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philgradapp
  01/23/06
Hi philgradapp! Always glad to meet a fellow philosopher. ...
Max Power
  01/23/06
Hey, I have applied to: Emory Claremont U of Washingto...
DonnaMB1223
  01/24/06
Harvard, Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, Michigan, NYU, Columbia, C...
dangnangit
  01/24/06
If those are your interests you should definitely be applyin...
littlewing
  01/24/06
You're about the fifth person to tell me this. I spoke with...
dangnangit
  01/24/06
No use crying over spilled milk, I suppose, but I'd add that...
philapp123
  01/26/06
. . . but great football team. I have heard good things abo...
stevesi
  01/26/06
Email me if interested - DO NOT DELETE
mbahopeful_guy
  02/14/06
Email me if interested - DO NOT DELETE
mbahopeful_guy
  02/14/06
Philosophy of Language
philgradapp
  01/24/06
What are your stats?
DonnaMB1223
  01/24/06
Do ec's matter?
inspectorgadget
  02/03/06
i miss frege too
toniokroger
  06/26/06
stats
philgradapp
  01/24/06
Applications
philapp123
  01/26/06
In at Duke
philapp123
  02/03/06
another one
oedipa
  01/26/06
Glad we're getting a few more people on this thread. Let's ...
philgradapp
  01/26/06
How come no one's applying to the big H? I know it's not th...
diegothedreadful
  01/26/06
I've heard horrible things about the phil grad dept at Harva...
oedipa
  01/26/06
"They complain about not being worked hard enough"...
diegothedreadful
  01/26/06
Not that the courses aren't challenging, but that they won't...
oedipa
  01/26/06
I think that, in general, you have to be careful about takin...
stevesi
  01/26/06
Also, just to give you an idea, I have heard from at least o...
stevesi
  01/26/06
...
11222
  01/27/06
Is the only reason that the Harvard rumor sounds "dubio...
oedipa
  01/26/06
Both Harvard and Pitt have something like what you describe ...
stevesi
  01/26/06
Well, my best friend is a first year at Pitt and did not tak...
oedipa
  01/26/06
I've heard several times that the better the philosophy depa...
oedipa
  01/27/06
I am pretty certain it means that most of the applicants are...
stevesi
  01/27/06
Thanks for the info. Here's to hoping that being a woman cou...
oedipa
  01/27/06
I would guess around 700 verbal 750 math 5.5 AW is pretty sa...
stevesi
  01/27/06
From what I've heard from the professors I've spoken with ab...
philgradapp
  01/30/06
most people I know had a decision or two in early feb (not f...
stevesi
  01/30/06
I would really like to get one bit of good news early in Feb...
philgradapp
  01/30/06
On GRE: what sucks is that some schools (and I think mostly ...
stevesi
  01/30/06
good news
philgradapp
  01/31/06
CONGRATULATIONS! You can relax a little bit and enjoy the m...
DonnaMB1223
  01/31/06
I don't know yet. The acceptance letter said, "Admissi...
philgradapp
  01/31/06
Hey- congrats. Hopefully the first of many. I was notifi...
stevesi
  01/31/06
I just got an email informing me that I was nominated for a ...
philgradapp
  01/31/06
This does tend to happen. I got pretty much the same inform...
antiaphorist
  02/08/06
Just wanted to start a new thread.
philgradapp
  01/31/06
Everyone may want to double check with the schools to be sur...
DonnaMB1223
  01/31/06
...
DonnaMB1223
  02/02/06
philgradapp
FCC24
  02/06/06
why would you fear that having a JD would make it difficult ...
OLL
  02/07/06
law school
philgradapp
  02/07/06
so you worked for a while before clerking? if i can ask (...
OLL
  02/07/06
philgradapp - thank you for the great response. I guess this...
FCC24
  02/07/06
clerk/ma program
philgradapp
  02/08/06
You also might get into a really good MA program, as opposed...
stevesi
  02/09/06
In at the University of Virginia
antiaphorist
  02/08/06
website
philgradapp
  02/08/06
...
oedipa
  02/08/06
UNC
oedipa
  02/08/06
I hear they do not assign much work there until the end of t...
stevesi
  02/08/06
Master's programs
booter
  02/08/06
I hear good things about UW-Milwaukee http://www.uwm.edu/...
stevesi
  02/09/06
Georgia St. http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwphl/philosophy.html
stevesi
  02/09/06
Hofweber and Lycan, primarily. A part of my (undergrad) thes...
oedipa
  02/09/06
LiveJournal Thread Deleted
antiaphorist
  02/09/06
Replacement LJ community: 'whogotin'
antiaphorist
  02/10/06
Looks like it's back now. You can ignore this whole thread....
antiaphorist
  02/10/06
Higher score on the GMAT … - Tutor wanted – Pay: $50,000+
mike_mba_hopeful
  02/12/06
Higher score on the GMAT … - Tutor wanted – Pay: $50,000+
mike_mba_hopeful
  02/12/06
...
DonnaMB1223
  02/24/06
thank you for bumping this. it's been completely dead. i...
seaofdoubts
  02/24/06
I'm surprised at how dead this has been which is why I 'bump...
DonnaMB1223
  02/24/06
mainly to the "continental" schools: loyola, depau...
seaofdoubts
  02/25/06
Purdue
DonnaMB1223
  02/24/06
Ding ding ding
dangnangit
  02/28/06
Most of those schools will have sent out their acceptances b...
stevesi
  02/28/06
Not sure if it means anything, but your stats are pretty fuc...
oedipa
  02/28/06
Thanks for the ego boost, and it looks like you would know s...
dangnangit
  02/28/06
Just curious - What is/are your top choice(s)? You applied t...
oedipa
  02/28/06
I'd have to say MIT, but I haven't really 'tiered' my choice...
dangnangit
  02/28/06
This is interesting... I called Michigan and MIT this mor...
dangnangit
  03/02/06
My guess is that it is an unofficial waitlist-- I have known...
stevesi
  03/02/06
Sounds about right, thanks.
dangnangit
  03/02/06
good luck
stevesi
  03/02/06
stevesi- Do many people transfer much from one phd progra...
philgradapp
  03/02/06
It happens, but it is not entirely clear under what conditio...
stevesi
  03/02/06
::Sigh:: It looks like I will be joining you in raising the...
caliblues
  03/04/06
Yeah, it's a hard crash down to reality, but an acceptance c...
dangnangit
  03/04/06
Is this board alive again?!
oedipa
  02/28/06
wow----- nice
stevesi
  02/28/06
hey, im also very worried about MIT. has anyone received any...
boyblue
  03/03/06
MIT made 10 offers - 5 boys and 5 girls - via phone. There i...
oedipa
  03/04/06
You seem to know everything about every department. Are you...
dangnangit
  03/04/06
Haha, sadly, no. I just have very good friends at a lot of t...
oedipa
  03/04/06
"And my friends at these departments are quite buddy-bu...
Max Power
  03/04/06
Sure, though I can't say it helps all that much to know so m...
oedipa
  03/06/06
have you decided where you are going?
stevesi
  03/06/06
Not yet. I have compelling offers from Cornell, UNC, Texas, ...
oedipa
  03/06/06
"Sure, though I can't say it helps all that much to kno...
Max Power
  03/06/06
transfers
philgradapp
  03/03/06
Accepted at...
DonnaMB1223
  03/06/06
Congratulations!
philgradapp
  03/06/06
Thanks Philgradapp - it certainly was a relief to receive th...
DonnaMB1223
  03/06/06
I understand completely; good luck with the next four. Hawa...
philgradapp
  03/06/06
decision online?
booter
  03/07/06
I can tell you what they told me over the phone: the decisio...
MetaLauren
  03/14/06
ok, I suck
oedipa
  03/06/06
bump
stevesi
  03/09/06
Up to now: Rejected: Cornell, Stanford, MIT Nothing: C...
dangnangit
  03/09/06
add Princeton to the reject list
dangnangit
  03/09/06
Hi there-- I applied to NYU too, and called the dept yest...
AgnesPhil
  03/09/06
So I'm raising the white flag, but I'd like a bit of advice ...
dangnangit
  03/09/06
anyone out thur?
dangnangit
  03/11/06
H news
SeanBateman
  03/11/06
*THE* Sean Bateman? Of Harvard?
seaofdoubts
  03/15/06
First, go fuck yourself. Now that we've gotten that out o...
SeanBateman
  03/16/06
It wasn't the content of your message -- whether you are a c...
seaofdoubts
  03/17/06
Um. . . what was the matter with his original post?
stevesi
  03/17/06
What exactly was patronizing about my original post? I ...
SeanBateman
  03/17/06
wow, your reply was so witty you didn't even NEED to use the...
UPENN HAS A LAW SCHOOL????
  03/17/06
Decision Time
DonnaMB1223
  03/22/06
Especially if you are considering doing philosophy of religi...
philgradapp
  03/23/06
I'm not upset that I didn't get full funding - I didn't expe...
DonnaMB1223
  03/24/06
...
DonnaMB1223
  03/28/06
Chicago
Genghis
  04/06/06
so how hard is grad school admissions for philosophy? how ha...
jinglebells
  04/23/06
"how hard is it to get into ucla?" Apparently t...
R. P. Feynman
  04/23/06
thanks for that link. but: Average Time to Doctoral Degr...
jinglebells
  04/23/06
9 years is not normal, but not completely abnormal either. ...
stevesi
  04/24/06
gpa just in phil classes right, not overall?
jinglebells
  04/25/06
UVA, which ranks around 40 on the leiter report, says that t...
stevesi
  04/25/06
Philosophy: what background recommended?
Max Power
  05/03/06
I assume you already have a decent philosophy background and...
stevesi
  05/04/06
some stupid questions
jinglebells
  06/13/06
I went to a state school in Massachusetts and applied to 12 ...
DonnaMB1223
  06/13/06
Do you mind telling us which PhD programs you applied to?
kinbote
  06/13/06
the PhD programs I applied to were Emory, Duke, Baylor, USC,...
DonnaMB1223
  06/14/06
so you think you got dinged because of your under grad?
jinglebells
  06/13/06
The model for a PhD philosophy program is generally free tui...
stevesi
  06/14/06


