UNC

Colorado

University of California Santa Barbara

Washington (Seattle)

Virginia

Virginia Tech (master's program)

I haven't heard from any of them yet. I had a letter of recommendation that was a little late, and so I spoke with the various departments to make sure that was ok, and I got some information that other applicants might find interesting. Washington told me that they would start reviewing applications on January 24; Virginia said they would be starting within the next week or so; and Virginia Tech told me that I would hear something in February. Just a little info I thought might be useful. If you have similar info, please post in this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4893958)

My intentions (and obstacles thereto) are recorded in the Graduate School Applicants -- Roll Call thread; will probably not apply this year, but I'm so far out from undergrad the exact year I start may not matter so much. I'm most interested in neo-Scholasticism.

Max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4897200)

I have applied to:

Emory

Claremont

U of Washington (Seattle)

U of Hawaii

U of Buffalo

U of Chicago Divinity

Purdue

Tufts

An e-mail I received from Washington said that decisions would be made in either late March or early April. Emory said middle to end of February and Chicago said by the end of February. I haven't heard anything from the other schools that I've applied to - but my fingers are crossed and wish the whole thing was over with. This waiting around is so stressful. I'm interested in Eastern and Western philosophy along with ancient philosophy and religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4899285)

Applied with a purported concentration in cognitive science and foundations of mathematics (independence proofs in ZFC blah blah). And, obviously, no word yet. From cached pages of whogotin looks like I should be hearing in a few weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4902188)

It certainly isn't an attractive location, though. Terrible baseball team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4911731)

If you tutor me, and if I do well on the GMAT exam, I will pay you up to $10k. This is no joke, and I am not crazy. Here is my contact information to get a hold of me:

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

How are you? I am doing very well…

I am looking for someone who has scored on the GMAT exam within the past ten (10) years the score of 680 or higher on the GMAT exam. You need to show proof to me of your old GMAT exam test score, and I will pay you to tutor me if you are willing to travel with all expenses paid to come tutor me for just a weekend. I will pay all the expenses for your stay, hotel accommodations included, as well as three meals a day, etc…

Here is how much I will pay you for you to come and tutor me: $1,000 if I get a score of 650 or higher, or $5,000 if I get a score of 700 or higher, or $10,000 if I score a 750 or higher on the GMAT 3.5 hour exam. If you are real confident in training me score high on this GMAT exam, I am more than willing to fly you over to tutor me in Tampa, Florida. No, I am not crazy because I have been misled by other companies that guaranteed me a higher score on the GMAT such as Kaplan and the Princeton Review, but would not give me a refund if I score only 20 points higher. So, I am serious about this offer because I hope to get into the Harvard MBA program. I will put lots of money up front for you to tutor me, along with plane tickets, meals, and hotel accommodations all of your choice.

I will pay you the $1,000 if I get a 650 on the GMAT, $5,000 if I get a 700 on the GMAT, or $10,000 if I get a 750 on the GMAT exam. This is serious MBA stuff, and if you want to tutor me you will earn a lot of money just with me. So, if you already scored above a 680 on the GMAT, you may call me at the number below. I can also be reached through Yahoo online Instant Messenger: MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com. When you realize how much money you have made by tutoring me, you can brag to all your friends about the money you made. My guarantee is all in this post. If you can make me a successful GMAT test taker, I will recommend you to twenty (20) other friends who are also willing to pay the same amount of price as indicated above, or higher.

What I look like: I am 26 plus years old, asian descent, and 6 feet tall. I am very skinny with black long hair, and black eyes. I also work for a company that pays me $80,000 a year, and possibly more if I get into the Harvard MBA program with your help!!!

Thanks for looking!!!

