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retttaking CA bar, you tell me how to pass in 3 weeks
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Date: June 27th, 2015 3:52 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Subject: while working full time I've already poasted before, but could use some more advice from the Saturday xo crowd...not just the over-stimmed bros on at 3am (they did give good advice though).
I have a 180 job (60hrs a week though). Failed bar on first attempt by about 40 points; not the only reason, but my mother copped that stage iv cancer and studying in the hospital with her doing chemo wasn't the best environment. Jerb doesn't require me to be barred, but I want to be before my mother goes.
The material still seems relatively fresh, long essays fucked me last time prob. b/c I was distracted as fuck during the test. I have to work at least 50hrs a week until the bar.
How do I effectively cram for the bar in 3 weeks? I'm not some beta-bitch complainer - will do what I need to do - I just don't want to waste any fucking time. Thanks bros. |
Date: June 27th, 2015 9:02 PM Author: hot coral business firm hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213731) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:16 PM Author: spruce box office whats your job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213801) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:30 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit entertainment related. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213864) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:40 PM Author: spruce box office business affairs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213890) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:43 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit ish, and not an assistant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213910) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: spruce box office did you start out by being an assistant/on a desk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213959) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 10:03 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit lol, fuck that. I was offered a few assistant jobs, but knew I would kill self. Relatively lucky, but copped a real job instead...which is why I can't quit to study. I know a lot of jd assistants though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28214010) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 1:28 AM Author: spruce box office what's the oldest age generally acceptable to be a jd assistant? assume jd did 4 years of biglaw after law school to pay off loans first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28215037) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 2:11 AM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit It's really a first gig for ppl just out of school from what I've seen. cheap labor for the agencies/business affairs departments while the jd learns the how the industry works. I've seen a few around 30 who are still assistant level, but most either give up on the "dream" or are promoted/lateral into a position.
Don't think it would be worth it for a 4th year to become an assistant. Depends on what your end game is. |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 12:02 PM Author: spruce box office how did you get the position - family/friend of family connection?
also do you mind saying what the position title is generally if not business or legal affairs, or the type of employer (agency, production company, studio, etc)? |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:16 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Got lucky and applied out of the blue, but my work experience got me the job. Before/during law school I usually got the first interview on my own, then used family/friend connections to make sure I got it.
Before lawl school I worked for a bit in the industry. Father is an attorney. Now I'm law adjacent...but for the bar, and a better opportunity...and that's a hard sell at this point.
Don't want to get too specific. Any one of the jobs you listed works well enough though. Entertainment industry consultant isn't too far off. I'll answer any ?'s you have about getting a job in entertainment just don't want to totally fucking out myself, which I've prob. already done...but fuckit. |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 7:57 PM Author: spruce box office If law related and not business affairs, is it talent management? what does a entertainment industry consultant do specifically? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28218943) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 11:10 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit it was just a good description of what we do, while trying to be vague. Talent management and business affairs/legal affairs type work (not in-house). Small office. Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28220165) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 11:21 PM Author: spruce box office just curious about what type of places generally and which types of nonlaw positions in entertainment generally like jds without necessarily making them start as assistants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28220244) |
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Date: June 29th, 2015 12:11 AM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit for sure. mixture of production and talent work for us, and some of the other nonlaw jds I've seen. A lot go into music management actually, others into international distribution/sales, talent management/agent (usually the assistants, but have a shot at young partnership), the rest into entertainment law.
I mean, usually the assistant route is how ppl get their foot in the door, then that parlays into something. I had a bit of experience beforehand so I was able to skip a step. |
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Date: June 29th, 2015 12:04 PM Author: spruce box office can you suggest a good resource to find music management or international sales/distribution companies and job ads? How much do either of these roles typically pay/how is comp structured (commission only, etc.)
Less importantly, can you roughly say what that prelaw school experience was? Not trying to get outable info, just want to see if there's something analogous that can be spun so that the assistant step could be skipped. |
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Date: July 8th, 2015 3:36 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit fyi via entertainmentcareers.net:
Director, Business & Legal Affairs Confidential Los Angeles, CA Posted: July 6, 2015 more jobs like this Full Time Job Independent production, sales, and distribution company seeks experienced attorney. Candidate will be involved in all aspects of the business, including development, production, sales, distribution, and all other business and legal matters as needed on a day t day basis. Candidate will also attend various markets and festivals to assist in sales and acquisition of titles.
Desired Qualifications: * 3+ years of solid entertainment business and legal experience, preferably in independent film. * Well organized. * Strict attention to detail. * Strong negotiation skills. * MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE BAR
Salary Salary commensurate with experience. |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:33 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit what is this schtick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213869) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 1:44 AM Author: Multi-colored church kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28215075) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit lol. thank you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213939) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: Emerald heady gay wizard Did you cop dat Anki yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213945) |
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Date: June 27th, 2015 9:57 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit yep. ty btw. doing 1 full mc section and one full essay every night after work, reviewing outlines and missed ?s in the morning before work. not sleeping very much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28213966) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 2:18 PM Author: Emerald heady gay wizard Rooting for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28216778) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 2:16 AM Author: White Foreskin Hell To be fair,
SUMMON: Diesel |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 12:14 PM Author: insane frisky native Honestly, if I were you, I'd go to outlinedepot.com and buy the complete set of Cali outlines for like $175-200. Just read those over and over and over until you memorize everything and you should be good to go. Maybe do some MBE questions and 1-2 performance tests just to get your timing down or whatever.
All of this should take you a total of 150-200 hours. |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 2:58 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Thanks. This is pretty much my approach...but doing more practice tests on the weekends. Doing flashcard app at lunch/during stupid down time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28216953) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:01 PM Author: House-broken painfully honest school What's the goal after you pass the bar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28216971) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:18 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Keep on keeping on at my jerb. It's a good spot with a ton of potential if I do it right. Don't need to pass the bar to do it, but it wouldn't hurt either. I'm really just taking the bar right now for my 'ma. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28217093) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:21 PM Author: amethyst marvelous field you have less than a 50% chance of passing. good luck though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28217109) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:24 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Yeah, I kinda know all that. But I have nothing else to lose but 3 weeks b/c my job doesn't depend on it. Might as well give it the good old 3 week study bender and relive my glory days. I've got my bottle of 21 y/o primed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28217138) |
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Date: June 28th, 2015 3:26 PM Author: insane frisky native It really depends on how much time he has to study. Working full time while trying to learn everything may be a bit much, but it's worth a try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28217147) |
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Date: June 29th, 2015 4:03 PM Author: Crystalline irate ticket booth Will 12 hrs a day until the exam guarantee a pass?
165 LSAT dooder here |
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Date: June 29th, 2015 5:12 PM Author: Crystalline irate ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28224955) |
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Date: June 29th, 2015 11:17 PM Author: stimulating stubborn orchestra pit Asking questions that are relevant to my interests... ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2921072&forum_id=2#28227380) |