Go down to the Valley and after the interminable multi hour wait in deadlocked traffic you're treated to strip malls and the spendor of repeated rows of identical office parks splashed with technology portmanteaus denoting company names. Set behind in backdrop is the sun beating on down dull brown brush and barren hills.

Oh yeah did I mention the traffic is soul crushing and rents/property costs are otherwordly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31305814)

ZENDESK!

SPLUNK!

SALESFORCE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31308489)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#34333000)

I'd rather cheat on my GF with internet porn at my overpriced hotel near Moscone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31305910)

Denver would be 180 I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31305848)

How do you feel about Madison and Ann Arbor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306042)

I expect Madison to be pretty awesome. Ann Arbor less so given all the new yorkers I know that went to Michigan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306076)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31714710)

Madison >>> Ann Arbor because it's a much bigger city. Ann Arbor would be a cow town without the school. Madison at least has the state capitol so it have a pulse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31715463)

Both of them entered the NCAA tournament undefeated as freshmen. Heskett lost in the SF, finishing 3rd, and Cael won en route to 159-0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306317)

Yes people have been predicting recession for a while but Central Banks are doing their best to stave it off. We will see how long it can last. If you're assertion is that a recession will never happen again, well you're going to be just as mistaken as Zero Hedgers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306044)

Those $4M shit houses in the valley? Good luck

Those VC backed startups with gleaming new office space burning cash like crazy? Good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306089)

as in the foreign buyers will panic sell? why would they do that -- will they be moving their wealth back to russia and china?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306187)

Half my net worth is tied up in it (although that's mostly gains from a prior sale), so I'm hopeful but not exactly spending it yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31306308)

Not buying property here is actually a mistake. I'm so far ahead of peers who didn't buy when stuff was low in 2010-2011 or so. It could lose a third of its value, I guess, but it's always bounced back and even then, I'm in a house enjoying a yard and a real neighborhood while they're still worried about rent increases, etc. in their mid-30s. It's expensive and I definitely gulped when signing away almost all of my non-401(k) assets for the initial down payment, but it's doable if you prioritize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31307143)

If you're not willing to play the SF/SV game, then I agree that this is no place to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31307213)

http://jenniferrosdail.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/new-case-shiller-index-for-san-francisco-metro-area-3.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31307309)

it mocks a lot of the stuff you're talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31576128)

so while you all avoid this place or freeze up because the hills are brown or there's piss in the streets, we were busy maxing it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31714878)

http://jenniferrosdail.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/new-case-shiller-index-for-san-francisco-metro-area-3.jpg

The analogy of your personal anecdote is me buying big into the market early in this bull market and believing I'm an investing God

Enjoy spending all the money you save to send your kids to the Menlo School because ljl at the public schools around you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31714922)

As the adage goes, buy when there is blood in the streets

But don't now turn around and tell people that it's fine and dandy to spend a million plus for a shithole in sunnyvale and work for some delivery startup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31714955)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#35393272)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31715290)

i don't see what the counterargument is. avoid SV and start off in ARE COUNTRY where you remain forever some good ol' boy's bitch and maybe make the salary in 30 years that you can take with you from SV after 7-10?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31715465)

aside from myself, i know many people in SV who have done this. having to wait 4-5 years to get in-house is fairly typical, but things can blossom fairly rapidly thereafter if you're good at what you do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31715603)

People having kids dont want to live in overpriced shitholes and companies want cheaper labor

No reason programmers etc need to physically be in SV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31714997)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#31715358)

Weather is nice today at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3337538&forum_id=2#35393262)