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Date: February 20th, 2015 10:59 AM Author: Ebony bawdyhouse karate
for a first year? by corporate, i mean non-litigation.
assume that the firm does rotations. not flame, which do you think provides the best exposure for figuring out what you want to do? is the obvious answer m&a? it seems like a lot of people push banking regulatory work...
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Date: February 20th, 2015 11:01 AM Author: Vermilion razzmatazz orchestra pit dysfunction
i think m&A.
stay the hell away from banking/lending/finance.
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Date: February 20th, 2015 11:11 AM Author: razzle-dazzle church
M&A is def better than Finance but the hours are hell. Also, as a first year is fairly low level work (checklists, signature pages, hounding specialist for comments, running changes though drafts)
Specialist (IP, ERISA, Tax) who support M&A get a feel for what M&A is like but dont have nearly as many hours usually get a bit more higher level work.
That said, you will bill more in M&A and have a clearer path to Partner.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2813331&forum_id=2#27355662)
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Date: February 20th, 2015 1:19 PM Author: Vibrant startled feces whorehouse
the only work that involves problem solving is M&A.
everything else is just plagiarism/making charts of precedent.
(of the typical biglaw practices)
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Date: February 20th, 2015 2:32 PM Author: Bat shit crazy massive affirmative action
Tax. Don't over think it.
I also suspect that most tax associates could run a deal before corporate associates.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2813331&forum_id=2#27356853) |
Date: February 20th, 2015 3:13 PM Author: Startling Odious Den
Real Estate is pretty sweet if you like Real Estate....and there are far few fire drills than other corporate because Real Estate usually works on somewhat longer timelines that are known in advance.
Also, even many biglaw real estate clients don't have inhouse lawyers, so you don't have some shrew in-house lawyer looking over your shoulder and nitpicking you to death.
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Date: February 21st, 2015 8:22 PM Author: Smoky public bath
It's true that you need to be able to do some of the more routine work (e.g., basic capital markets transactions); but if you have expertise in a number of different interesting areas such that, for example, you can add value not only in cross border M&A but also internal restructurings, hedging programs, etc., you are likely to be able to weather cycles and have a sufficiently interesting workload to avoid suicide.
At any rate, I certainly wouldn't be enthusiastic about focusing primarily on structured products tax work. I had a candid conversation with a partner whose practice is largely in that area, and that person indicated it was about as interesting as specializing in FATCA/information reporting/backup withholding, though obviously considerably more lucrative.
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Date: February 24th, 2015 6:10 AM Author: Orchid locus
I would try to do at least one M&A deal, one cap markets deal (ideally not an IPO) and some work in a support group like Exec Comp, and see what you like the most.
I liked cap mkts the most, but it really depends on what you end up doing / what your firm does - e.g., doing tons of underwriter-side investment grade debt work seems like it would be pretty horrible, but I've done mostly issuer-side work which I thought was pretty good. I think exit opps are decent if you are at a good firm (specifically either to investment banks or corporate treasury teams, and people also move to DCM roles at banks). The lifestyle is a lot better than M&A - same shitty hours when deals are launching/pricing but you generally have a lot more advance warning, so you rarely have your weekend pwned out of the blue.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2813331&forum_id=2#27381638) |
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