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If they could get like Colin Powell or Jon Huntsman or maybe...
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Was literally thinking this the other day - that it's not tr...
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naw, we don't need you--trump will do a series of debates wi...
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Please 180
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So your solution is to essentially run on a Democrat platfor...
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but trump is rich enough to not need donors....other candida...
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nah. 1.) is basically impossible for the republicans. an...
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6) Stop blaming the media. As it relates #1, that's why t...
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lol bro do you even read anything libs ever write? "Mak...
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I'm not talking about appealing to liberals. I'm talking abo...
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Trump could've started his campaign by saying, I want to mak...
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You cannot oppose immigration in any way in 2016 without bei...
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I disagree. I've never seen a Republican talk about immigrat...
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OK, enforcing immigration laws is good because blacks are be...
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Try this... Enforcing immigration laws is good because it...
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But the illegals pulling this crap are targeting black neigh...
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When you say that, it makes you sound like all black people ...
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This isn't just an inner city issue. It is now taking over t...
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I agree, but you can talk about that without talking about r...
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About half, or more, of the illegals are not Mexican. You ca...
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"llegal immigrants and their children are involved in n...
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"Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow ...
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Its fucked up because there's too many people and not enough...
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Essentially the position would be: Former industrial hub...
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That's the truth of the position, but not how it should be p...
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...which nobody will take serious because the Gov't hasn't d...
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government expenditures to the inner city have risen. Take B...
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are you suggesting that the media/academia are not huge asse...
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As long as that's your position on immigration, you'll never...
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why are minority CITIZENS going to feel singled out by restr...
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When you start talking about "certain sects of people&q...
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"The problem is immigration, not the people who are imm...
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Bro, this isn't going to appeal to Black people. Sorry to bu...
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I think it would. There's an underlying tension in the black...
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how did rand paul's groveling "detroit republican"...
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It didn't work because it was perceived as disingenuous. Sup...
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Blacks are not going to vote for any limited govt platform, ...
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I agree. That's why you should talk about efficient governme...
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Bro everyone would see through efficient govt flame and real...
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Not if you back it up with actual policy positions. Like, fo...
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Lol. How do you think they make shit "more efficient&qu...
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This is true.
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(Guy who has never met a black person)
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Non white here. Number 3 alone is why not voting Trump. The...
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You'll never get racism out of the electorate, honestly. But...
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Yes and I would 100% vote for that guy.
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nice, I'd prefer that guy over Trump too especially so I cou...
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As it relates to the voting bloc. The candidate needs to con...
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That guy was called Ronald Reagan and he/his strategists wer...
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Did RR oppose immigration and global capitalism?
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If you don't like living with white people, why do you stay ...
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funny, I have a similar analysis until the very last step. ...
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Dude, you're decribing Jon Huntsman to a key (except he is M...
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Uh, because he is a cuck In June 2007, Huntsman joined ot...
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"Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal ...
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that guy is a fucking cuck and wouldn't have gotten 10% of t...
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minorities vote dem mainly for economic reasons, not because...
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I'm black and I disagree. Republican are perceived as racist...
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That's just icing on the cake.
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how many blacks voted for dole/kemp? jack kemp was a former...
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Black people don't want a "black people lover," th...
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yea, 90%+ of blacks have the same economic interests
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i would also add, supporting a national living wage for law ...
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Rand Paul did everything he could to appeal to blacks and go...
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He didn't stop the local government flame. The libertarian i...
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CR. OP is a retard
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(XO2015) thanks for the insight.
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This seems like a moderate Dem. platform.
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I was actually going to say basically Obama without all the ...
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So, the first to adopt SHITLIB agenda? Got it
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what about what I just said is shitlib? From a historical pe...
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Are you arguing for the OP or me
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Bro, none of that's shitlib.
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i'm always amazed when JJC gets so many people to respond to...
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Credited analysis.
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I like it.
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Explain your criminal justice reform.
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Date: June 24th, 2016 3:32 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Anyone with a brain knows that if Republicans want to be relevant nationally going forward, they need to appeal to minorities. The question is, how do they do this without alienating white people (meaning amnesty, cough cough Rubio, ain't the answer). As a minority dude who would love to vote for Trump but for believing he's a manic, below is what I think a Republican could get black people to buy into.

1) The candidate needs to be non-controversial. Someone like Mitt Romney but not a Mormon.

