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How do you tell an associate to pad their time without saying it?

It is clear we have an associate who is using a timer, and a...
lascivious theater
  10/25/16
Give her an assignment and tell her to be very thorough and ...
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  10/25/16
I've told her that the client doesn't care about costs and j...
lascivious theater
  10/25/16
"everything diligenced as much as possible." Lol t...
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  10/25/16
juice her hours on your end
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My boss does this on occasion. He will also lecture me on &...
chocolate lay rigpig
  10/26/16
That lecture sounds like a pretty effective way to do what O...
Plum affirmative action hall
  10/26/16
Yes but he already knows I'm ok with it and I know what he's...
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  10/26/16
Ask her to be very thorough on this assignment. Ask her to t...
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Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant
  10/25/16
if she is the type of person who uses a timer she isn't goin...
Maroon Stirring Internal Respiration
  12/06/16
Tell her to be very thorough, make sure she covers all bases...
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  10/25/16
"Are you sure that you're recording all your time for t...
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solid.
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green den
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CR. Also approach it from the other angle: "I'm going ...
disrespectful coffee pot property
  10/25/16
she sounds really obtuse though
Deep Address
  10/25/16
This is the correct answer
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  10/25/16
CR. I might follow that up with a specific reminder that a ...
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green den
  10/25/16
CR
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Underhanded Marketing Idea
  10/25/16
you just say it. stop beating around the bush!
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Deep Address
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Also CR.
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Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant
  10/25/16
Lol, just steal her unbilled hours for yourself.
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Orchid aromatic spot
  12/06/16
Start by discussing "gray areas" of billing and ho...
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  10/25/16
love it
Underhanded Marketing Idea
  10/26/16
"you're clearly misusing your timer and not being dilig...
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  10/25/16
lol @ law
obsidian comical trust fund roast beef
  10/25/16
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Cerebral bat shit crazy center
  10/25/16
Really shameful tbh
Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant
  10/25/16
serious q: who the fuck uses a timer when billing? jfc.
Cerebral bat shit crazy center
  10/25/16
1st year retards
Crawly Bawdyhouse
  10/25/16
the thought makes me want to vomit.
Cerebral bat shit crazy center
  10/25/16
It does, but on the other end I've been getting pretty reckl...
Crawly Bawdyhouse
  10/25/16
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Deep Address
  10/25/16
Do most associates not use their timers?
abusive weed whacker
  10/26/16
Just take the bill and go over each entry. Increase some ent...
Crawly Bawdyhouse
  10/25/16
send him an email
laughsome smoky volcanic crater
  10/25/16
"BUFFER" great term to incorporate into your every...
big messiness
  10/25/16
work carefully. client is not cost sensitive and wants us to...
splenetic umber step-uncle's house hominid
  10/25/16
jfc. tell her not to use a timer and to try recalling how m...
Deep Address
  10/25/16
"be fair to yourself when recording time"
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  10/25/16
"index" time spent on the matter by just upping th...
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  10/25/16
mention how everyone else does it: make it up on the 30th
Scarlet cracking church building
  10/25/16
Padding seems a lot easier in lit. Girls generally under...
Wonderful mexican
  10/25/16
Take her stupid timer away for starters
seedy chad police squad
  10/26/16
A timer can be useful and is not counter to padding.
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  10/26/16
i'm currently picturing a mousy 20something in an ill-fittin...
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:42 PM
Author: lascivious theater

It is clear we have an associate who is using a timer, and accordingly, her time is about 30% lower than it would normally be. How do I get her to stop doing that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723168)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM
Author: Fishy submissive box office pistol

Give her an assignment and tell her to be very thorough and that if she has to reread and edit her brief 3 times to be thorough that's OK and that the client is not concerned about costs as much as thoroughness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723229)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: lascivious theater

I've told her that the client doesn't care about costs and just wants to everything diligenced as much as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723291)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:21 PM
Author: ivory slippery state

"everything diligenced as much as possible." Lol tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727953)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM
Author: ruddy spectacular twinkling uncleanness plaza

juice her hours on your end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723173)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM
Author: marvelous selfie windowlicker

(managing partner at Bendini, Lambert & Locke)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723207)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: beta trailer park codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723293)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: chocolate lay rigpig

My boss does this on occasion. He will also lecture me on "losing time" and undervaluing my work product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732801)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:59 PM
Author: Plum affirmative action hall

That lecture sounds like a pretty effective way to do what OP's asking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732825)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: chocolate lay rigpig

Yes but he already knows I'm ok with it and I know what he's saying. The OP's associate might take it to mean she isn't billing effectively enough and become even more married to the timer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732835)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM
Author: Thirsty nursing home blood rage

Ask her to be very thorough on this assignment. Ask her to triple check her work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723176)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:05 PM
Author: Fragrant school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723711)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:26 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727990)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: Maroon Stirring Internal Respiration

if she is the type of person who uses a timer she isn't going to catch onto this. she will probably literally triple check her work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071002)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM
Author: glittery erotic jew

Tell her to be very thorough, make sure she covers all bases, client is not cost conscious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723181)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:44 PM
Author: Bisexual business firm deer antler

"Are you sure that you're recording all your time for this? Some of your time seems a bit lower than I would expect for these tasks. Your efficiency is great, but please make sure that you're not cheating yourself! I want to make sure that you're getting credit for all of your great work on this."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723184)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM
Author: Cerebral bat shit crazy center

solid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723205)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM
Author: obsidian comical trust fund roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723224)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:52 PM
Author: green den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724649)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: disrespectful coffee pot property

CR. Also approach it from the other angle: "I'm going to take a look at our utilization rate at the end of the month. If it turns out we have the capacity, I'd like for us to write a business development article on (mind-numbingly arcane topic) with (nightmare partner)."

