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should i quit my $75k shitlaw gig for this sales gig (hourly + commission)

$15/hr + $200 commission for each client that I bring in. Th...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
Lmao poor ass
aphrodisiac abnormal half-breed senate
  10/21/16
pls advice, counsel
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
Go out with a bang.
Racy chartreuse stag film
  10/21/16
ty
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
*fwds thread to rbi*
comical nighttime pistol
  10/22/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
What industry?
Sienna state hominid
  10/21/16
real estate
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
Why not just become real estate agent / broker?
Sienna state hominid
  10/21/16
that's my goal. they said they will need real estate agents ...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
In m any states you can become a licenced broker very easily...
Sienna state hominid
  10/21/16
i don't know how to get clients tho... that's why i'm intere...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
CR
Sienna state hominid
  10/21/16
...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
You can be trained and conditioned to do all of those things...
dull lay
  10/25/16
You don't make any sense
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
You close with women, in social situations, when convincing ...
dull lay
  10/25/16
You sound like you've never been in sales cause you simply s...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
I was in sales. I sold enterprise CRM. Carried a $750k quota...
dull lay
  10/25/16
50 to 100 cold calls is very little ... I made 200+ per day ...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
Lol are you in Banglore or something. IDK what my problem wa...
dull lay
  10/25/16
Why should you feel bad that you fucked over a prospect? You...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
is this for an in-patient drug rehab facility?
glassy idiotic legal warrant
  10/21/16
no
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
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Hairraiser pisswyrm
  10/21/16
Do both at the same time
Brass School Doctorate
  10/21/16
lol
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
If you run the #s it's about a $10,000 difference, if all yo...
Floppy Sound Barrier Den
  10/21/16
so worth it or not?
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
If you're good at sales take a look at Primerica. It's a...
jet-lagged cyan scourge upon the earth pervert
  10/21/16
"As of 2016, it reported 107,000 independent representa...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
Also lYou either have a sales personality or you don't. A lo...
puce cerebral water buffalo
  10/21/16
the person telling you about this opportunity is lying to yo...
Spectacular location voyeur
  10/21/16
that's just sales, bro. You have to prove that you can sell ...
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/21/16
(Guy who worked for AT&T)
comical nighttime pistol
  10/22/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/22/16
Looks like you have made up your mind. Go forth and sell.
Harsh appetizing parlor therapy
  10/22/16
But but but sunk cost fallacy. ... Eh, lawyer still gets...
Canary hell party of the first part
  10/22/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/22/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/22/16
Do it
sexy immigrant bawdyhouse
  10/22/16
I GOT THE JOB:) !!!!
Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/24/16
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Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary
  10/25/16
What are you selling
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:09 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

$15/hr + $200 commission for each client that I bring in. The average sales rep brings in 1 client per day. And there is room for growth in this gig.

Currently, I work 50-60 hours per day at shitlaw and I deal w terrible, terrible people.

I'm only 27-29 years old.

Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696979)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:09 PM
Author: aphrodisiac abnormal half-breed senate

Lmao poor ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696983)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:10 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

pls advice, counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696994)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:10 PM
Author: Racy chartreuse stag film

Go out with a bang.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696991)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:13 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697014)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:26 PM
Author: comical nighttime pistol

*fwds thread to rbi*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705193)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697284)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697331)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:58 PM
Author: Sienna state hominid

What industry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697373)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

real estate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697463)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:08 PM
Author: Sienna state hominid

Why not just become real estate agent / broker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697474)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:14 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

that's my goal. they said they will need real estate agents w license once their firm starts to grow since it only started a couple months ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697530)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:18 PM
Author: Sienna state hominid

In m any states you can become a licenced broker very easily if you're an attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697578)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:20 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

i don't know how to get clients tho... that's why i'm interested in this job since they provide the training to get clients. i figure once i master the art of cold calling, prospecting, closing at this place, then becoming licensed broker will be much more reasonable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697609)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: Sienna state hominid

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697615)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:26 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31698101)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:02 PM
Author: dull lay

You can be trained and conditioned to do all of those things. But if you are already doing all of those things in your day to day life (but calling them something else), the training only has limited utility. Everything is sales. If you don't, you will hit a ceiling and be wasting your time. Some people are closers. Others are not. If you have any doubt that you are a closer, my guess is you are not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726780)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:12 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

You don't make any sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726864)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:17 PM
Author: dull lay

You close with women, in social situations, when convincing a cop not to write you a ticket... You probably close even in shitlaw. If you can't close now, you probably will never be able to close consistently. Some of it is luck. Some people even make their own luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726915)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:19 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

You sound like you've never been in sales cause you simply spit out platitudes about sales that you probably learned from the YouTube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726937)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:21 PM
Author: dull lay