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Date: January 23rd, 2006 4:58 PM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: Philosophy Admissions

I know it's early, but I thought I would start a thread where people could post where they are applying to graduate school in philosophy and whether they have been accepted, rejected, or waitlisted (when they find out) and any other information they think might be relevant. Here are the schools I applied to:

UNC

Colorado

University of California Santa Barbara

Washington (Seattle)

Virginia

Virginia Tech (master's program)

I haven't heard from any of them yet. I had a letter of recommendation that was a little late, and so I spoke with the various departments to make sure that was ok, and I got some information that other applicants might find interesting. Washington told me that they would start reviewing applications on January 24; Virginia said they would be starting within the next week or so; and Virginia Tech told me that I would hear something in February. Just a little info I thought might be useful. If you have similar info, please post in this thread.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4893958)





Date: January 23rd, 2006 11:07 PM
Author: Max Power

Hi philgradapp! Always glad to meet a fellow philosopher. In what fields of philosophy are your interests?

My intentions (and obstacles thereto) are recorded in the Graduate School Applicants -- Roll Call thread; will probably not apply this year, but I'm so far out from undergrad the exact year I start may not matter so much. I'm most interested in neo-Scholasticism.

Max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4897200)





Date: January 24th, 2006 8:35 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

Hey,

I have applied to:

Emory

Claremont

U of Washington (Seattle)

U of Hawaii

U of Buffalo

U of Chicago Divinity

Purdue

Tufts

An e-mail I received from Washington said that decisions would be made in either late March or early April. Emory said middle to end of February and Chicago said by the end of February. I haven't heard anything from the other schools that I've applied to - but my fingers are crossed and wish the whole thing was over with. This waiting around is so stressful. I'm interested in Eastern and Western philosophy along with ancient philosophy and religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4899285)





Date: January 24th, 2006 4:46 PM
Author: dangnangit

Harvard, Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, Michigan, NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Princeton.

Applied with a purported concentration in cognitive science and foundations of mathematics (independence proofs in ZFC blah blah). And, obviously, no word yet. From cached pages of whogotin looks like I should be hearing in a few weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4902188)





Date: January 24th, 2006 4:50 PM
Author: littlewing

If those are your interests you should definitely be applying to Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4902229)





Date: January 24th, 2006 5:30 PM
Author: dangnangit

You're about the fifth person to tell me this. I spoke with a former grad student (one of my profs) who told me the atmosphere was overly nasty. Additionally, I don't really like the location. Anyway, nine applications is enough for this cycle ;) .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4902575)





Date: January 26th, 2006 9:03 AM
Author: philapp123

No use crying over spilled milk, I suppose, but I'd add that I've heard just the opposite about Pittsburgh from former students there. It seems to me that judgments about the 'niceness' of a program are fairly subjective, and tend to reflect (not necessarily negatively) on the student rather than on the program as a whole. I get the sense that the 'atmosphere' of a program depends in large part on the sort of work you do, your place in departmental politics, etc...

It certainly isn't an attractive location, though. Terrible baseball team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4911731)





Date: January 26th, 2006 9:07 AM
Author: stevesi

. . . but great football team. I have heard good things about Pitt. Typical complaints about advising, but you hear those everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4911752)





Date: February 14th, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: mbahopeful_guy (magicauctions123@yahoo.com)
Subject: Email me if interested - DO NOT DELETE

I NEED A GMAT TUTOR!!!

If you tutor me, and if I do well on the GMAT exam, I will pay you up to $10k. This is no joke, and I am not crazy. Here is my contact information to get a hold of me:

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

How are you? I am doing very well…

I am looking for someone who has scored on the GMAT exam within the past ten (10) years the score of 680 or higher on the GMAT exam. You need to show proof to me of your old GMAT exam test score, and I will pay you to tutor me if you are willing to travel with all expenses paid to come tutor me for just a weekend. I will pay all the expenses for your stay, hotel accommodations included, as well as three meals a day, etc…

Here is how much I will pay you for you to come and tutor me: $1,000 if I get a score of 650 or higher, or $5,000 if I get a score of 700 or higher, or $10,000 if I score a 750 or higher on the GMAT 3.5 hour exam. If you are real confident in training me score high on this GMAT exam, I am more than willing to fly you over to tutor me in Tampa, Florida. No, I am not crazy because I have been misled by other companies that guaranteed me a higher score on the GMAT such as Kaplan and the Princeton Review, but would not give me a refund if I score only 20 points higher. So, I am serious about this offer because I hope to get into the Harvard MBA program. I will put lots of money up front for you to tutor me, along with plane tickets, meals, and hotel accommodations all of your choice.

I will pay you the $1,000 if I get a 650 on the GMAT, $5,000 if I get a 700 on the GMAT, or $10,000 if I get a 750 on the GMAT exam. This is serious MBA stuff, and if you want to tutor me you will earn a lot of money just with me. So, if you already scored above a 680 on the GMAT, you may call me at the number below. I can also be reached through Yahoo online Instant Messenger: MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com. When you realize how much money you have made by tutoring me, you can brag to all your friends about the money you made. My guarantee is all in this post. If you can make me a successful GMAT test taker, I will recommend you to twenty (20) other friends who are also willing to pay the same amount of price as indicated above, or higher.

What I look like: I am 26 plus years old, asian descent, and 6 feet tall. I am very skinny with black long hair, and black eyes. I also work for a company that pays me $80,000 a year, and possibly more if I get into the Harvard MBA program with your help!!!

Thanks for looking!!!

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

Yahoo IM: MagicAuctions123

P.S.!!! If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks, again!!!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5087343)





Date: February 14th, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: mbahopeful_guy (magicauctions123@yahoo.com)
Subject: Email me if interested - DO NOT DELETE

I NEED A GMAT TUTOR!!!

If you tutor me, and if I do well on the GMAT exam, I will pay you up to $10k. This is no joke, and I am not crazy. Here is my contact information to get a hold of me:

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

How are you? I am doing very well…

I am looking for someone who has scored on the GMAT exam within the past ten (10) years the score of 680 or higher on the GMAT exam. You need to show proof to me of your old GMAT exam test score, and I will pay you to tutor me if you are willing to travel with all expenses paid to come tutor me for just a weekend. I will pay all the expenses for your stay, hotel accommodations included, as well as three meals a day, etc…

Here is how much I will pay you for you to come and tutor me: $1,000 if I get a score of 650 or higher, or $5,000 if I get a score of 700 or higher, or $10,000 if I score a 750 or higher on the GMAT 3.5 hour exam. If you are real confident in training me score high on this GMAT exam, I am more than willing to fly you over to tutor me in Tampa, Florida. No, I am not crazy because I have been misled by other companies that guaranteed me a higher score on the GMAT such as Kaplan and the Princeton Review, but would not give me a refund if I score only 20 points higher. So, I am serious about this offer because I hope to get into the Harvard MBA program. I will put lots of money up front for you to tutor me, along with plane tickets, meals, and hotel accommodations all of your choice.

