in all seriousness, i think the lib carnival is dying a slow death
| hairraiser party of the first part | 08/11/15 | | motley school cafeteria | 08/12/15 | | exhilarant free-loading newt | 08/11/15 | | henna dog poop | 08/12/15 | | motley school cafeteria | 08/12/15 | | exhilarant free-loading newt | 08/12/15 | | Histrionic shitlib plaza | 08/12/15 | | arousing at-the-ready organic girlfriend ladyboy | 08/17/18 | | Provocative Hall | 08/17/18 | | Razzle-dazzle light crotch chapel | 08/17/18 | | bearded tanning salon | 08/17/18 |
Poast new message in this thread
Date: August 11th, 2015 11:57 PM Author: exhilarant free-loading newt
Much of the problem with the social left is that it has no material goals. If it had one, it was perhaps gay marriage, but that has since been achieved. But what is the endgame for feminists chanting for better treatment by society, etc. etc.? The carnival has continued to a point at which corporate America has become extremely friendly – almost absurdly so – towards their rhetoric. Intelligent feminists will recognize that they can expect little more from further campaigning – they have succeeded in making society conscious of their concerns, and the success of women henceforth must come of their seizing the opportunities won by their efforts. But the less-reasonable factions of the movement take the rise of feminism as an opportunity to push their narrative for its own sake. Thus the movement becomes divided – and, as you suggest, reasonable people become less and less interested in associating with it as the publicized rhetoric becomes increasingly radical.
Feminists, the African-American population, etc. may demand better treatment – and they may have an argument in some cases – but there are only so many changes which can be brought from the top-down by people in power. Once they are, those left shouting are ultimately complaining about prevailing social norms which they must act to change on their own, and which take time to evolve (e.g. the status of women, inner-city African-American culture, etc.). When all that can be done deliberately has been done, anyone still pushing the narrative does so either to satisfy their need for attention or in hopes of receiving special benefits from business and the government.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2961012&forum_id=2#28532194) |
|
Date: August 17th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: arousing at-the-ready organic girlfriend ladyboy
"Much of the problem with the social left is that it has no material goals."
I agree with everything in your post but I'd also argue that its a symptom of our political discourse and not just the province of the "social left". Realistic material goals that can achieve broad support are anathema to those who are the most politically active and those who consume the most media. This leads to a cycle where angry revolutionary voices advance fringe ideas and make unrealistic, vague, and stupid promises, they achieve power, they (or their party) inevitably disappoint, years later they get called fakes/phonies/corrupt/DINO's/RINO's/cucks, a new "pure" leader or movement emerges and the cycle repeats itself.
"but there are only so many changes which can be brought from the top-down by people in power."
Agreed, especially as it relates to social and cultural changes. But this can also be said of Trump's most fervent supporters. They are motivated by their fight for their unrealistic cultural vision of the country and are more than willing to cede most tax, budgetary, and regulatory policy to the elements of the party they hate the most.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2961012&forum_id=2#36632330)
|
|
|