2) Stop the local government flame. Local government has never been good for minorities and the federal government has always been the white knight. Emphasize EFFICIENT government, not small/local government.

3) Talk about enforcing immigration laws and the border, without tying it to Mexicans/Muslims. Like it our not, you/Trump/Sheriff Joe sounds like a racist. This means border security and deporting people when they are picked up, not SS style round up squads.

4) Stop making issues of non issues at the state level (tranny laws). You look better defending the status qua than being the asshole pushing perceived discriminatory legislation.

5) Push for lower and middle class tax cuts. Fuck rich people. Like literally, fuck them over with the tax code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783355)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 3:36 PM
Author: bisexual bat shit crazy foreskin

Completely agree brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783376)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 3:42 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

If they could get like Colin Powell or Jon Huntsman or maybe even Kasich to re-package Trumps ideas, they could have a Reagan style revolution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783416)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: bisexual bat shit crazy foreskin

Was literally thinking this the other day - that it's not trump's crudeness or un-pc-ness that's appealing to people - it's his policies of secure borders, common sense nationalism, and pro-native trade policies.

So I completely agree if you took a candidate with a lot of charisma, no controversial background, no "racist" comments ever etc., good political skills etc. and sold the ideas in your OP it would be a landslide election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786649)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 10:46 PM
Author: Disturbing floppy base

naw, we don't need you--trump will do a series of debates with jill stein of the green party and gary johnson of the libertarian party, and that will allow them to take some votes from hillary, allowing trump the win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786193)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 12:35 AM
Author: Glassy Misunderstood Station

Please 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786699)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 1:34 AM
Author: opaque magical turdskin

So your solution is to essentially run on a Democrat platform?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787044)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 6:53 AM
Author: Disturbing floppy base

but trump is rich enough to not need donors....other candidates WILL need donors...and will therefore have to conform to the tenets of global capitalism...trump raised his profile via controvery and conflict...other GOP candidates cannot do that because they need donors...

trump is the man...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787516)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 3:57 PM
Author: Startling Karate Abode

nah.

1.) is basically impossible for the republicans. any candidate they trot out will be made controversial by a highly partisan media/academia apparatus completely in the tank for the dems.

2.) dems would easily parry this—"we know big government better than the gopfags because we haven't been trying to demolish it for decades. trust us to make it more efficient". plus, the media/academia complex would just frame efficient government as racist/sexist dog-whistling and say the gop can't be trusted.

3.) so basically have a non-confrontational, anodyne stance on one of the most pressing issues of are time that ensures absolutely nothing is done and the shitty status quo marches on. hehe.

4.) they look like assholes because their actions are so framed by a hostile culture industry.

5.) this is actually credited, but the second to last thing gopfaggot politicians will ever cave on (first being wars for are greatest ally). they love their jerb creators too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783522)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:03 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

6) Stop blaming the media.

As it relates #1, that's why the need someone unassailable. McCain would have worked if he wasn't running against Obama and didn't pick Palin.

As it relates to 3, making the issue immigration instead of actual people should not be "non-controversial." If you want it the other way around, you're an actual racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783554)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: 180 preventive strike

lol bro do you even read anything libs ever write? "Making the issue immigration instead of actual people" means you're a crypto-racist dogwhistler who is only anti-immigration because most of them are nonwhites. There is no such thing as an "unassailable" candidate to advance reasonably conservative positions because libs assail the positions as racist/sexist/whatever and then tie those same attacks to the candidate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783563)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:09 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I'm not talking about appealing to liberals. I'm talking about appealing to black people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783601)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Trump could've started his campaign by saying, I want to make America great for the people all ready here. Until we fix (income inequality, eroding manu base, entitlements, unemployment, etc.), we need to freeze immigration from everywhere.

Instead, MEXICANS ARE RAPIST!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783615)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:15 PM
Author: 180 preventive strike

You cannot oppose immigration in any way in 2016 without being labeled a racist. If you disagree, take a look at any NYT editorial on the subject within the past 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783631)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I disagree. I've never seen a Republican talk about immigration without tying it to Mexicans, welfare, religion, speaking English, crime, etc.

Stop talking about why immigration is bad and start talking about why enforcing immigration laws is good for the people already here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783641)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:31 PM
Author: Orange unholy idiot tanning salon

OK, enforcing immigration laws is good because blacks are being chased at gunpoint out of their historic neighborhoods throughout southern California. And North Carolina. And Georgia. And Texas. This is being allowed to happen on purpose by white liberals who do not respect you.