I will pay you the $1,000 if I get a 650 on the GMAT, $5,000 if I get a 700 on the GMAT, or $10,000 if I get a 750 on the GMAT exam. This is serious MBA stuff, and if you want to tutor me you will earn a lot of money just with me. So, if you already scored above a 680 on the GMAT, you may call me at the number below. I can also be reached through Yahoo online Instant Messenger: MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com. When you realize how much money you have made by tutoring me, you can brag to all your friends about the money you made. My guarantee is all in this post. If you can make me a successful GMAT test taker, I will recommend you to twenty (20) other friends who are also willing to pay the same amount of price as indicated above, or higher.

What I look like: I am 26 plus years old, asian descent, and 6 feet tall. I am very skinny with black long hair, and black eyes. I also work for a company that pays me $80,000 a year, and possibly more if I get into the Harvard MBA program with your help!!!

Thanks for looking!!!

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

Yahoo IM: MagicAuctions123

P.S.!!! If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks, again!!!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5087344)





Date: January 24th, 2006 11:24 AM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: Philosophy of Language

I'm primarily interested in philosophy of language, but also metaphysics, epistemology, and mind. I've actually been out of school for a while too (I graduated in 1997). Unfortunately, I went to law school first, where I quickly decided I didn't want to be a lawyer. I practiced law for a couple of years right after law school, and now I'm doing a federal clerkship and waiting to hear if any of these graduate schools will take an old man like me into their program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4899909)





Date: January 24th, 2006 1:07 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223

What are your stats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4900590)





Date: February 3rd, 2006 10:16 PM
Author: inspectorgadget

Do ec's matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4990098)





Date: June 26th, 2006 5:32 PM
Author: toniokroger
Subject: i miss frege too

My interests in college were the same as yours. I thought I had gotten over my academic phase and decided to go to law school. Now I'm in my first year and all i can do is dream about those lazy afternoons of reading and debating wittgenstein, kripke... i even miss Tarski!

My only comfort is knowing that i'll have a nice apartment in nyc, nice clothes, a nice car, and pretty girls who won't mind emotionally distant men if the men provide them with the aforementioned niceties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#6076911)





Date: January 24th, 2006 1:25 PM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: stats

I'd rather not say, though I'll email them to you if you'll post your email. I'm just not particularly comfortable with posting too much information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4900688)





Date: January 26th, 2006 8:59 AM
Author: philapp123
Subject: Applications

philgradapp, you read my mind (and, apparently, took my intended username several days ago). I was going to post a thread just like this this past weekend.

Here goes:

10 or so programs, including:

NYU

Michigan

Columbia

Stanford

Duke

University of Washington

Brown

Berkeley

Primary interest in Political Philosophy, especially Rawls (explains some omissions, such as Arizona and UVA). Also strong interest in phil. science and M&E generally, especially phil. language/mind (e.g., concepts/content). Good stats letter/writing sample, somehwat weak pedigree (though I will have an M.A. from a good terminal program). I've heard that the biggest barrier for people in my position is the paucity of information conveyed in the application process- hence the wide range of programs. We'll see how it goes.

I'd be interested to hear when and where people do/don't get in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4911713)





Date: February 3rd, 2006 5:58 PM
Author: philapp123
Subject: In at Duke

Just got email from auto-notification system. No word from department yet, so no info on $, though early decision raises hopes for *real*, i.e., funded, admission. Anyone have thoughts on the program there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4987823)





Date: January 26th, 2006 1:18 PM
Author: oedipa
Subject: another one

Applying to PhD programs. Interests include metaphysics, epistemology, phil of mind, history (mostly Hume). I'm 23, took a year off after undergrad to focus on grad applications (plus I knew I'd be more competitive if I took a year off, having graduated and having received awards/honors/etc.) I could go on about "stats" but I'd feel a bit like a self-aggrandizing tool.

My schools:

NYU

Princeton

Pitt

MIT

Cornell

Berkeley

Indiana

Chicago

Michigan

UNC-Chapel Hill

UT-Austin

Top choices: MIT and Cornell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4912957)





Date: January 26th, 2006 2:03 PM
Author: philgradapp

Glad we're getting a few more people on this thread. Let's keep it going since it looks as though whogotin won't be coming back anytime soon. As for the question about Harvard, I'm only applying to one "top" school, and that is because of a couple of the professors there. I chose places based more on what professors I want to work with, where I would want to live, and, hopefully, where have a good chance of getting in. I went to a small liberal arts school with an emphasis on history of philosophy rather than contemporary analytic research, and then I went to law school, so I've been out of school for a while. Because of this, I don't think I really have a great chance of getting into the top schools. Also, I'm old enough to take rankings with an appropriate grain of salt. Don't get me wrong; I would love to go to a top school such as Harvard. It's just not my biggest concern. I'm just hoping to get in somewhere and do something I love.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4913347)





Date: January 26th, 2006 1:55 PM
Author: diegothedreadful

How come no one's applying to the big H? I know it's not the best way to judge these things, but it is pretty high on the Gourmet Report, isn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4913271)





Date: January 26th, 2006 2:45 PM
Author: oedipa (the Big H)

I've heard horrible things about the phil grad dept at Harvard. This comes from a good friend of mine at MIT (phil) who regularly meets with the Harvard kids. They complain about not being worked hard enough and not getting a lot of attention from profs.

Also, Harvard isn't all *that* impressive. Certainly in the top 10, but far from the best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4913699)





Date: January 26th, 2006 3:34 PM
Author: diegothedreadful

"They complain about not being worked hard enough"

i.e. the courses aren't challenging? I find that hard to believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914104)





Date: January 26th, 2006 3:59 PM
Author: oedipa (the Big H)

Not that the courses aren't challenging, but that they won't have ANY work to do until finals period, at which point it becomes mad-crunch time.

I've heard the same thing at Pitt.

Whereas at MIT, they work them to the bone from Day One.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914302)





Date: January 26th, 2006 4:59 PM
Author: stevesi

I think that, in general, you have to be careful about taking one or two people's opinions as authoritative. As with Pitt, there are plenty of people who are happy with Harvard and despite "not having to work hard" (a rumor which sounds rather dubious) the department seems to place its students pretty well. I have heard Harvard students sling mud at MIT students as well. "They graduate in 4-5 years without knowing anything other than their dissertation topic" and "the only work on minute technical issues which are obscure and irrelevant." I wouldn't put much faith in these caricatures either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914741)





Date: January 26th, 2006 5:23 PM
Author: stevesi

Also, just to give you an idea, I have heard from at least one person associated in some way with the respective department (visited, attended, tranfered from, taught at, etc.) that each of the following philosophy departments have "terrible atmospheres":

NYU

Rutgers

Oxford

MIT

Stanford

Pitt

Harvard

Chicago

CUNY

Johns Hopkins

Northwestern

What I discovered is that these schools all have students who are happy, but that the most disgruntled students are the loudest. And philosophy grad students tend to be loud anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914992)





Date: January 27th, 2006 1:25 AM
Author: 11222



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4919378)





Date: January 26th, 2006 6:49 PM
Author: oedipa (the Big H)

Is the only reason that the Harvard rumor sounds "dubious" because it's, well, Harvard? As I said, it's not that the Harvard classes are supposedly lacking in academic rigor. Rather, I've heard that the bulk of the work comes during finals period, WHEREAS at a place like MIT, the work is constant throughout the semester. The first-years at MIT have a first-year seminar, in which they regularly give presentations and write papers, etc. There is nothing of the sort at, for example, Pitt (I am best friends with a first-year there). Not to say that Pitt (or Harvard) are bad departments at all - they're actually quite excellent. Some people, I'm sure, enjoy the not-much-work-till-finals system more than others. I, personally, would like to do work regularly throughout the semester, which is why I found the Harvard system to sound (note the use of the word "sound" rather than "be") undesirable, which is why I responded to the original poster, on the topic of why I'm not applying to "the Big H."

