfolios that don't even have that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193099) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:51 PM Author: Excitant Menage Bro do you know the salary range for these in-house counsel types? Also salary for ip pros boutique partners? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193157) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:54 PM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma interested in this as well. also, how hard to go inhouse from ip lit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193178) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 1:02 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner Pretty tough. Not much use for litigators in-house, ip or not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193225) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 1:04 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner For in-house, maybe $100K-$350K, depending on experience level and the type of company. A fair number of smaller tech companies hire in-house counsel to manage patent prosecution. I imagine some of these positions don't pay as well.
Equity partners at ip boutiques might make something like $300K-$500K. |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 1:59 PM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma that seems low for "boutiques" like fish, finnegan. are you talking more of oliff, birch stewart type boutiques? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193532) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 2:02 PM Author: azure adulterous hairy legs gunner For patent prosecutors? I would think they would need a pretty big book to make more than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193552) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 2:10 PM Author: Rebellious ticket booth Fish has an incredible spread in partner comp, something like 23:1. Your average equity partner isn't doing much better than 500k with that kind of spread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193598) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 3:05 PM Author: concupiscible primrose mother hell it's almost impossible to get higher than 500k in patent prosecution. your efficiency has to be insanely high and you need a good amount of leverage just to get to 500k. most of the boutique partners making north of 500k at ip boutiques do some kind of combination of pros and lit or just lit by itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193859) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 7:37 PM Author: Excitant Menage Is making partner in IP Lit the same level of difficulty for other fields or is it better for someone that has set their mind to it and is actively searching for clients, has a good technical degree, etc.? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195198) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:16 PM Author: silver swollen range friendly grandma yup i dont think pros will go away. but companies will soon realize suing each other constantly results in a net loss for everyone. but most t-14 eecs opt for lit cuz its sexier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193031) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 12:23 PM Author: Excitant Menage yeah like they haven't realized this for the last 20 years when the tech boom started.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24193060) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 8:18 PM Author: Diverse shimmering kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195539) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 8:48 PM Author: Haunting peach parlour NOTHING IS SECURE!!!!!!! Have you learned nothing from what happened in 08, or from jsut being in America your whole life. NO job is secure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195727) |
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Date: October 8th, 2013 9:28 PM Author: Flesh headpube business firm i know a bro who recently got NOWAG'ed out of his second IP LIT firm. altho the firm hired a more junior version of him--non technical background, magna/summa from ttt, previous lit BIGLAW experience--so maybe he just really got CUCKED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#24195997) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2015 7:59 PM Author: know-it-all property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#27378777) |
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Date: April 26th, 2015 7:05 PM Author: passionate harsh associate bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#27766008) |
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Date: May 11th, 2015 6:41 AM Author: passionate harsh associate bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2381995&forum_id=2#27865455) |