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Date: December 16th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: glittery insane piazza
makes me sad. there is not a leader alive -- hasnt been -- who holds a candle to someone like napoleon. the sheer will.
i felt the same reading about caesar and pompey recently. the republic and US "democracy" are really not that different, and yet we cannot produce one man who sees how things are and simply says, "Nah, we've got to fix some shit, Im just going to run things. fuck your 'republic', follow me."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37417518)
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Date: December 16th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: glittery insane piazza
im a newb to roman history, so I dont know much. But after Sulla, the threat that Caesar would simply charge his legions into Rome was a real thing, correct? Can you imagine any modern leader hinting, "if you dont get on board I will simply invade our capital, deal with that shit"?
While his power may have been "legitimate", it seems it was only by the force of his demand. The senate would have liked nothing better than that he return from gaul and be a private citizen again, like Nixon after he left the white house, or george washington.
Caesar, basically, did what was needed and let the system adjust itself around him.
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Date: December 16th, 2018 5:52 PM Author: Blue swashbuckling stag film useless brakes
Might depend on what you mean by "modern," but pretty much sounds like Lincoln. Nothing in the Constitution even contemplated civil war. Was the Emancipation Proclamation legal? Only if you count slaves as property of a warring nation, so therefore only if you give legal effect to the secession. Lincoln decided it needed to be done and did it, come hell or high water.
To a lesser extent, Obama too. Is it legal to drone-strike an American citizen? Maybe, maybe not.
But yeah, I'll grant the point that Mattis marching the Marine Corps into DC to throw the whole thing over when they finally reach peak corruption seems implausible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37417770) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 6:11 PM Author: at-the-ready passionate chapel goal in life
is there a single great leader who figured out how to do succession?
Alexander the Great's conquest immediately fell into rival satrapies
the Mongols broke up into a few generations (though the individual Khanates lasted centuries)
lol @ the thought of the Third Reich surviving the in-fighting and mishmash system that Hitler cobbled up by whim even if he had a clear heir
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37417862) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: irradiated den
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Teddy Roosevelt may actually beat Napoleon in the autodidact category.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/01/09/trump-isnt-big-on-reading-teddy-roosevelt-consumed-whole-books-before-breakfast/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3b5a747f678d
Edmund Morris described Teddy’s reading habits in his three-volume biography:
He succumbs to it so totally — on the heaving deck of the Presidential yacht in the middle of a cyclone, between whistle-stops on a campaign trip, even while waiting for his carriage at the front door — that he cannot hear his own name being spoken. Nothing short of a thump on the back will regain his attention. Asked to summarized the book he has been leafing through with such apparent haste, he will do so in minute detail, often quoting the actual text.
At minimum, Teddy read a book a day — history, poetry, philosophy, novels.
He devoured newspapers and magazines, too, Morris wrote, though in a somewhat predatory way: “Each page, as he comes to the end of it, is torn out and thrown onto the floor.”
This went all night, every night, until Teddy’s one good eye had enough. Then he would leap from his rocking chair, get into his cozy pajamas, and place next to his pillow “a large, precautionary revolver.”
Teddy would then “energetically fall asleep,” Morris wrote, “there being nothing further to do.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37417628) |
Date: December 16th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: stirring weed whacker sanctuary
Describe the 1800s and 1900s if Napoleon had declined to invade Russia.
Would the Confederation of the Rhine have joined Austria or Prussia (or both I guess) to form Germany? Would Spain have been successful in the Peninsular war or would they have been crushed? How long would it take for the UK to capitulate?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37417546) |
Date: December 16th, 2018 10:18 PM Author: Gaped Famous Landscape Painting Principal's Office
Marshal Ney, "the Bravest of the Brave,” who had taken service under the
Bourbons, boasted that he would bring his former master
back to Paris in an iron cage. He found he could not resist
the Emperor’s call, and he joined Napoleon. Other Marshals who
bad turned their coats now turned them again. Within eighteen
days of his landing, Napoleon was installed in the capital.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37419156) |
Date: December 16th, 2018 10:29 PM Author: Gaped Famous Landscape Painting Principal's Office
Napoleon had for nine months been sovereign of Elba.
The former master of the Continent now looked out upon
a shrunken island domain. He kept about him the apparatus
of Imperial dignity. He applied to the iron mines and tunny
fisheries of his little kingdom the same probing energy that
had once set great armies in motion. He still possessed an
army. It included four hundred members of his Old Guard, a
few displaced Polish soldiers, and a local militia. He also
had a navy, for which he devised a special Elban ensign. His
fleet consisted of a single brig and some cutters. To these
puny armaments and to the exiguous Elban budget he devoted his attention. He would henceforth give himself up, he had
told the people of Elba, to the task of ensuring their happiness.
For their civic dignitaries he invented an impressive uniform.
At Porto Ferrajo, his capital, he furnished a palace in the
grand manner. He played cards with his mother, and cheated
according to his recognised custom. He entertained his favourite sister and his faithful Polish mistress. Only his wife, the
Empress Marie Louise, and their son were missing. The Austrian Government took care to keep them both in Vienna.
The Empress showed no sign of wishing to break her parole.
Family Habsburg loyalty meant more to her than her husband.
A stream of curious foreign visitors came to see the fallen
Emperor, many from Britain. One of them reported, perhaps
not without prejudice, that he looked more like a crafty priest
than a great commander. The resident Allied Commissioner
on Elba, Sir Neil Campbell, knew better. As the months went
by, close observers became sure that Napoleon was biding his
time. He was keeping a watch on events in France and
Italy. Through spies he was in touch with many currents of
opinion. He perceived that the restored Bourbons could not
command the loyalty of the French. Besides, they had failed
to pay him the annual pension stipulated in the treaty of
peace. This act of pettiness persuaded Napoleon that he was
absolved from honounng the treaty’s terms. In February
1815 he saw, or thought he saw, that the Congress of Vienna
was breaking up.The Allies were at odds, and France, discontented, beckoned to him. Campbell, the shrewd Scottish
watchdog, was absent in Italy. Of all this conjunction of circumstances, Napoleon took lightning advantage. On Sunday
night, the 26th of February, he slipped out of harbour in his
brig, attended by a small train of lesser vessels. At the head
of a thousand men, he set sail for France. On March 1, he
landed near Antibes. The local band, welcommg him, played
the French equivalent of Home, Sweet Home. .
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3020946&forum_id=2#37419211)
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