All that being said, I'm *of course* not taking these reports to be authoritative. At the same time, it's important to get feedback from current students at all of these places, keeping in mind that these are nothing but subjective accounts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4915643)





Date: January 26th, 2006 9:23 PM
Author: stevesi

Both Harvard and Pitt have something like what you describe MIT first years having.

http://www.pitt.edu/~philosop/graduate/requirements.html

Proseminar Requirement

Each student must enroll in the two-term Proseminar sequence in his or her first year. The fall term Proseminar, open only to philosophy first-years, aims to introduce students to graduate work in philosophy by way of reading and writing about core texts. The spring term Proseminar, open to philosophy first-years as well as to qualified students from outside the department, shares this aim. Each year one Proseminar will address topics in metaphysics and epistemology, and the other will address topics in ethics.

http://www.gsas.harvard.edu/programs/degree/philos.html

Note: The First Year Colloquium (Philosophy 300a and 300b) may not be used to fulfill any part of the distribution requirement. Philosophy 299hf, the second-year paper, may be used to fulfill a distribution requirement.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4916999)





Date: January 26th, 2006 9:34 PM
Author: oedipa (the Big H)

Well, my best friend is a first year at Pitt and did not take the proseminar fall semester, nor is she taking it this semester. And to my knowledge, she hasn't been kicked out yet. :)

And I don't have any *close* friends at Harvard, so I wouldn't know about their first-year requirements. Still doesn't mean the seminar is set up in the same way the MIT one is. But you know what, perhaps it is, and the students at Harvard are unimpressed with the workload, whereas my friend at MIT is finding it challenging. All I know is (a) my MIT friend says that some Harvard kids have said that they don't get a lot of work until the semester wraps up, and (b) that MIT has a seminar set up in a certain way so that you're always doing work. I attributed the former to the fact that perhaps Harvard didn't have the latter, but that could easily not be the case.

Whatever the case may be, I'm just sharing what I've heard about a graduate experience. I could share other anecdotes as well - some of which I've found uninformative, some of which I've found revealing - but of course, bottom line is that you should attend to these matters carefully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4917062)





Date: January 27th, 2006 9:43 AM
Author: oedipa (question about the GRE and top schools)

I've heard several times that the better the philosophy department, the less GRE scores matter. Does this mean that students who are applying to the top-most schools probably already have stunning GRE scores, so adcom members aren't going to nitpick about who got a 780 and who got a 790? OR does it mean that, all (non-GRE) things being equal, someone with a 1200 overall is equally as competitive as someone with a 1600?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4920521)





Date: January 27th, 2006 10:54 AM
Author: stevesi

I am pretty certain it means that most of the applicants are pretty stellar, but that once you have made the initial cut, GRE does not matter.

Most top departments get between 200 and 300 applications. The admissions committee cannot take a hard look at all the applications, and so pick out 40-60 based on GPA, GRE, and a skim of LORs. Sometimes the university as a whole has a (high) GRE requirment for funding, so some of the work is done there.

But, once you make this cut, decisions are made based upon LORs, writing samples, interests of the department, the rest of the year's applicant pool, etc. As far as I can tell, they never go back and let in someone who had an 800 verbal over someone with a 720 just because of the GRE.

Most places promise to look at the whole application regardless of GRE score. From what I hear, if you do not make the initial cut, the way you get back into the pool is if you were close to making the cut and you are part of an under-represented group (non-white, woman, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4920832)





Date: January 27th, 2006 11:37 AM
Author: oedipa (question about the GRE and top schools)

Thanks for the info. Here's to hoping that being a woman counts for something!

What do you think the general cut-off is? 90th percentile for all sections? I've heard the AW is the most critical - thoughts?

In general, I think the GRE is absurd. This is NOT because I did badly on it and feel bitter. I just think that one's performance on a high-stress, expensive multiple choice test taken on a dingy computer in a strip mall center is possibly the least effective way to test for philosophical ability. I hope that other top schools will follow MIT and Cornell in realizing this ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4921056)





Date: January 27th, 2006 2:34 PM
Author: stevesi

I would guess around 700 verbal 750 math 5.5 AW is pretty safe, without really having anyone give me exact numbers. Most of the people I know who got into top programs scored at least in this range (remember that an 800 math is around 90th percentile). I sort of get the impression that no section is particularly important, as departments are not hoping that the test will measure any particular skill; rather, they are hoping it will correlate well with general intelligence.

Testing in general is terrible, but what are you gonna do? I have been held back from a number of things because I always tested poorly. With the GRE, I just dedicated myself to not getting screwed, studied more than the average person, and ended up doing well. If nothing else, it distinguished me from people who were not as dedicated.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4922346)





Date: January 30th, 2006 12:41 PM
Author: philgradapp

From what I've heard from the professors I've spoken with about the GRE, anything around high 600's or low 700's in both sections and you're fine, as far as getting the admissions committee to read your writing sample and LOR's. You're right to point out that 800 is around 90th percentile in the math section, but you also have to remember the number of physics, math, engineering, etc. marjors that are taking the same test that humanities people are taking. So, though I think the math portion is important for philosophy and scoring well will certainly help you, I don't think 750 is the "cutoff".

This process absolutely has me on tenterhooks; since I can't get any work done, anyone want to guess when we'll start hearing from schools? February 15th?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4946568)





Date: January 30th, 2006 2:08 PM
Author: stevesi

most people I know had a decision or two in early feb (not from top schools), a litte more around feb 15, and then things really began to pour in last week of feb, first week of march.

maybe 750 was too high of a guess; most people I know at top programs did pretty well on that section even though they are not "math people."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4947193)





Date: January 30th, 2006 3:30 PM
Author: philgradapp

I would really like to get one bit of good news early in February in order to take a little bit of the heat off.

Most of the people who I know who have gotten into top programs have done well on that section too. But when you're talking about cutoffs, I think 750 is a little high. Then, of course, most of the people who just make the initial cut probably don't ultimately make it, though I do know of several people with less than stellar GRE's who got into top programs. One friend of mine got in to a top three with a 660 verbal and 710 math; good scores, but significantly below the 700/750 you mentioned. I'm just saying that to get through that initial cut, I think high 600's/low 700's in each section will get you through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4947905)





Date: January 30th, 2006 4:23 PM
Author: stevesi

On GRE: what sucks is that some schools (and I think mostly state schools) have ridiculous minimum cutoffs to be considered for funding. I shot for these really high numbers so that I would not be left out anywhere because of something stupid like the GRE. But, maybe I over-estimated what was required. That can happen when you read this website and see the scores people get.

Waiting for a decision is horrible. With undergrad, you pretty much knew you were getting in SOMEWHERE decent. With grad school, you might be out of luck. It makes it all the better when the good news comes, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4948386)





Date: January 31st, 2006 8:27 AM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: good news

I just got my first bit of good news: I was accepted at UC Santa Barbara! They sent me an email this morning. What a relief! That's going to make the next few months a lot easier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4954564)





Date: January 31st, 2006 8:37 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

CONGRATULATIONS! You can relax a little bit and enjoy the moment. Did you get funding?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4954568)





Date: January 31st, 2006 9:11 AM
Author: philgradapp

I don't know yet. The acceptance letter said, "Admission decisions are processed independently from consideration for financial support. For information about financial support, please contact your department of interest." I'm on the East Coast, so I have to wait a couple of hours to contact them and see what the situation is. I'm hopeful that, since I was accepted so early, funding won't be a problem. Stevesi: when you applied and got in, did they let you know about funding immediately? Also, when did you have to notify the schools? I'm excited about UCSB, but I would also like to hear from the other schools before I make a decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4954617)





Date: January 31st, 2006 11:54 AM
Author: stevesi

Hey- congrats. Hopefully the first of many.

I was notified about funding at the same time, as were most people I know. I am not sure why they would let you know this way without letting you know about funding- let us know how it goes.

Schools have all agreed not to force you to decide until April 15. So, you have plenty of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4955422)





Date: January 31st, 2006 12:54 PM
Author: philgradapp

I just got an email informing me that I was nominated for a central fellowship. Apparently, the philosophy department nominates some of its admitted students for these fellowships, which are distributed by the graduate school to incoming graduate students in different disciplines. These are awarded at the end of February. Then, after determining whether any philosophy students received central fellowships, the philosophy department decides how to distribute its funding. So, though I'm very, very happy to be admitted, I've still got to play the waiting game as to funding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4955815)





Date: February 8th, 2006 12:30 PM
Author: antiaphorist

This does tend to happen. I got pretty much the same information from UVa when I was admitted: I'll know what kind of a package at the end of Feburary. Then again, I was immediately told what my funding package would be when I got wait-listed at UCLA last year, so as with this whole process, there are exceptions to every rule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5028183)





Date: January 31st, 2006 12:55 PM
Author: philgradapp

Just wanted to start a new thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4955826)





Date: January 31st, 2006 1:51 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223

Everyone may want to double check with the schools to be sure all items have been received. I just contacted Claremont who had sent an e-mail indicating my on-line application had been received but it didn't indicate whether my supplemental info had been received. Lo and behold one of my transcripts was missing. YIKES!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4956289)





Date: February 2nd, 2006 3:11 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223 (bump)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4975904)





Date: February 6th, 2006 11:29 PM
Author: FCC24
Subject: philgradapp

This is for philgradapp:

I'm in a really similar situation to you.. I've just started law school, and anticipate clerking & then doing a few years at a firm. I am hoping to go back for a MA or PhD in philos at some point after graduating; so my question is, do you have any general advice on this process? Better to do it right away or wait a bit? Or just go for a joint degree now? I'm almost convinced that it'll be difficult to get into anywhere decent after completing my JD... do you have any opinions generally on how departments view older applicants?

