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Friend started business, is using others pics for her portfolio - illegal?

She is starting an interior design company and of course has...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
Probably won't get pwned, but is certainly engaging in legal...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
I'm not a lawyer and even I know how bad this is.
Flickering Crackhouse
  02/04/16
Explain!
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
She's putting herself at risk of copyright infringement if a...
Flickering Crackhouse
  02/04/16
What would be the damages for copyright? Just nominal right?...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
Depends on if the copyrights in the photos are registered (a...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
But these pics are all over the web, tumblr pinterest etc if...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
Even without the copyright issues, if clients find out isn't...
Flickering Crackhouse
  02/04/16
Good point just another way the "system" keeps peo...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
It almost certainly violates FTC regulations. It's almost c...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
You are a retard. This chick is smart as fuck. She will neve...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
Wrong. Probably not. Likely so.
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
I guess all that matters is the last sentence.
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
Yeah, I mean a ton of people do stuff they shouldn't and don...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
1. Intellectual property law does not reflect any kind of mo...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
1. I'm talking about intentional deception. That is shitty...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
How is anything fraudulent? OP never says she tries to pass ...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
cr
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
"OP never says she tries to pass off other peoples' stu...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
It might not explicitly say iy is hers. It might just show ...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
The "everybody's doing it" defense is not a valid ...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
would only become an issue if she MAEKS IT, by which time sh...
Slimy double fault love of her life
  02/04/16
Thats what i told her too. She already has like 11k follower...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
Pretty unlikely the owners of the pics are going to sue her
up-to-no-good bbw
  02/04/16
^ legal opinion
godawful locale sex offender
  02/04/16
mere puffery.
Rough-skinned Pink Ladyboy Haunted Graveyard
  02/04/16
...
ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry
  02/04/16
I would think your typical established designer would be doi...
ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry
  02/04/16
Modify the pics.
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
...
amethyst vigorous space patrolman
  02/04/16
That's not nearly as easy as you think it is. Look at some o...
ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry
  02/04/16
Fraud, unfair competition, IP violations...
sienna flirting people who are hurt
  02/04/16
Administrative actions if licensed...
sienna flirting people who are hurt
  02/04/16
She can contract around fraud claims by her clients. Dat no ...
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
No reliance covenant. Q: Enforceable?
sienna flirting people who are hurt
  02/04/16
Usually.
shivering toaster generalized bond
  02/04/16
http://stopstealingphotos.com/ HTH
Grizzly Curious Public Bath
  02/04/16
http://www.youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16
I will lol when one of these images is some getty images lic...
lemon floppy whorehouse partner
  02/04/16
To be fair, if you just ignore those, there's a probably a 9...
mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy
  02/04/16


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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

She is starting an interior design company and of course has no experience doing it so just grabbed a bunch of pics from blogs etc. Will she get pwned for this?

She also has no educational background in it (not like that matters) but says she got a masters in Copenhagen. I respect the hustle and she has already booked some big clients ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751184)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:35 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

Probably won't get pwned, but is certainly engaging in legally actionable activity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751276)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:24 PM
Author: Flickering Crackhouse

I'm not a lawyer and even I know how bad this is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751201)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:29 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

Explain!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751247)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:32 PM
Author: Flickering Crackhouse

She's putting herself at risk of copyright infringement if anyone notices. She's also screwed if anyone asks for references or info on the work. Why wouldn't she just do a couple of projects at cost for friends to build up a portfolio?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751259)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:34 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

What would be the damages for copyright? Just nominal right? She started this with like 90 bucks to her name after getting divorced. I've known her since we were kids and tbh basically nobody in our generation has money or even owns a place to renovate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751274)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:36 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

Depends on if the copyrights in the photos are registered (and when). If timely registered, could be up to $150,000 statutory damages per photo. Could also be some statutory damages for altering copyright management information, although I haven't looked at that bit of the statute in a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751290)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:38 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

But these pics are all over the web, tumblr pinterest etc if they arent taking them all down isnt she fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751308)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:40 PM
Author: Flickering Crackhouse