Enforcing immigration laws is also good because US citizens are dying due to a heroin epidemic that is sweeping over the entire country. Every single law enforcement officer can tell you exactly where this garbage is coming from.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783716)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:33 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Try this...

Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow the flood of immigrants into inner cities, which leaves more money and resources for the current residents of those neighborhoods. Less crowded schools, better public transportation, more housing.

See how I didn't mention race at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783728)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:35 PM
Author: Orange unholy idiot tanning salon

But the illegals pulling this crap are targeting black neighborhoods. They are abusing programs that black voters fought to have implemented. Illegal immigrants and their children are involved in numerous hate crimes against blacks.

This is happening in the rural and suburban south, too, not just inner cities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783733)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:36 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

When you say that, it makes you sound like all black people care about is welfare etc etc. Just don't mention race asshole. Why is that so difficult to understand? Talk about the issue. If someone brings up race, just say, "I'm talking about inner city problems, regardless of the race of the person encountering those problems."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783741)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:38 PM
Author: Orange unholy idiot tanning salon

This isn't just an inner city issue. It is now taking over the entire country. Black voters support a variety of programs other than just welfare cash transfer payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783746)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:40 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I agree, but you can talk about that without talking about race or singling out "illegals" which we all know is code for Mexicans. Just say that immigration is bad for the country. Here's why...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783759)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:51 PM
Author: Orange unholy idiot tanning salon

About half, or more, of the illegals are not Mexican. You can also think immigration is just fine and cut the legal allowed level anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783834)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:53 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

"llegal immigrants and their children are involved in numerous hate crimes against blacks."

Please stop pushing this flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783841)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

"Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow the flood of immigrants into inner cities, which leaves more money and resources for the current residents of those neighborhoods. Less crowded schools, better public transportation, more housing."

Nobody who actually LIVES in inner cities will believe this because you are making it sound like the immigrants are the REASON inner cities are shitty in the first place.

You are opening yourself to a whole new host of arguments because you don't know WHY the inner city is FUCKED UP in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783839)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:59 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Its fucked up because there's too many people and not enough resources. The solution is less people and more resources. The race of those excess people doesn't matter. For some reason, Republicans want to harp on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783869)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:01 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

Essentially the position would be:

Former industrial hubs like Detroit and Flint wouldn't be so shitty if we had less illegals in them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783883)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:03 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

That's the truth of the position, but not how it should be presented.

Its presented as..."Let's make these places better for the people already here before we start bringing in more people."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783897)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

...which nobody will take serious because the Gov't hasn't done enough to make them "better" in the past 30 years.

So how is immigration reform supposed to helpe "revitalize" Flint, Michigan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783906)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:11 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

government expenditures to the inner city have risen. Take Baltimore for example. The issue is efficiency of the use of that money. You'll get more efficient use if you have less people.

"Part of the problem, unsurprisingly, is that the city does not make very good use of the money it receives."

http://www.newsweek.com/baltimore-burning-its-not-matter-money-we-tried-329515

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783944)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: Startling Karate Abode

are you suggesting that the media/academia are not huge assets for the dems due to their strong ideological biases (see haidt's work on the subject)? to ignore this fact would be absurd from a dispassionate, strategy-oriented viewpoint. it's simply something the gopd00ds have to deal with.

also i disagree that mccain was unassailable or that obama was a particularly strong candidate. there was plenty of dirt on mccain and the chattering classes portrayed him as a senile warmonger that would bring in 4 more years of bu$$$hitler. dubya's shitty legacy meant that an empty suit could have won on the democratic ticket—and one did!

and as far as immigration goes, at some point a sane migration policy is going to have to confront the issue that certain sets of people (be they socio-economic classes or cultural groups) have little place in the united states. if this is racist, then so be it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783639)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

As long as that's your position on immigration, you'll never win over minorities. As most minorities don't fit the statistics that support your position and thus they'll feel unjustly singled out. Yeah, latinos might be more inclined to be on welfare etc etc, but I bet more AREN'T, than are. So the question is, how do you appeal to those who arent? It sure ain't by making sweeping generalizations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783654)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:36 PM
Author: Startling Karate Abode

why are minority CITIZENS going to feel singled out by restrictions on who can come into this country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783742)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:39 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

When you start talking about "certain sects of people" it just brings up the undertones of the generalizations that whites have made about blacks/latinos forever. People don't want to be treated as a monolith and they'll resist any policy based on treating other people as a monolith. Just address their issues without making sweeping racial generalizations. The problem is immigration, not the people who are immigrating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783750)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: Startling Karate Abode

"The problem is immigration, not the people who are immigrating."