If you don't want to post in here, please email me at allenzoom74 at yahoo dot com.

Thanks!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5015948)





Date: February 7th, 2006 1:32 AM
Author: OLL

why would you fear that having a JD would make it difficult to get in to a grad school?

i think a lot of grad schools like people with experience outside of UG. i think this would include law, especially if it's related to what you want to study in grad school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5017244)





Date: February 7th, 2006 9:07 AM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: law school

Being in the middle of the application process, it's tough for me to tell you how departments view older applicants. I'm 31 yrs old, and I've been out of law school for five years. I was worried that this might be a problem, but I've already gotten one acceptance, so I don't think it is too much of an obstacle, if it is at all. As far as when you are going to do it, I think that depends on what your goals are. If you want to go immediately into academia, then I think it is probably best to do a joint degree or go straight into a phd program. But I don't think it is a bad thing to get out in the "real world" for a little while and see what it is like.

One thing to consider is whether the philosophy department at your current university matches with your philosophical interest. Also, if you are interested in phil law, political phil, etc., I think it would not be a bad idea to go straight through or do a joint program so that you can just keep working on your interests, but this probably isn't that much of a factor. Make sure and take advantage of the course offerings in your law school. I was able to take several philosophy classes in my second and third year and develop some great relationships with philosophy professors who were then able to write me lor's.

Sometimes I wish I had gone straight through, just because I'm going to be in my late 30's before I finish. On the other hand, working at a firm and clerking have been great experiences. Though I hated big firm life, I now know that, so I don't and won't have any regrets about not taking that path, and I learned a great deal. The clerkship, to be honest, is incredible. You don't have to deal with as much bs as when you are practicing; you just focus on research and writing. I've really enjoyed it, and I would recommend you do a clerkship.

I hope this is helpful. If you have any more questions, feel free to post them. I might respond by email next time, but either way, I'll respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5018089)





Date: February 7th, 2006 1:08 PM
Author: OLL

so you worked for a while before clerking?

if i can ask (and you don't have to answer), but what level are you clerking at? i'm really interested in clerking, but i don't attend a top5 and won't finish very close to 1st in my class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5019470)





Date: February 7th, 2006 5:06 PM
Author: FCC24

philgradapp - thank you for the great response. I guess this is really an individual thing, and part of the problem is that I don't have any specific goals in mind. I really just want to grad school for the sake of doing it, because I think I'd enjoy it & benefit from it, not necessarily to go into academia.

Best of luck in your applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5021885)





Date: February 8th, 2006 1:35 PM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: clerk/ma program

To answer the first question, I'm clerking at a federal district court. I went to a top 10 school and did fairly well, but I wasn't in the top 10% of my class, so don't give up on clerking. FCC24- One piece of advice I would offer you is that you should seriously consider an MA program. If you want to do grad school just for the sake of doing it, an MA program is probably the way to go. You will get two years of classes and a solid background education in philosophy. In a phd program, from what I understand, after the two years of classes you concentrate on a fairly limited area in which to do your research for your phd. Just a thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5028565)





Date: February 9th, 2006 1:23 PM
Author: stevesi

You also might get into a really good MA program, as opposed to a crappy PhD program, which could be more be more beneficial. It is certainly not the case that the best masters programs are worse than the worst PhD programs. Many are comparable to top 50 PhD programs in terms of faculty quality (there are over 100 PhD programs in the US, I think. We could use more MA programs, and fewer doctoral programs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5038428)





Date: February 8th, 2006 12:27 PM
Author: antiaphorist
Subject: In at the University of Virginia

Received an acceptance via phone on January 31st.

(Sorry this information comes a bit late. All the former readers of whogotin have scattered to the winds, not quite sure where to go.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5028154)





Date: February 8th, 2006 2:49 PM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: website

Post acceptances and rejections here:

http://lavenderspice.com/poll/survey.php?s_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5029225)





Date: February 8th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: oedipa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5030700)





Date: February 8th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: oedipa
Subject: UNC

In at UNC-Chapel Hill. Got a phone call from Keith Simmons.

So excited!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5030703)





Date: February 8th, 2006 5:38 PM
Author: stevesi

I hear they do not assign much work there until the end of the semester. . .

Kidding. Congrats, that is a fantastic school. I have known some really great people who got rejected from there, so it is certainly an accomplishment. With whom do you want to work? Or do you even know that yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5030922)





Date: February 8th, 2006 11:03 PM
Author: booter
Subject: Master's programs

I am waiting to hear back from the Tufts MA which happens to be my top choice. I come from a small liberal arts school with an equally small philo department and a GPA of 3.77. After much thought I decided that applying to various MA programs surrounding my interests (political philosophy and feminist theory) would serve for me a slow but steady stepping stool to getting into some more competitive ph.d programs.

If Tufts doesn't happen for me, how reputable are lesser name MA programs in the PhD admissions process? I actually visited Tufts recently and was not at all impressed and one program that is theory orientated and focuses on cultural criticism I find myself attached to. Would completing this type of program put me on equal grounds with undergrads applying from top schools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5034232)





Date: February 9th, 2006 8:14 AM
Author: stevesi

I hear good things about UW-Milwaukee

http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/Philosophy/placement.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036980)





Date: February 9th, 2006 8:19 AM
Author: stevesi

Georgia St.

http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwphl/philosophy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036987)





Date: February 9th, 2006 2:48 AM
Author: oedipa

Hofweber and Lycan, primarily. A part of my (undergrad) thesis had to do with Wolf. It's generally a fantastic dept, so it will definitely be a contender.

I just got into Indiana as well. Not as much of a contender. But I still feel quite lucky.

What a day! I'm sure karma has it in for me, though...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036381)





Date: February 9th, 2006 11:43 PM
Author: antiaphorist
Subject: LiveJournal Thread Deleted

Guess the mod suffered a meltdown after folks called him on his censorship and "ownership" issues. So... anyone know where the main board is now? Haven't seen much activity here recently...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5044244)





Date: February 10th, 2006 12:14 AM
Author: antiaphorist
Subject: Replacement LJ community: 'whogotin'

Heya folks,

Sorry to post this here, but I don't know how else to get in touch with folks.

I was a frequent poster on the 'who_got_in' community over at LiveJournal, and like everyone else, I'm irked by the sudden deletion of such an invaluable source.

In the interest of having some place where we can resume talking with the same format, I've created a 'whogotin' community back over at LiveJournal. Now, this isn't intended to be in "competition" with autoadmit (heh!) - simply another point of access for folks who enjoyed that medium for whatever particular reason.

I can assure you that there shall be absolutely no deleting or active moderating of the community, save in the instance of blatantly insulting material (and even then, only when I've been asked by at least two different people to delete the offending post). I have no interest in "running things" - I just want to get the service back up and running.

If there actually is a new central discussion board, and I just haven't been resourceful enough to find it, please do let me know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5044520)





Date: February 10th, 2006 2:36 AM
Author: antiaphorist

Looks like it's back now. You can ignore this whole thread. In fact, if the mod could kindly delete it, that would be great.

Oye... melodrama...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5045338)





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I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 598-2899. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.

If this is you, then read on…

I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, here’s the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.

If you are excited so far, then read on…

I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay.

What happens after you tutor me…

When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.

Have a nice weekend!

Thank you!!!

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Email me if interested.

P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5066867)





Date: February 12th, 2006 4:17 PM
Author: mike_mba_hopeful (magicauctions123@yahoo.com)
Subject: Higher score on the GMAT … - Tutor wanted – Pay: $50,000+

If you tutor me, and if I score at least a 750 on the GMAT, I will give you $10,000. This is no joke.

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Greetings!!!

I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 598-2899. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.

If this is you, then read on…

I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, here’s the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.

If you are excited so far, then read on…

I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay.

What happens after you tutor me…

When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.

Have a nice weekend!

Thank you!!!

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Email me if interested.