Even without the copyright issues, if clients find out isn't that fraud? She's passing these off as her own work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751319)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:42 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

Good point just another way the "system" keeps people down. I think its worth the risk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751333)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

It almost certainly violates FTC regulations. It's almost certainly unfair competition. It's a lot of things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751347)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:47 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

You are a retard. This chick is smart as fuck. She will never be punished for her actions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751361)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:51 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

Wrong. Probably not. Likely so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751401)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:53 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

I guess all that matters is the last sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751412)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

Yeah, I mean a ton of people do stuff they shouldn't and don't get in any sort of trouble for it all the time. That doesn't mean it's a good idea or an advisable risk (even taking out of the equation that fact that doing this sort of thing makes you a kind of shitty person).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751426)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:02 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

1. Intellectual property law does not reflect any kind of morality.

2. The way the juice isn't worth the squeeze is if they throw her in jail. She has no assets now, so the civil law means jack shit. So how is it not an advisable risk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751461)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:07 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

1. I'm talking about intentional deception. That is shitty behavior.

2. The notion that a civil suit won't be a huge pain/detriment/etc. for her because she's poor is fucking retarded. I've represented poor people accused of shit. It sucks for them. And what's the benefit? Is it really that hard to do things legitimately? She's supposed to be "smart as fuck" right? Someone who is smart as fuck can start a business without defrauding people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751501)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 6:16 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

How is anything fraudulent? OP never says she tries to pass off other peoples' stuff as her own. She just features it in her portfolio.

And interior design is some flame "job" so who cares? It is all fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29752924)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 6:17 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29752925)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 6:21 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

"OP never says she tries to pass off other peoples' stuff as her own. She just features it in her portfolio."

WTF? What do you think a portfolio is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29752946)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 8:19 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

It might not explicitly say iy is hers. It might just show styles of stuff she likes to do. Do you think hairdressers only show pictures of haircuts they cut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29753791)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

The "everybody's doing it" defense is not a valid legal defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751339)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:25 PM
Author: Slimy double fault love of her life

would only become an issue if she MAEKS IT, by which time she will have plenty of legit pics.

success is fraudlies and marketing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751210)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:30 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman

Thats what i told her too. She already has like 11k followers on instagram

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751250)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:47 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751363)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:27 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bbw

Pretty unlikely the owners of the pics are going to sue her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751222)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:30 PM
Author: godawful locale sex offender

^ legal opinion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751253)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Pink Ladyboy Haunted Graveyard

mere puffery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751346)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751903)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:45 PM
Author: ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry

I would think your typical established designer would be doing reverse image searches. Stealing and copying designs has always been a problem in the industry and with reverse image search engines it should be easy to spot the copycats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751353)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:48 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

Modify the pics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751369)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:51 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous space patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751396)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:59 PM
Author: ruby thriller step-uncle's house cuckoldry

That's not nearly as easy as you think it is. Look at some of our "Guess that City" threads where OP did significant photoshop work and the reverse image search still found them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751441)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 1:59 PM
Author: sienna flirting people who are hurt

Fraud, unfair competition, IP violations...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751443)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: sienna flirting people who are hurt

Administrative actions if licensed...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751456)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:03 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

She can contract around fraud claims by her clients. Dat no reliance clause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751471)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:08 PM
Author: sienna flirting people who are hurt

No reliance covenant.

Q: Enforceable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751509)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:13 PM
Author: shivering toaster generalized bond

Usually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751545)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:08 PM
Author: Grizzly Curious Public Bath

http://stopstealingphotos.com/

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751508)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 2:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

http://www.youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751533)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 3:09 PM
Author: lemon floppy whorehouse partner

I will lol when one of these images is some getty images licensed pic and the shake down demand letters start rolling in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751829)



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Date: February 4th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling carnelian chapel really tough guy

To be fair, if you just ignore those, there's a probably a 99% chance nothing will happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3118308&forum_id=2#29751898)