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

Yahoo IM: MagicAuctions123

P.S.!!! If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks, again!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5087343)

If you tutor me, and if I do well on the GMAT exam, I will pay you up to $10k. This is no joke, and I am not crazy. Here is my contact information to get a hold of me:

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

How are you? I am doing very well…

I am looking for someone who has scored on the GMAT exam within the past ten (10) years the score of 680 or higher on the GMAT exam. You need to show proof to me of your old GMAT exam test score, and I will pay you to tutor me if you are willing to travel with all expenses paid to come tutor me for just a weekend. I will pay all the expenses for your stay, hotel accommodations included, as well as three meals a day, etc…

Here is how much I will pay you for you to come and tutor me: $1,000 if I get a score of 650 or higher, or $5,000 if I get a score of 700 or higher, or $10,000 if I score a 750 or higher on the GMAT 3.5 hour exam. If you are real confident in training me score high on this GMAT exam, I am more than willing to fly you over to tutor me in Tampa, Florida. No, I am not crazy because I have been misled by other companies that guaranteed me a higher score on the GMAT such as Kaplan and the Princeton Review, but would not give me a refund if I score only 20 points higher. So, I am serious about this offer because I hope to get into the Harvard MBA program. I will put lots of money up front for you to tutor me, along with plane tickets, meals, and hotel accommodations all of your choice.

I will pay you the $1,000 if I get a 650 on the GMAT, $5,000 if I get a 700 on the GMAT, or $10,000 if I get a 750 on the GMAT exam. This is serious MBA stuff, and if you want to tutor me you will earn a lot of money just with me. So, if you already scored above a 680 on the GMAT, you may call me at the number below. I can also be reached through Yahoo online Instant Messenger: MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com. When you realize how much money you have made by tutoring me, you can brag to all your friends about the money you made. My guarantee is all in this post. If you can make me a successful GMAT test taker, I will recommend you to twenty (20) other friends who are also willing to pay the same amount of price as indicated above, or higher.

What I look like: I am 26 plus years old, asian descent, and 6 feet tall. I am very skinny with black long hair, and black eyes. I also work for a company that pays me $80,000 a year, and possibly more if I get into the Harvard MBA program with your help!!!

Thanks for looking!!!

MiKE WONG

(813) 598-2899

MagicAuctions123@Yahoo.com

Yahoo IM: MagicAuctions123

P.S.!!! If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks, again!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5087344)

My only comfort is knowing that i'll have a nice apartment in nyc, nice clothes, a nice car, and pretty girls who won't mind emotionally distant men if the men provide them with the aforementioned niceties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#6076911)

Here goes:

10 or so programs, including:

NYU

Michigan

Columbia

Stanford

Duke

University of Washington

Brown

Berkeley

Primary interest in Political Philosophy, especially Rawls (explains some omissions, such as Arizona and UVA). Also strong interest in phil. science and M&E generally, especially phil. language/mind (e.g., concepts/content). Good stats letter/writing sample, somehwat weak pedigree (though I will have an M.A. from a good terminal program). I've heard that the biggest barrier for people in my position is the paucity of information conveyed in the application process- hence the wide range of programs. We'll see how it goes.

I'd be interested to hear when and where people do/don't get in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4911713)

My schools:

NYU

Princeton

Pitt

MIT

Cornell

Berkeley

Indiana

Chicago

Michigan

UNC-Chapel Hill

UT-Austin

Top choices: MIT and Cornell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4912957)

Also, Harvard isn't all *that* impressive. Certainly in the top 10, but far from the best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4913699)

i.e. the courses aren't challenging? I find that hard to believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914104)

I've heard the same thing at Pitt.

Whereas at MIT, they work them to the bone from Day One.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914302)

NYU

Rutgers

Oxford

MIT

Stanford

Pitt

Harvard

Chicago

CUNY

Johns Hopkins

Northwestern

What I discovered is that these schools all have students who are happy, but that the most disgruntled students are the loudest. And philosophy grad students tend to be loud anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4914992)

All that being said, I'm *of course* not taking these reports to be authoritative. At the same time, it's important to get feedback from current students at all of these places, keeping in mind that these are nothing but subjective accounts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4915643)

http://www.pitt.edu/~philosop/graduate/requirements.html

Proseminar Requirement

Each student must enroll in the two-term Proseminar sequence in his or her first year. The fall term Proseminar, open only to philosophy first-years, aims to introduce students to graduate work in philosophy by way of reading and writing about core texts. The spring term Proseminar, open to philosophy first-years as well as to qualified students from outside the department, shares this aim. Each year one Proseminar will address topics in metaphysics and epistemology, and the other will address topics in ethics.