P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5066869)





Date: February 24th, 2006 4:44 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223 (Rejected)
Subject: bump



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5175853)





Date: February 24th, 2006 5:13 PM
Author: seaofdoubts

thank you for bumping this. it's been completely dead.

i wonder if anyone else has heard anything outside of yale -- which seems to have been the busiest in rejecting folks like me this week.

another weekend spent agonizing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5176076)





Date: February 24th, 2006 7:00 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223 (Rejected)

I'm surprised at how dead this has been which is why I 'bumped' it. Here's a link, if it doesn't get deleted where lots of people seem to be:

http://community.livejournal.com/who_got_in/

Where are you applying? I have heard from Emory - rejected but I still have hope with 5 other schools a couple of MA programs and 3 PhD - just wish I'd hear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5176958)





Date: February 25th, 2006 4:44 AM
Author: seaofdoubts

mainly to the "continental" schools: loyola, depaul, bc, stony brook, and a few others. made a mistake in dreaming/spending money applying to a few top 20 programs (yale, nyu, columbia) which will not take me, and so now it comes down to the "swing states" (as it were) in determining how happy i'll be at the end of this.

even after only one rejection, i am already in the position of hoping for just one admittance. just one.

self-esteem definitely takes a hit when the first decision is a no. i can only hope that someone this is all settled by the middle of next week. can't take much more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5180944)





Date: February 24th, 2006 7:09 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223
Subject: Purdue

So I e-mailed Purdue to see when a decision would be made (they have rolling admission). My file went out for review on 2/1 - I wonder how long it takes for a decision. Anyone have any ideas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5177029)





Date: February 28th, 2006 9:05 AM
Author: dangnangit
Subject: Ding ding ding

Well, so far just straight out dinged at Stanford, and no word from ANYwhere else. Again, applying to: Stanford, Berkeley, NYU, Harvard, MIT, Cornell, Michigan, Princeton and Columbia.

Supposedly people have received offers from Berkeley, NYU and Michigan. Should I start preparing the white flag?

This sucks...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5207061)





Date: February 28th, 2006 9:50 AM
Author: stevesi

Most of those schools will have sent out their acceptances by the beginning of next week. Rejections can take a long time to arrive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5207167)





Date: February 28th, 2006 3:03 PM
Author: oedipa

Not sure if it means anything, but your stats are pretty fucking amazing (the best I've seen on any of these boards), and I'm absolutely positive you will get into one of your schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5208945)





Date: February 28th, 2006 5:10 PM
Author: dangnangit

Thanks for the ego boost, and it looks like you would know something about admissions (presuming you're the oedipa from LJ)! Have to say I'm a bit jealous of you at the moment, but we'll see how everything plays out in the end :P . Anyway, if the grad school thing doesn't work, there's always law school...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5209775)





Date: February 28th, 2006 6:22 PM
Author: oedipa

Just curious - What is/are your top choice(s)? You applied to an extremely impressive array of schools!

My fingers are crossed for you - but as I indicated previously, I doubt you'll need the good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5210241)





Date: February 28th, 2006 6:28 PM
Author: dangnangit

I'd have to say MIT, but I haven't really 'tiered' my choices (i.e. I'd be perfectly happy attending any one of them).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5210307)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 9:14 AM
Author: dangnangit

This is interesting...

I called Michigan and MIT this morning and both the graduate secretaries told me no decisions had been made about me, and that I would hear something by March 15th. Is this tantamount to a rejection, since some people have been presented with offers already? Or is this something like the unofficial waiting list I hear about?

Oi vay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5224456)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 11:09 AM
Author: stevesi

My guess is that it is an unofficial waitlist-- I have known people who were rejected at the same time acceptance letters went out and then people who were rejected from those same schools 2 weeks later.

Not to be too negative, but getting in off of a waitlist at a top school is pretty difficult, given that so many of the people they accept matriculate. Of course, some turn down NYU to go to Princeton, or Michigan to go to Harvard, but the top schools generally have a good idea of how many to accept. Schools like Minnesota, on the other hand, are more likely to really use a waitlist. It is a good program, but not top, so a lot of people use it as a backup. So, they might accept a certain number, get turned down by most of them (who are going to better programs) and then move straight to the waitlist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5224977)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 11:13 AM
Author: dangnangit

Sounds about right, thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5225031)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 12:10 PM
Author: stevesi

good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5225491)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 3:45 PM
Author: philgradapp

stevesi-

Do many people transfer much from one phd program to another?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5227320)





Date: March 2nd, 2006 7:56 PM
Author: stevesi

It happens, but it is not entirely clear under what conditions it "usually happens". So, some move from one top program to another for personal reasons. A few manage to move from a good program to a better one. But that tends to be awkward. It means a person must admit that they are ditching their program, which is weird on both ends. If you are thinking of trading up at some point, I would suggest a masters program instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5229559)





Date: March 4th, 2006 4:29 AM
Author: caliblues

::Sigh:: It looks like I will be joining you in raising the white flag. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I've applied to Berkeley, Harvard, NYU, Columbia, Michigan, Princeton, and Brown, and I've just been rejected by Brown today (I'm from Stanford so I didn't apply there). I've heard NOTHING from anywhere else.

I guess I'll have to think of something for next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5243333)





Date: March 4th, 2006 12:04 PM
Author: dangnangit

Yeah, it's a hard crash down to reality, but an acceptance could materialize next week. This whole thing just seems so mysterious and arbitrary. I'm right there with you, and hopefully something will turn up before I force myself to start studying for the LSAT. Perhaps Michigan, Berkeley, and Harvard have waitlists, and no word from Columbia, Princeton, or Cornell yet. We're not quite finished...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5244206)





Date: February 28th, 2006 3:01 PM
Author: oedipa
Subject: Is this board alive again?!

In at Michigan and UT-Austin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5208936)





Date: February 28th, 2006 5:39 PM
Author: stevesi

wow----- nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5209976)





Date: March 3rd, 2006 9:13 AM
Author: boyblue

hey, im also very worried about MIT. has anyone received any EMAIL from them? Acceptance or Rejection or Waitlist at that?

how about the CANADIAN universities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5234013)





Date: March 4th, 2006 11:25 AM
Author: oedipa

MIT made 10 offers - 5 boys and 5 girls - via phone. There is no waitlist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5243991)





Date: March 4th, 2006 12:05 PM
Author: dangnangit

You seem to know everything about every department. Are you an academic spy?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5244216)





Date: March 4th, 2006 3:10 PM
Author: oedipa

Haha, sadly, no. I just have very good friends at a lot of the top philosophy departments (which was one of the reasons I waited a year to apply - I couldn't bear the thought of competing against my rockstar friends). And my friends at these departments are quite buddy-buddy with the junior profs there, who are on the adcoms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5245539)





Date: March 4th, 2006 6:44 PM
Author: Max Power

"And my friends at these departments are quite buddy-buddy with the junior profs there, who are on the adcoms."

oedipa, can I be your friend? : )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5247167)





Date: March 6th, 2006 3:56 PM
Author: oedipa

Sure, though I can't say it helps all that much to know so much useless gossip.

Basically, I don't want to teach. I just want to be the next gossip-hungry Brian Leiter. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5263760)





Date: March 6th, 2006 5:48 PM
Author: stevesi

have you decided where you are going?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5264900)





Date: March 6th, 2006 8:36 PM
Author: oedipa

Not yet. I have compelling offers from Cornell, UNC, Texas, Michigan, Indiana, and most recently, Pitt. I've turned down Indiana and I will most likely be turning down Texas and Pitt soon. I have scheduled visits to UNC, Cornell, and Mich. I have yet to hear back from a few places (no rejections yet, but they'll be a-coming) but I assume I'm on a secret waitlist that won't pan-out, or that my rejection is in the postal service as we speak.

Clearly, I'm very torn right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5266628)





Date: March 6th, 2006 7:56 PM
Author: Max Power

"Sure, though I can't say it helps all that much to know so much useless gossip."

Sounds to me like any friend yours is a friend of...the admissions committies!

(This is what Aristotle called a friendship of utility, you understand.)

Just kidding. Any friend of wisdom is a friend of mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5266265)





Date: March 3rd, 2006 10:41 AM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: transfers

Are there any transfer applicants out there? I would be interested in hearing what you guys have to say about the experience of trying to apply as a transfer student.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5234265)





Date: March 6th, 2006 8:25 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223
Subject: Accepted at...

U of Hawaii MA program. One rejection and one acceptance, so far. Still waiting on U of Chicago-Divinity, Purdue, U of Washington, Tufts, Claremont - anyone have any news on them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5261135)





Date: March 6th, 2006 9:16 AM
Author: philgradapp
Subject: Congratulations!