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783773)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Spectacular trailer park twinkling uncleanness

Bro, this isn't going to appeal to Black people. Sorry to burst your bubble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783565)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:09 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I think it would. There's an underlying tension in the black community with the democratic party. By and large, blacks are with the ultra liberal social policies nor do they benefit from globalism. The problem is, Republicans tinge all their ideas with a hint of racism which is the ultimate sin for black people so basically, black will never vote Republican until they figure out a way to divorce the message from racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783594)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: citrine dog poop

how did rand paul's groveling "detroit republican"/giving speeches at howard/volunteering in haiti/etc. campaign work out in terms of attracting black voters, by the way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783668)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:28 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

It didn't work because it was perceived as disingenuous. Support policies which help people like me, don't just start showing up at HBCUs and community events than go back to pushing for small government bs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783698)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:37 PM
Author: vigorous pearl plaza stain

Blacks are not going to vote for any limited govt platform, period. Do you know how many of them are govt workers? It's insane. That would be like you voting for your company to downsize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783743)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:41 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I agree. That's why you should talk about efficient government. A government that works for the people and saves everyone money.

Not limited government. Not small government. Not local government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783767)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: vigorous pearl plaza stain

Bro everyone would see through efficient govt flame and realize it's just the buzzword for cutting budgets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783776)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:45 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Not if you back it up with actual policy positions. Like, for instance, giving school districts MORE money if they both increase test scores and spend less than 95% of budget over a 5 year period. That's about efficiency, not small/local government.

Instead of "we want local control over our schools..." Sorry, but no black person wants white people making decisions at a local level. It has never worked out well for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783792)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 6:49 AM
Author: lilac alpha

Lol. How do you think they make shit "more efficient" you stupid mba faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787514)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:54 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

This is true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783847)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:37 PM
Author: Spectacular trailer park twinkling uncleanness

(Guy who has never met a black person)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786376)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: effete kink-friendly house partner

Non white here. Number 3 alone is why not voting Trump. There is a legitimate economic self interest argument for limiting immigration. However, the way so many alt right types seem to have a visceral disgust for minorities is a complete turn off

It's really fucking sad we might have to consider joining the globalists against the Nationalists, I never thought I'd find a group I despise more than globalists

I'm stuck with this social justice warrior 60 hour work week corporate bullshit because the Trumptards turned out to be even bigger faggots, and that's a huge feat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783613)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:13 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783618)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: Aromatic frum factory reset button

You'll never get racism out of the electorate, honestly. But you want a candidate who doesn't stoke them but still vies for their votes and patronage? You'd vote for that guy? (This is just curiosity about whether it's the candidates or his voting bloc that makes you more resistant)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783643)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Yes and I would 100% vote for that guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783664)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: Aromatic frum factory reset button

nice, I'd prefer that guy over Trump too especially so I could wear a maga hat without fear of getting jumped or fired, but Trump's what we've got for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783672)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

As it relates to the voting bloc. The candidate needs to confront the racism in his bloc while still defending the issues. Meaning..."you David Duke, fuck off you're a racist, I don't want your vote." Now anyone who believes in XYZ but isn't a racist, lets roll. Kinda like McCain did with the "he's an arab" lady. (though he let that shit festure for a long time before putting a stop to it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783691)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:09 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Forum

That guy was called Ronald Reagan and he/his strategists were geniuses at doing exactly this and it changed the course of American history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783931)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 10:19 PM
Author: Aromatic frum factory reset button

Did RR oppose immigration and global capitalism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786092)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783851)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: Glassy Misunderstood Station

If you don't like living with white people, why do you stay in the US?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786765)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 6:13 AM
Author: Provocative onyx principal's office candlestick maker

funny, I have a similar analysis until the very last step.

alt-righters are often angry and crass, but they aren't evil globalists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787506)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: Supple know-it-all box office skinny woman

Dude, you're decribing Jon Huntsman to a key (except he is Mormy). But xo just calls him a cuck and moves on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783669)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:26 PM
Author: 180 preventive strike