http://www.gsas.harvard.edu/programs/degree/philos.html

Note: The First Year Colloquium (Philosophy 300a and 300b) may not be used to fulfill any part of the distribution requirement. Philosophy 299hf, the second-year paper, may be used to fulfill a distribution requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4916999)

And I don't have any *close* friends at Harvard, so I wouldn't know about their first-year requirements. Still doesn't mean the seminar is set up in the same way the MIT one is. But you know what, perhaps it is, and the students at Harvard are unimpressed with the workload, whereas my friend at MIT is finding it challenging. All I know is (a) my MIT friend says that some Harvard kids have said that they don't get a lot of work until the semester wraps up, and (b) that MIT has a seminar set up in a certain way so that you're always doing work. I attributed the former to the fact that perhaps Harvard didn't have the latter, but that could easily not be the case.

Whatever the case may be, I'm just sharing what I've heard about a graduate experience. I could share other anecdotes as well - some of which I've found uninformative, some of which I've found revealing - but of course, bottom line is that you should attend to these matters carefully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4917062)

Most top departments get between 200 and 300 applications. The admissions committee cannot take a hard look at all the applications, and so pick out 40-60 based on GPA, GRE, and a skim of LORs. Sometimes the university as a whole has a (high) GRE requirment for funding, so some of the work is done there.

But, once you make this cut, decisions are made based upon LORs, writing samples, interests of the department, the rest of the year's applicant pool, etc. As far as I can tell, they never go back and let in someone who had an 800 verbal over someone with a 720 just because of the GRE.

Most places promise to look at the whole application regardless of GRE score. From what I hear, if you do not make the initial cut, the way you get back into the pool is if you were close to making the cut and you are part of an under-represented group (non-white, woman, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4920832)

What do you think the general cut-off is? 90th percentile for all sections? I've heard the AW is the most critical - thoughts?

In general, I think the GRE is absurd. This is NOT because I did badly on it and feel bitter. I just think that one's performance on a high-stress, expensive multiple choice test taken on a dingy computer in a strip mall center is possibly the least effective way to test for philosophical ability. I hope that other top schools will follow MIT and Cornell in realizing this ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4921056)

Testing in general is terrible, but what are you gonna do? I have been held back from a number of things because I always tested poorly. With the GRE, I just dedicated myself to not getting screwed, studied more than the average person, and ended up doing well. If nothing else, it distinguished me from people who were not as dedicated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4922346)

This process absolutely has me on tenterhooks; since I can't get any work done, anyone want to guess when we'll start hearing from schools? February 15th?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4946568)

maybe 750 was too high of a guess; most people I know at top programs did pretty well on that section even though they are not "math people."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4947193)

Most of the people who I know who have gotten into top programs have done well on that section too. But when you're talking about cutoffs, I think 750 is a little high. Then, of course, most of the people who just make the initial cut probably don't ultimately make it, though I do know of several people with less than stellar GRE's who got into top programs. One friend of mine got in to a top three with a 660 verbal and 710 math; good scores, but significantly below the 700/750 you mentioned. I'm just saying that to get through that initial cut, I think high 600's/low 700's in each section will get you through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4947905)

Waiting for a decision is horrible. With undergrad, you pretty much knew you were getting in SOMEWHERE decent. With grad school, you might be out of luck. It makes it all the better when the good news comes, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4948386)

I was notified about funding at the same time, as were most people I know. I am not sure why they would let you know this way without letting you know about funding- let us know how it goes.

Schools have all agreed not to force you to decide until April 15. So, you have plenty of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#4955422)

I'm in a really similar situation to you.. I've just started law school, and anticipate clerking & then doing a few years at a firm. I am hoping to go back for a MA or PhD in philos at some point after graduating; so my question is, do you have any general advice on this process? Better to do it right away or wait a bit? Or just go for a joint degree now? I'm almost convinced that it'll be difficult to get into anywhere decent after completing my JD... do you have any opinions generally on how departments view older applicants?

If you don't want to post in here, please email me at allenzoom74 at yahoo dot com.