I'm happy to hear you got your first acceptance!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5261208)





Date: March 6th, 2006 10:08 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

Thanks Philgradapp - it certainly was a relief to receive the acceptance after getting a rejection from Emory. Still waiting on 4 others but at least I have a program to attend in the Fall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5261361)





Date: March 6th, 2006 10:17 AM
Author: philgradapp

I understand completely; good luck with the next four. Hawaii sure wouldn't be a bad place to spend a couple of years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5261399)





Date: March 7th, 2006 1:22 PM
Author: booter
Subject: decision online?

Does anyone know if the Tufts online "application management system" is worth checking as far as decisions are concerned? I'm making the assumption that I'll hear from the post office first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5271582)





Date: March 14th, 2006 1:05 PM
Author: MetaLauren

I can tell you what they told me over the phone: the decisions are posted online three days after they are emailed. Yet I just got an email saying the decisions are being mailed soon. I don't know if that means they will not also be emailed; maybe the admissions officer who told me that made a mistake and decisions are NOT emailed, just mailed. I'm flipping out, so I still check the app mgmt system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5335241)





Date: March 6th, 2006 9:31 PM
Author: oedipa
Subject: ok, I suck

I'm not sure if this matters, but I just found out that something I posted earlier is not, in fact, true.

MIT does, actually, have a waitlist.

Whether or not they'll use it, no one knows, but they do indeed have such a thing.

My apologies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5267127)





Date: March 9th, 2006 8:09 AM
Author: stevesi

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5289332)





Date: March 9th, 2006 8:40 AM
Author: dangnangit

Up to now:

Rejected: Cornell, Stanford, MIT

Nothing: Columbia, Harvard, Berkeley, NYU, Princeton, Michigan.

hmmmmmmmm...

I think next year I'm going to apply to cog sci programs and law schools. Phil is too much of a lottery for my liking, not sure if it's worth the time, effort, and $$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5289362)





Date: March 9th, 2006 11:56 AM
Author: dangnangit

add Princeton to the reject list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5290247)





Date: March 9th, 2006 5:33 PM
Author: AgnesPhil

Hi there--

I applied to NYU too, and called the dept yesterday to check my status. They said that they sent out acceptances 3 weeks ago or so....if you haven't heard anything, that means you're rejected. I share your pain!

I'm waiting on the same schools you are...I'm crossing my fingers for the both of us! So far, I'm 0/4 (Rejected by NYU, Cornell, Yale, and Princeton).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5293071)





Date: March 9th, 2006 10:34 PM
Author: dangnangit

So I'm raising the white flag, but I'd like a bit of advice concerning next year. To recap what's happened thus far:

Dinged: Stanford, MIT, Princeton, Cornell

Haven't heard: Columbia, NYU, Harvard, Michigan, and Berkeley

Stats: 3.9 overall and in major from JHU, 760 V/770 Q/5.5 AW GRE

Columbia is the only school that hasn't issued acceptaces, so for all intents and purposes I'm presuming a complete shut out this year. I think a lot of it has to do with the highly technical nature of my writing sample (concerning negative feedback in AI) and my focus on logic/cog sci in my course work, though officially I have a double major in philosophy and liberal arts. My plan for next year is to take the LSAT and apply to law schools and in addition apply to programs more suited to what I want to do. As of now I'm thinking:

Pitt HPS, UCI LPS, Berkeley's group in logic & methodology, CMU PhD, Rutgers and UCSD

and a few cog sci programs to boot (namely JHU and Brown)

Anyone have some advice to share on this? I've fallen in love with CMU's program in logic and computation, but I have no idea how competitive it is or what the ad com expects. Should I have better luck with these schools next year? Are there any I should add to my tentative list? Is applying to cog sci out of straight philosophy UG difficult (I have taken some advanced courses in cog sci here at JHU)?

Thanks in advance



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5295331)





Date: March 11th, 2006 10:13 PM
Author: dangnangit

anyone out thur?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5312498)





Date: March 11th, 2006 6:20 PM
Author: SeanBateman
Subject: H news

Not to ruin anyone's day, but I remember what it was like last year to be agonizing over hearing from schools so I thought I would add this bit of information to the thread. I'm currently a grad student at Harvard, and acceptances were sent out by email last week. So if you haven't heard yet, it's not good news. Maybe people already knew this, but some people said they were still waiting on Harvard so I thought I would throw this out there. Sorry.

Oh, and one last thing. As a grad student at Harvard, I can safely say that you are working throughout the entire semester. Many classes have midterms, or periodic writing assignments, though some do only have one big paper at the end. But for those classes where you do only have one big paper at the end, the assumption is that as an adult you will be working on it throughout the semester. For those that choose to throw together 20 page papers entirely during reading period, I'm sure that the end of the semester feels like much more work to them than the rest of the time. But that's because they've chosen to make it that way, not because it's supposed to be that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5310874)





Date: March 15th, 2006 11:32 PM
Author: seaofdoubts
Subject: *THE* Sean Bateman? Of Harvard?

Wow! What merits this royal visit, bringing such sage wisdom (and, alas, bad news, too) and also, um, BY THE WAY reminding us that you're a student at HARVARD UNIVERSITY?

I see that no one has thanked you yet, so let me be the first to express my gratitude to you for taking five minutes out of your grown-up working schedule -- book, bell, and candle balanced carefully in hand, no doubt -- to piss down from heaven.

I'm sure everyone will appreciate another visit next March, too, so please, keep the site bookmarked. We don't want all that wisdom wasted just on the folks at HARVARD!

-- St. Procopius of the North, Class of 02'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5346837)





Date: March 16th, 2006 11:28 PM
Author: SeanBateman

First, go fuck yourself.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let me make my second point. If I had only posted the fact that Harvard acceptances had been sent out already, and left out the fact that I go to Harvard, then dickheads like you would have been racing to respond to me by asking how the fuck I know that. I may not have posted here since I was applying to grad school last year, but I do remember how this troll-infested message board operates.

Third, when I am responding to previous comments that people have made about what it is like to be a graduate student in philosophy at Harvard, I kind of think that it enhances my credibility on that issue to mention the fact that I am one. Once again, had I not mentioned that, people like you would have told me I'm just some kid who doesn't know what he's talking about and needs to shut the fuck up. But instead, let me be the one to tell you that.

I don't need to get my kicks going on anonymous message boards and flaunting my academic credentials. If I wanted to do that, you'd probably see me here a bit more often than you do. But I should thank you for reminding me why I don't post here anymore, and why trying to help out the few decent people who frequent this message board isn't worth the price of putting up with trolls like you. So consider this my last post for another six months: the board is yours asshole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5355884)





Date: March 17th, 2006 1:59 PM
Author: seaofdoubts

It wasn't the content of your message -- whether you are a current student, or whether you have the cred to know what you're talking about -- but your patronizing tone.

Of course, your second post only confirms the seething ressentiment which was merely in utero in your first post. If you're really trying to help the few decent people -- are you one? -- out there then your charity seems to have run out pretty quickly, and turned into something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5359836)





Date: March 17th, 2006 2:04 PM
Author: stevesi

Um. . . what was the matter with his original post?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5359884)





Date: March 17th, 2006 7:13 PM
Author: SeanBateman

What exactly was patronizing about my original post?

I return actually to apologize in part for my last post. While I think that there was absolutely nothing in my original post that merited your response to it, I will acknowledge that part of the "ressentiment" (you Continental philosophers are great by the way - see now that was patronizing, notice the difference?) you point out is due to past exchanges with people on this message board who were just as presumptuous and ready to attack someone as yourself. Regardless, I didn't need to go as far as I did in attacking you, and for that I am sorry.

So when I speak of the "few decent people" I mean to refer to those who are here to get and share information rather than those who look for any excuse to be critical of someone.

I didn't make my original post to flaunt my academic credentials and I certainly didn't intend to be patronizing. The truth is merely that I applied to graduate school last year and I found this board to be a helpful source of information. In the spirit of giving back, I decided to share what little information I can this year once it dawned on me that it was application season. I was rejected from 7 of the 10 schools that I applied to, and Harvard was one of the last I heard from. It was an agonizing process and I felt that I should try to ease people's anxiety in any way I could, even if it was with bad news - it's better than no news at all. While I feel that I earned my spot at Harvard and don't have to apologize to anyone for being here, I'm also more than grateful to have this opportunity. So now that I've spent all of this time justifying to you my simple effort to be nice, perhaps you can cut me a little slack if I was a a bit incensed at having my motives questioned by some person who has no idea who I am or what I'm about.