Uh, because he is a cuck

In June 2007, Huntsman joined other Western governors in urging the Senate to pass comprehensive immigration reform.[105] In 2005, Huntsman signed a bill giving undocumented migrants access to "driving-privilege cards", which allowed them to have driving privileges but unlike driver licenses, cannot be used for identification purposes.[106] As governor, Huntsman threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.[107]

Huntsman has stated support for a border fence, saying that, "as an American, the thought of a fence to some extent repulses me ... but the situation is such that I don't think we have a choice."[108] In the September 9 CNN GOP debate, Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal immigration, claiming that it will revive America's housing market, citing Vancouver's quickly growing real estate market as evidence.[109] Huntsman also supports granting more H-1B visas to foreigners.[110]

Huntsman supported the DREAM Act which proposed a path to citizenship for young people brought to the United States by their parents illegally.[111]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783680)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:32 PM
Author: Startling Karate Abode

"Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal immigration, claiming that it will revive America's housing market, citing Vancouver's quickly growing real estate market as evidence."

ahahaha, gas this boomer ass slave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783723)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:54 PM
Author: lilac alpha

that guy is a fucking cuck and wouldn't have gotten 10% of the black vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783850)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: citrine dog poop

minorities vote dem mainly for economic reasons, not because the other party is "rathith."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783675)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:30 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I'm black and I disagree. Republican are perceived as racist and they do nothing to try to correct that image. In fact, they try to live up to the image.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783711)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:37 PM
Author: vigorous pearl plaza stain

That's just icing on the cake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783745)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:49 PM
Author: citrine dog poop

how many blacks voted for dole/kemp? jack kemp was a former football player who spent most of his life groveling toward blacks for various reasons. he was much more of a black-people-lover than bill clinton was, that's for sure.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783823)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Black people don't want a "black people lover," they want people who support policies which benefit them. If we just wanted a black people lover, we'd support Ben Carson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783838)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: lilac alpha

yea, 90%+ of blacks have the same economic interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783855)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: Stimulating home

i would also add, supporting a national living wage for law abiding citizens and legal residents who work full-time jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783687)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:29 PM
Author: racy doctorate

Rand Paul did everything he could to appeal to blacks and got absolutely nowhere.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783702)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:34 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

He didn't stop the local government flame. The libertarian ideology is not appealing to black so he's the wrong guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783730)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

Very true.

Part of that is because he didn't have the support of the GOP while courting blacks.

It's hard to convince blacks, "Hey, I'm a good guy! Don't worry about the rest of my party!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783891)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:03 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783899)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:29 PM
Author: Orange unholy idiot tanning salon

Nah, but thanks for the suggestions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783703)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:46 PM
Author: obsidian mind-boggling roommate

CR. OP is a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783795)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:47 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

(XO2015)

thanks for the insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783808)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:49 PM
Author: obsidian mind-boggling roommate

Why would I waste my time explaining why you're a retard when you won't get it anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783822)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:40 PM
Author: bateful aggressive space

This seems like a moderate Dem. platform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783758)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

I was actually going to say basically Obama without all the liberal social policies but figured mentioning Obama would derail the thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783779)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:48 PM
Author: plum territorial center

So, the first to adopt SHITLIB agenda? Got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783816)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:51 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

what about what I just said is shitlib? From a historical perspective, if you remove all the social stuff (gay rights, trannys, etc.) Obama is a moderate republican. now, if you just don't like niggers (the reason you probably hate Obama) cool, but enjoy losing elections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783829)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: plum territorial center

Ur an idiot. Ur entire argument is that to win, republicans need to become shitlibs.

Also, ur just dead wrong, starting with ur first point. trump is extremely controversial, but is neck and neck with Clinton. You really think a dude like Romney would fare better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783857)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

No, my argument is that to win, Republicans need to run a non-controversial candidate that presents conservative views in a more moderate fashion.

Trump is going to get rolled by Hillary in the electoral college. If you don't believe that, there's no hope for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783889)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:24 PM
Author: charismatic mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#35633895)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

If you took out his "controversial" statements, then you wouldn't have a Trump since his entire wave of success is b/c of his controversial proposals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783902)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 10:39 PM
Author: plum territorial center

Are you arguing for the OP or me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786169)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:32 PM
Author: Exciting hilarious library

Bro, none of that's shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784068)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: Smoky Dilemma Wrinkle

i'm always amazed when JJC gets so many people to respond to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783836)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: Exciting hilarious library

These could all probably be done. I personally disagree with you extensively on #2 -- letting people have a certain degree of self-determination and locally tailored policy is what makes a country as large and diverse as the U.S. work -- but even it could be pushed into a nationalist platform over my personal objections. It strikes me as one of those issues/concepts that GOP cucks have always thought their base really wanted, but really they're not that into it. (We've been finding a lot of those over the past year!)