It will quickly develop that you don't have the capacity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723244)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: Deep Address

she sounds really obtuse though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723763)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: Mind-boggling violent gay wizard

This is the correct answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723685)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM
Author: Elite Dog Poop Station

CR. I might follow that up with a specific reminder that a timer is a great tool, but might not always capture all the time spent working on an assignment, and so she should be sure to make the appropriate adjustments. Then wink really slowly and deliberately with one eye.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723854)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:18 PM
Author: Maroon Stirring Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071010)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:53 PM
Author: green den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724653)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM
Author: Judgmental Native Crotch

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727983)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM
Author: Underhanded Marketing Idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727984)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: contagious garnet partner piazza

you just say it. stop beating around the bush!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723191)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: pea-brained telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723198)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:50 PM
Author: federal wild shrine cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723220)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:52 PM
Author: Fishy submissive box office pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723232)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:02 PM
Author: trip magical home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723692)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Deep Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723825)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM
Author: Elite Dog Poop Station

Also CR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723860)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727996)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: rusted stock car

Lol, just steal her unbilled hours for yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723199)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: marvelous selfie windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723213)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:48 PM
Author: Orchid aromatic spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070721)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:47 PM
Author: marvelous selfie windowlicker

Start by discussing "gray areas" of billing and how the associate should resolve these gray areas in favor of billing more. The classic example of this is rounding up. Once the associate acknowledges the propriety of this, move on to double billing during travel. When you are confident the associate is on board with this, introduce the concept of "billing the product" when you reuse work product from other cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723202)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 12:52 AM
Author: Underhanded Marketing Idea

love it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728561)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM
Author: slimy ebony resort giraffe

"you're clearly misusing your timer and not being diligent in recording your work. such deficiencies could lead the client to question our billing due to your negligence. please record ALL your time. we assume this is the only and last time this topic will be mentioned. Thanks :)"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723210)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM
Author: obsidian comical trust fund roast beef

lol @ law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723228)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: Cerebral bat shit crazy center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723296)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Immigrant

Really shameful tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728002)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:04 PM
Author: Cerebral bat shit crazy center

serious q: who the fuck uses a timer when billing? jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723303)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:06 PM
Author: Crawly Bawdyhouse

1st year retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723317)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Cerebral bat shit crazy center

the thought makes me want to vomit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723322)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:08 PM
Author: Crawly Bawdyhouse

It does, but on the other end I've been getting pretty reckless about estimating my time. I'm gonna get got if I keep being sloppy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723330)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:16 PM
Author: Deep Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723829)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 1:44 AM
Author: abusive weed whacker

Do most associates not use their timers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728709)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Crawly Bawdyhouse

Just take the bill and go over each entry. Increase some entries and if she asks why you just say "thats how long it should take"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723324)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:06 PM
Author: laughsome smoky volcanic crater

send him an email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723723)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM
Author: big messiness

"BUFFER" great term to incorporate into your everyday lexicon.

Example: "I spent around 1 hr. traveling and reviewing docs with client, with a 30 minute buffer because the lady at Starbucks had an IBS attack"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723732)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM
Author: splenetic umber step-uncle's house hominid

work carefully. client is not cost sensitive and wants us to be very thorough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723743)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: Deep Address

jfc. tell her not to use a timer and to try recalling how much time she spent on the work at the end of the day. keep track During the day merely of the things she did, not how much time she spent on them.

You know she's gonna get that out to 8 hours that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723755)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:14 PM
Author: exciting fiercely-loyal whorehouse

"be fair to yourself when recording time"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723818)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:23 PM
Author: Alcoholic Chapel Ladyboy

"index" time spent on the matter by just upping the price by some factor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727967)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:24 PM
Author: Scarlet cracking church building

mention how everyone else does it: make it up on the 30th

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727972)



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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:29 PM
Author: Wonderful mexican

Padding seems a lot easier in lit.

Girls generally underbill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728015)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 2:06 AM
Author: seedy chad police squad

Take her stupid timer away for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728768)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: greedy chartreuse elastic band

A timer can be useful and is not counter to padding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732810)



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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:20 PM
Author: Self-centered voyeur

i'm currently picturing a mousy 20something in an ill-fitting pantsuit literally hitting a chess clock every 6 minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732911)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:57 PM
Author: trip magical home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070818)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:47 PM
Author: irate regret stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070711)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:14 PM
Author: Frisky hissy fit

"Look, I'm not telling you to pad your time, all right? I'm just saying..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070982)



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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:45 PM
Author: Deep Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071282)