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One of the first years in my group has been screwing up left and

right. Partners are starting to take note, they've been spe...
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  01/30/14
Is there a well respected (by both the partners and the othe...
Cracking mother bawdyhouse
  01/30/14
That sounds like a good approach. Kind of an awkward convo ...
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  01/30/14
Good luck. The fact that you care and are trying to help out...
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  01/30/14
"before they have to get their hands dirty" 180
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what substantive work are they giving him that is causing su...
galvanic azure mental disorder base
  01/30/14
Legal research for the most part. The one thing you should ...
adventurous naked national mexican
  01/30/14
even non-lawyers should be able to handle it
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  01/30/14
Do you think the first year takes precious time out of his p...
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  01/30/14
Doubtful. I'm pretty much poasting 24/7 so I'm sure I'd hav...
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  01/30/14
describe first year's academic pedigree and physically
Marvelous Idiotic Site
  01/30/14
T20. Short.
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  01/30/14
Let's cut the bullshit. How short are we talking here?
Doobsian therapy
  01/30/14
I'm guessing five six or something like that. I'm tall as h...
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describe the fuck ups. what could he possibly not understand...
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  01/30/14
He's f'd up on legal research; saying a case stands for one ...
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  01/30/14
He's fucked. 6 mos max
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  01/30/14
Litigation is just awful
Know-it-all jew idiot
  01/30/14
We're in a hybrid group, so he's had exposure to transaction...
adventurous naked national mexican
  01/30/14
Why is it such a big deal to fuck up something like that? At...
Marvelous Idiotic Site
  01/30/14
Well if you can't trust someone to be able get basic things ...
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  01/30/14
How the fuck is that possible? You change the fucking names ...
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  01/30/14
millennials bro
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  02/20/15
That's crazy. I mean I believe it's possible I've just neve...
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  01/30/14
I was going to say you should talk to him but after reading ...
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  01/30/14
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  01/30/14
Once in a while legit dumbs like this show up, but usually t...
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  02/20/15
vault range? why did you hire from a t20?
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V50. Because we're a V50.
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Date: January 30th, 2014 4:57 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

right. Partners are starting to take note, they've been speaking with each of the mid levels to get their feedback and to confirm the reports of his many f ups. I've noticed even one of the nicest partners being pretty short with him during meetings, questioning whether he understands what he's doing. I'm only a second year so I'm not used to this sort of thing. The guys in my class all managed fine. Is it possible they ax a first year in like 6 months time? Feel like I should try to help but also fearful of getting caught up in the whole situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926262)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Cracking mother bawdyhouse

Is there a well respected (by both the partners and the other associates) mid/senior level associate in your group? If so, go talk to him and tell him that you're concerned for the first year but that you probably aren't senior enough to step in and try to correct some of the behaviors that are getting the dude into trouble. If the mid/senior is a good bro he'll take the dude out to lunch and let him know what's up. I did this twice for first years. Once it worked and once it didn't. The partners found out I did it and several of them mentioned it in a very positive manner in my review. It's sort of like a nice version of a "code red" (A Few Good Men anybody?) in that this is the type of thing that the partners would like to see their associates take a crack at fixing before they have to get their hands dirty (i.e., fire a first year after 9 months).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926514)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:31 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

That sounds like a good approach. Kind of an awkward convo to have but there are a few mid/seniors that I think would take the bullet and do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926574)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:38 PM
Author: Cracking mother bawdyhouse

Good luck. The fact that you care and are trying to help out is probably a good indication that in a few years you will be the bro mid level who people come to for help with this type of thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926624)



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Date: November 24th, 2014 8:44 PM
Author: comical shimmering theatre

"before they have to get their hands dirty" 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#26789634)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:21 PM
Author: boyish emerald trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359840)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 4:58 PM
Author: galvanic azure mental disorder base

what substantive work are they giving him that is causing such issue?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926275)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:04 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

Legal research for the most part. The one thing you should have a handle on when you start at a firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926328)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:10 PM
Author: peach dog poop

even non-lawyers should be able to handle it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926392)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 4:59 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac canary garrison

Do you think the first year takes precious time out of his packed BIGLAW schedule and poasts about you online?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926280)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: pale high-end theater stage wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926405)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:21 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

Doubtful. I'm pretty much poasting 24/7 so I'm sure I'd have noticed him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926481)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 4:59 PM
Author: Marvelous Idiotic Site

describe first year's academic pedigree and physically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926287)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:09 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

T20. Short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926375)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: Doobsian therapy

Let's cut the bullshit. How short are we talking here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926562)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:33 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

I'm guessing five six or something like that. I'm tall as hell though so it's tough for me to figure out exactly what's going on down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926585)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:37 PM
Author: Doobsian therapy

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926614)



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Date: November 24th, 2014 10:21 PM
Author: sepia meetinghouse toaster

Solid poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#26791462)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:14 PM
Author: Ultramarine location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359787)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:22 PM
Author: boyish emerald trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359847)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:44 PM
Author: well-lubricated stag film factory reset button

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359978)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 11:04 PM
Author: startled snowy foreskin

shorts fucking DONE HERE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27360108)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: maize godawful really tough guy degenerate

describe the fuck ups. what could he possibly not understand that other first years are somehow expected to understand?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926306)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:08 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

He's f'd up on legal research; saying a case stands for one thing and then when someone reviewed it before putting in a client memo, they found out it stood for the opposite result. He also has a tendency to not accept blame and has tried to throw another first year under the bus for something he was supposed to do, but just completely failed to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926359)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:09 PM
Author: shivering insanely creepy national security agency brunch

He's fucked. 6 mos max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926380)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:11 PM
Author: Know-it-all jew idiot

Litigation is just awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926402)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:23 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

We're in a hybrid group, so he's had exposure to transactional stuff and screwed that up too. Was helping out with a closing and royally and repeatedly f'd up some signature pages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926497)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Marvelous Idiotic Site

Why is it such a big deal to fuck up something like that? At my job, my boss would say, "Hey can you fix the signature page? It needs to be like x" and I'd do it and that would be the end of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926508)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

Well if you can't trust someone to be able get basic things right, it's kind of hard to trust them with anything of significance. Obviously everyone screws stuff up from time to time but this was worse than that. There were glaring errors after being told to fix multiple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926552)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: Know-it-all jew idiot

How the fuck is that possible? You change the fucking names and titles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926515)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:23 PM
Author: boyish emerald trailer park

millennials bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359859)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:37 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

That's crazy. I mean I believe it's possible I've just never heard of anyone going that quick at a biglaw place. Seems like they're putting everything in place to make if happen though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926615)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:10 PM
Author: peach dog poop

I was going to say you should talk to him but after reading this it's clear he's scum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926390)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:13 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

Yeah the throwing someone under the bus thing pissed me off, but I've never been in his position. I have to imagine he's starting to freak out and might not be handling himself rationally. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt for at least a little while longer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926414)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 8:13 PM
Author: brass appetizing theater persian

Once in a while legit dumbs like this show up, but usually they don't get a permanent offer after their SA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24927763)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:17 PM
Author: stirring lodge

guess race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359813)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:43 PM
Author: Dead fragrant stage preventive strike

vault range?

why did you hire from a t20?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926659)



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Date: January 30th, 2014 5:47 PM
Author: adventurous naked national mexican

V50.

Because we're a V50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#24926683)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 10:30 PM
Author: comical shimmering theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27149153)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:04 PM
Author: comical shimmering theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359709)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:21 PM
Author: stirring lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359838)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:30 PM
Author: boyish emerald trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2481885&forum_id=2#27359894)