Thanks!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5015948)

i think a lot of grad schools like people with experience outside of UG. i think this would include law, especially if it's related to what you want to study in grad school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5017244)

One thing to consider is whether the philosophy department at your current university matches with your philosophical interest. Also, if you are interested in phil law, political phil, etc., I think it would not be a bad idea to go straight through or do a joint program so that you can just keep working on your interests, but this probably isn't that much of a factor. Make sure and take advantage of the course offerings in your law school. I was able to take several philosophy classes in my second and third year and develop some great relationships with philosophy professors who were then able to write me lor's.

Sometimes I wish I had gone straight through, just because I'm going to be in my late 30's before I finish. On the other hand, working at a firm and clerking have been great experiences. Though I hated big firm life, I now know that, so I don't and won't have any regrets about not taking that path, and I learned a great deal. The clerkship, to be honest, is incredible. You don't have to deal with as much bs as when you are practicing; you just focus on research and writing. I've really enjoyed it, and I would recommend you do a clerkship.

I hope this is helpful. If you have any more questions, feel free to post them. I might respond by email next time, but either way, I'll respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5018089)

if i can ask (and you don't have to answer), but what level are you clerking at? i'm really interested in clerking, but i don't attend a top5 and won't finish very close to 1st in my class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5019470)

Best of luck in your applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5021885)

(Sorry this information comes a bit late. All the former readers of whogotin have scattered to the winds, not quite sure where to go.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5028154)

http://lavenderspice.com/poll/survey.php?s_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5029225)

So excited!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5030703)

Kidding. Congrats, that is a fantastic school. I have known some really great people who got rejected from there, so it is certainly an accomplishment. With whom do you want to work? Or do you even know that yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5030922)

If Tufts doesn't happen for me, how reputable are lesser name MA programs in the PhD admissions process? I actually visited Tufts recently and was not at all impressed and one program that is theory orientated and focuses on cultural criticism I find myself attached to. Would completing this type of program put me on equal grounds with undergrads applying from top schools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5034232)

http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/Philosophy/placement.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036980)

http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwphl/philosophy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036987)

I just got into Indiana as well. Not as much of a contender. But I still feel quite lucky.

What a day! I'm sure karma has it in for me, though...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5036381)

Sorry to post this here, but I don't know how else to get in touch with folks.

I was a frequent poster on the 'who_got_in' community over at LiveJournal, and like everyone else, I'm irked by the sudden deletion of such an invaluable source.

In the interest of having some place where we can resume talking with the same format, I've created a 'whogotin' community back over at LiveJournal. Now, this isn't intended to be in "competition" with autoadmit (heh!) - simply another point of access for folks who enjoyed that medium for whatever particular reason.

I can assure you that there shall be absolutely no deleting or active moderating of the community, save in the instance of blatantly insulting material (and even then, only when I've been asked by at least two different people to delete the offending post). I have no interest in "running things" - I just want to get the service back up and running.

If there actually is a new central discussion board, and I just haven't been resourceful enough to find it, please do let me know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5044520)

Oye... melodrama...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5045338)

If you tutor me, and if I score at least a 750 on the GMAT, I will give you $10,000. This is no joke.

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Greetings!!!

I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 598-2899. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.

If this is you, then read on…

I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, here’s the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.

If you are excited so far, then read on…

I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay.

What happens after you tutor me…

When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.

Have a nice weekend!

Thank you!!!

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Email me if interested.

P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5066867)

If you tutor me, and if I score at least a 750 on the GMAT, I will give you $10,000. This is no joke.

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Greetings!!!

I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 598-2899. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.

If this is you, then read on…

I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, here’s the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.

If you are excited so far, then read on…

I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay.

What happens after you tutor me…

When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.

Have a nice weekend!

Thank you!!!

- MiKE Wong

- (813) 598-2899 Yahoo 24 hours IM: Magicauctions123

- Email: MAGICAUCTIONS123 @YAHOO.COM

Email me if interested.

P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!

Email me if interested in this instead.

Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5066869)

i wonder if anyone else has heard anything outside of yale -- which seems to have been the busiest in rejecting folks like me this week.

another weekend spent agonizing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5176076)

http://community.livejournal.com/who_got_in/

Where are you applying? I have heard from Emory - rejected but I still have hope with 5 other schools a couple of MA programs and 3 PhD - just wish I'd hear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5176958)

even after only one rejection, i am already in the position of hoping for just one admittance. just one.

self-esteem definitely takes a hit when the first decision is a no. i can only hope that someone this is all settled by the middle of next week. can't take much more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5180944)

Supposedly people have received offers from Berkeley, NYU and Michigan. Should I start preparing the white flag?