I was in sales. I sold enterprise CRM. Carried a $750k quota I never met. I made 50 to 100 cold calls a day. Gave about three product demos a day. And did my follow ups. I usually worked from 8 am to 7 pm every day of the week, except weekends. I lasted two years. I am not a closer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726955)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

50 to 100 cold calls is very little ... I made 200+ per day while working for an SEO company 7am-4pm ... You probably don't sound confident on the phone or you were too slow to respond to a prospect's objections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726989)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:29 PM
Author: dull lay

Lol are you in Banglore or something. IDK what my problem was. Mostly I didn't believe in the product/the company. I felt bad when I closed a deal because I just fucked someone over really hard and I knew the implementation team would come knocking on my door after I sold vaporware. Glad that shit is over. Anyway, the job you are considering sounds bad. Just get law firm clients instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727020)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:33 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

Why should you feel bad that you fucked over a prospect? Your job is to sell; their job is to buy. You did your job better than them. If they had the chance to fuck over the salesman on the deal, you don't think they'd do it? Of course they will. If the prospect feels like they got screwed, they're idiots. The prospect has absolute control. They can leave, hang up, any time.

And why is the job in the OP bad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727062)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:01 PM
Author: glassy idiotic legal warrant

is this for an in-patient drug rehab facility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697410)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697464)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:22 PM
Author: Hairraiser pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31698057)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:02 PM
Author: Brass School Doctorate

Do both at the same time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697418)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:16 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697560)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:08 PM
Author: Floppy Sound Barrier Den

If you run the #s it's about a $10,000 difference, if all your assumptions remain true. And I'm guessing you're overly optimistic in at least some places (or what's being represented to you about # of commissions on average is somewhat overly optimistic)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697469)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:18 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

so worth it or not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697585)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: jet-lagged cyan scourge upon the earth pervert

If you're good at sales take a look at Primerica.

It's a MLM but one of the more legit ones and you sell insurance and financial products to losers/old people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697618)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:29 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

"As of 2016, it reported 107,000 independent representatives." -- from wiki

ehhh fuck that... if i were to do an MLM i would want to do one that just started out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697689)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:35 PM
Author: puce cerebral water buffalo

Also lYou either have a sales personality or you don't. A lot of that is dealing with people - not just in a "networking" capacity, but actually getting people to sign on the dotted line -- and rainmaking.

Lawyers go into sales because they think they can game the "metrics" portion of it - make X number of cold calls in a given day to potential clients (or whatever), and some of these will land. Grunt work is a lot of it, but there are a lot of hardworking salesmen who can't crack $100k/year.

In my experience, lawyers are usually very good at selling to existing clients, or to potential clients that someone else identified. They are terrible at identifying the potential clients in the first place. If this sales company just wants you to go to their database of existing and former and potential clients and sell to them, you could make $.

But if you need to actually go out and rainmake - you could be in a world of pain if you don't have a pre-existing network set up that you can tap into.

Also look at positioning - does the company have a strong enough industry name that people will listen to its sales reps, i.e. can a bum off the street read a basic script and still close deals based on the strength of the company and product?

Also, is the base salary a true base, or is it a "draw" that you have to pay back from commissions? If it's the latter - that's a very easy way to go broke while you continue to fish for the great white whale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697727)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:41 PM
Author: Spectacular location voyeur

the person telling you about this opportunity is lying to you. the hours will be worse and the pay even shittier, unless you happen to be insanely talented. most places that hire low-level sales people try to lure as many in with promises of high income potential and then weed out all the mediocre performers(the vast majority).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697789)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:20 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

that's just sales, bro. You have to prove that you can sell otherwise what's the point of you staying there? if i can sell w them, then id have more leeway w pay & hours. if i cant sell, then im out.

all top sales bros start off like this. you expect a company to pay you top dollar in a high-ranking position simply b/c of your degree and experience? LJL bro. sell or be sold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31698040)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:26 PM
Author: comical nighttime pistol

(Guy who worked for AT&T)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705195)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 10:51 AM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31702794)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 11:37 AM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703008)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 11:44 AM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703027)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:01 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703066)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:41 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703209)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703258)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:55 PM
Author: Harsh appetizing parlor therapy

Looks like you have made up your mind. Go forth and sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703272)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 1:04 PM
Author: Canary hell party of the first part

But but but sunk cost fallacy. ...

Eh, lawyer still gets more respect than salesman. Maybe not much, but some.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703322)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726756)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 2:16 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703688)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:09 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705067)



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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:32 PM
Author: sexy immigrant bawdyhouse

Do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705239)



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Date: October 24th, 2016 7:44 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary

I GOT THE JOB:) !!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31718294)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:40 PM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727144)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:47 PM
Author: Slate box office nibblets

What are you selling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727227)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 8:31 AM
Author: Tripping twinkling uncleanness sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31729480)