And so in keeping with why I posted on this thread in the first place, let me add that while I know it may be too late in the process for it to matter if anyone has any questions about the application process or about what graduate school is like feel free to ask. I don't set myself up as any kind of authority on these subjects (make sure to get that out there right now to head off any potential confusion), but I did apply last year and I am a first year grad student this year so I might be able to answer some questions. Congratulations to all who have been accepted somewhere so far - I hope you find graduate school as intellectually invigorating as I have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5362294)





Date: March 17th, 2006 12:33 AM
Author: UPENN HAS A LAW SCHOOL???? (I've won national awards for humor-writing, buster...)

wow, your reply was so witty you didn't even NEED to use the reply button!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5356600)





Date: March 22nd, 2006 4:16 PM
Author: DonnaMB1223
Subject: Decision Time

So, I've been accepted to three program:

U of Chicago-Divinity - 50% Tuition Scholarship

U of Hawaii - no awards for MA

Claremont Graduate Univ. - 15% Tuition Scholarship

Leaning toward Chicago but a bit concerned how "Divinity" will look when applying elsewhere for Ph.D in 2 years. Anyone have thoughts? I'm interested in comparative philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5399998)





Date: March 23rd, 2006 3:47 PM
Author: philgradapp

Especially if you are considering doing philosophy of religion or considering going to a more continental friendly department for your phd, then I don't think going to a divinity school would be bad at all. I met a guy who was in divinity school before tranferring to a philosophy graduate school, and that was to a more mainstream, analytic philosophy program. I think the main thing you want to do is look at the courses offered, see who the faculty members are there, and maybe see if the divinity department has any contact or interaction with the philosophy department.

Sorry you didn't get full funding, but at least you'll be studying somewhere. Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5407948)





Date: March 24th, 2006 9:54 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

I'm not upset that I didn't get full funding - I didn't expect to receive any funding as an MA. I figure anything is better than nothing and I'm prepared to take out loans and pay them off for the rest of my life :) I have no idea where I'll go for my phd which is part of why I'm concerned about doing my MA at the Divinity school. I'm going to visit next week so hopefully I can get clarification on some issues and make a decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5414084)





Date: March 28th, 2006 9:06 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223
Subject: Bump



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5446450)





Date: April 6th, 2006 11:33 PM
Author: Genghis
Subject: Chicago

If I were you I'd jump at Chicago Divinity. It's actually my dream school. Any interest in ethics? Go to Chicago, kiss Elshtain's ass, get a good rec from her and write your ticket to any Phd program in the western world. Same goes for Marion. If you find yourself continuing in phil of relig or anything close to it, Chicago Div Phd admissions are really easy for Chicago Div MA students. Of course if you have no interest in p of r or dread struggling through Hegel in German for the next couple of years, then forget what I said. But then again if you had no interest in p of r than what was the point of applying to div school anyway?

btw thank you for introducing a non-IR thread! We gotta get those IR people their own forum or something-- its getting out of control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5530906)





Date: April 23rd, 2006 2:09 AM
Author: jinglebells (...)

so how hard is grad school admissions for philosophy? how hard is it to get into ucla? what kind of numbers? does cumlative gpa matter or just gpa in your major (philosophy, obviously)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5634185)





Date: April 23rd, 2006 3:21 AM
Author: R. P. Feynman (I ain't undead yet!)

"how hard is it to get into ucla?"

Apparently the philosophy program accepted 15% of the applicants from 1998-2002 (when they averaged 111 applicants per year). For admissions data on all of UCLA's graduate programs, see: http://www.gdnet.ucla.edu/asis/progprofile/profile.asp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5634517)





Date: April 23rd, 2006 12:41 PM
Author: jinglebells (...)

thanks for that link.

but:

Average Time to Doctoral Degree (In Years) 9

is that normal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5635544)





Date: April 24th, 2006 9:56 AM
Author: stevesi

9 years is not normal, but not completely abnormal either. It depends on the program quite a bit. All good programs are at least 5 years. . . many of those with decent placement (like Pitt or Harvard) tend to be longer. Stanford, another great program, tends to be 5 years (I think) but then their immediate placement is not as good (some get post-docs or something similar and then end up placing quite well).

The UCLA data is a little out of date- competition has become more fierce every year. Many of the top programs get between 200-250 applications, and admit as few as 10-12. Average GPAs among schools even in the lower part of the top 50 can be as high as 3.8. GREs can vary (MIT and Cornell do not even require them) but they tend to be very high. That is, you had better not rest content with 75th percentile.

Finally, most of this simply qualifies the student. The writing sample and rec letters are the final determining factors. So, I would say it is quite competitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5641024)





Date: April 25th, 2006 6:35 PM
Author: jinglebells (...)

gpa just in phil classes right, not overall?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5650956)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:33 PM
Author: stevesi

UVA, which ranks around 40 on the leiter report, says that the average overall GPA for an admitted student is 3.74, with a 3.87 major GPA and a 3.8 GPA in the final 2 years of UG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5651837)





Date: May 3rd, 2006 8:21 PM
Author: Max Power
Subject: Philosophy: what background recommended?

I'm going to a CC to beef up my Philosophy credentials. Besides French, German, and Symbolic Logic, what other fields would help my CV? Higher math (if Analytic Philosophy)? Statistics (to defend theories)? Social or pure sciences? Sanskrit?

Or could I study these on my own and just tell admissions I've studied these subjects from books? (I've been working on my languages lately, but without official credit.)

Max Power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5709252)





Date: May 4th, 2006 9:52 AM
Author: stevesi

I assume you already have a decent philosophy background and you are looking to beef up in other areas?

It probably depends upon te area in which you are most interested. If Phil Mind, then psych. If phil science, then definitely some natural science courses. Higher math only if you are interested in really difficult logic (or, obviously, phil math). Economics is a good catch-all, however. It is a science (sort of) insofar as it has some scientific methodology. But economic theory has played a big role in political philosophy, ethics, action theory, and practical rationality.

I don't think studying stuff on your own will be all that important to the admission committee. You probably need to be in a class. You might get away with that in terms of the languages if you learn them on your own, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5712525)





Date: June 13th, 2006 3:58 AM
Author: jinglebells
Subject: some stupid questions

1. how much does getting a phd generally cost? what's this i hear about funding?

2. how much does your undergrad factor in? (does comming from princeton help at all?)

3. i think i may be pwn3d by my overall gpa (3.5), but my departmental gpa (philosophy obviously), will probably be 3.7; is this a big problem?

thanks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5972882)





Date: June 13th, 2006 9:18 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

I went to a state school in Massachusetts and applied to 12 schools total. Six for PhD and 6 for MA. I was rejected by all PhD programs and accepted into 4 MA programs. My overall GPA was 3.9 and my dept. GPA was 4.0. I had 3 strong letters of rec and I thought my writing sample was strong also - but perhaps not. My GRE scores were a bit low; especially in the verbal section (680), math 690 and my writing score was 5.5. I'm fine with going into the MA program - I got a partial scholarship so that will cut my costs and I will be able to beef up my CV. My language background is only 4 years of french.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5973237)





Date: June 13th, 2006 3:44 PM
Author: kinbote

Do you mind telling us which PhD programs you applied to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5976150)





Date: June 14th, 2006 9:21 AM
Author: DonnaMB1223

the PhD programs I applied to were Emory, Duke, Baylor, USC, 2 in the UK. I don't think my undergrad school had anything to do with my not being accepted. I think my lack of language background and my GRE hurt. Although my LORs were strong 1 of my writers is not well known.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5982022)





Date: June 13th, 2006 4:58 PM
Author: jinglebells

so you think you got dinged because of your under grad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5976831)





Date: June 14th, 2006 11:56 AM
Author: stevesi

The model for a PhD philosophy program is generally free tuition and a living stipend/teaching fellowship of $10,000-$25,000 (many now offer health insurance). This does not mean that every program follows the model. Some will admit students with only partial funding or none at all. Some will make students compete for fellowship money once they are there. Some will require ridiculous teaching loads while providing only a small stipend. It all depends. Also, some schools require teaching only after the 2nd year whereas other programs require teaching from the begining. Most of the better programs (top 10 or so) provide good financial packages.

I sort of doubt that a 3.5 (3.7) GPA from Princeton would disqualify a candidate from anything (though it probably a below average GPA). The big things are letters of rec and writing sample. Almost everyone who applies has what they think are strong letters and a good writing sample. The key is to stand out in some way. So, it would be good to work with a professor on an independent research project which you would ultimately use as a writing sample. Having a solid "A-paper" writing sample is not good enough. It needs to stand out among 200 very good papers. Also, having a well-known prof say nice things in a letter is not enough. You want the prof to actually think "this person belongs in a PhD program" and be willing to truly vouche for you.

Hope this helps.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5983172)