Would love to see #5 happen, but, prior to TRUMP, this was literally the hallmark issue of the GOP, and it'd take purging all the cuckies embedded at all levels of government to make it happen.

The racism stuff is obviously a big issue. But nationalism has appeal to racists (the fit is greater in Europe than here, since we have a genuine multi-racial society here, but still), who amplify that tinge when they promote the movement, and a lot of politicians don't want to condemn it too hard when it's in dog-whistle form b/c, frankly, we'd like the votes. Media also amplifies this aspect, not so much out of bias/hatred for nationalism (our media is *really* incompetent, way too much so for that) as out of its natural tendency to amplify controversial aspects of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783837)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

These are good points and I agree with the reason regarding why the racism exists in the politics but believe someone needs to and can transcend the dog whistle.

As it relates to #2, I think this countries history prevents local government from ever being appealing to minorities. Hell, even recently, the Texas education board tried to refer to slavery as an "african migration." And when I was growing up, we had books which referred to the "War of Northern Aggression." That's what you get with local control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783861)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 1:05 AM
Author: Glassy Misunderstood Station

We get it. You are Oriental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786884)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:06 PM
Author: pea-brained naked striped hyena heaven

"and a lot of politicians don't want to condemn it too hard when it's in dog-whistle form b/c, frankly, we'd like the votes"

Ding-Ding-fucking-Ding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783913)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 5:37 PM
Author: Exciting hilarious library

This has been standard operating procedure for the GOP at least since the ideological party realignment was finalized in the 1960s. I despise, e.g., Paul Ryan, but I honestly doubt the dude has a racist bone in his body. I'm sure that if there were racial strife in his district, though, he would make damn sure not to alienate white racist voters (aside from the tiny number of extreme losers who join the KKK or call in to radio stations to use the n-word or whatever).

There's no reason a nationalist party has to be that way, and it should in theory be easier to avoid here than in europe since blacks are actual Americans (even virulent racists don't deny that) and they're actually quite influential in the culture (music, film, sports... POTUS). But given that the two molds we'd be working from are (1) the husk of the old GOP infrastructure and (2) the pattern of already-developed european movements, we'll probably just fall into what's easiest and periodically wink to white racists rather than try to win a multi-year courtship with blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784085)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 7:09 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage

Credited analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784603)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: lilac alpha

go fuck yourself JJC. seriously go fuck yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783859)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 10:55 PM
Author: curious abusive pocket flask old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786226)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:00 PM
Author: Insanely creepy sound barrier

To be successful, the GOP needs a singular, resonant message. Trump is trying nationalism. It's a bold move; let's see how this plays out.

I think individualism is a strong one. It can be traced through most of Republican history and it allows ample opportunity to paint the Democrats as racist for lumping all people of color together and taking them for granted. It also provides opportunity to call out SJWs for trampling on individuals' rights of free speech. They can champion criminal justice reform, tax reform, Second Amendment rights, repeal of affirmative action policies, welfare reform, etc. all by appealing to the dignity of the individual.

"Democrats call me racist for being against amnesty. But I don't think we should be lumping all immigrants together. Some immigrants came here through hard work and played by the rules. Some immigrants came here because they were duped by coyotes and trafficked here. And unfortunately some came here by violating the security of the nation where they sought shelter. Those few who broke the law need to be punished, and those who didn't need to be offered the chance to integrate into the greatest country on earth. Democrats want blanket rules for all immigrants or all Latin Americans. Democrats want to attack the individual dignity of our hardworking immigrants. I can't think of anything more racist than that."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786238)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:32 PM
Author: alcoholic cream parlour

I like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786357)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 1:07 AM
Author: Glassy Misunderstood Station

Explain your criminal justice reform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786899)



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Date: June 25th, 2016 12:34 AM
Author: Glassy Misunderstood Station

Nobody is in favor of local governments. What are you smoking? States can be very efficient, but cities are always shitholes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786695)