This sucks...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5207061)

My fingers are crossed for you - but as I indicated previously, I doubt you'll need the good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5210241)

I called Michigan and MIT this morning and both the graduate secretaries told me no decisions had been made about me, and that I would hear something by March 15th. Is this tantamount to a rejection, since some people have been presented with offers already? Or is this something like the unofficial waiting list I hear about?

Oi vay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5224456)

Not to be too negative, but getting in off of a waitlist at a top school is pretty difficult, given that so many of the people they accept matriculate. Of course, some turn down NYU to go to Princeton, or Michigan to go to Harvard, but the top schools generally have a good idea of how many to accept. Schools like Minnesota, on the other hand, are more likely to really use a waitlist. It is a good program, but not top, so a lot of people use it as a backup. So, they might accept a certain number, get turned down by most of them (who are going to better programs) and then move straight to the waitlist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5224977)

Do many people transfer much from one phd program to another?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5227320)

I guess I'll have to think of something for next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5243333)

how about the CANADIAN universities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5234013)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5244216)

oedipa, can I be your friend? : )

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5247167)

Basically, I don't want to teach. I just want to be the next gossip-hungry Brian Leiter. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5263760)

Clearly, I'm very torn right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5266628)

Sounds to me like any friend yours is a friend of...the admissions committies!

(This is what Aristotle called a friendship of utility, you understand.)

Just kidding. Any friend of wisdom is a friend of mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5266265)

MIT does, actually, have a waitlist.

Whether or not they'll use it, no one knows, but they do indeed have such a thing.

My apologies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5267127)

Rejected: Cornell, Stanford, MIT

Nothing: Columbia, Harvard, Berkeley, NYU, Princeton, Michigan.

hmmmmmmmm...

I think next year I'm going to apply to cog sci programs and law schools. Phil is too much of a lottery for my liking, not sure if it's worth the time, effort, and $$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5289362)

I applied to NYU too, and called the dept yesterday to check my status. They said that they sent out acceptances 3 weeks ago or so....if you haven't heard anything, that means you're rejected. I share your pain!

I'm waiting on the same schools you are...I'm crossing my fingers for the both of us! So far, I'm 0/4 (Rejected by NYU, Cornell, Yale, and Princeton).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5293071)

Dinged: Stanford, MIT, Princeton, Cornell

Haven't heard: Columbia, NYU, Harvard, Michigan, and Berkeley

Stats: 3.9 overall and in major from JHU, 760 V/770 Q/5.5 AW GRE

Columbia is the only school that hasn't issued acceptaces, so for all intents and purposes I'm presuming a complete shut out this year. I think a lot of it has to do with the highly technical nature of my writing sample (concerning negative feedback in AI) and my focus on logic/cog sci in my course work, though officially I have a double major in philosophy and liberal arts. My plan for next year is to take the LSAT and apply to law schools and in addition apply to programs more suited to what I want to do. As of now I'm thinking:

Pitt HPS, UCI LPS, Berkeley's group in logic & methodology, CMU PhD, Rutgers and UCSD

and a few cog sci programs to boot (namely JHU and Brown)

Anyone have some advice to share on this? I've fallen in love with CMU's program in logic and computation, but I have no idea how competitive it is or what the ad com expects. Should I have better luck with these schools next year? Are there any I should add to my tentative list? Is applying to cog sci out of straight philosophy UG difficult (I have taken some advanced courses in cog sci here at JHU)?

Thanks in advance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5295331)

Oh, and one last thing. As a grad student at Harvard, I can safely say that you are working throughout the entire semester. Many classes have midterms, or periodic writing assignments, though some do only have one big paper at the end. But for those classes where you do only have one big paper at the end, the assumption is that as an adult you will be working on it throughout the semester. For those that choose to throw together 20 page papers entirely during reading period, I'm sure that the end of the semester feels like much more work to them than the rest of the time. But that's because they've chosen to make it that way, not because it's supposed to be that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5310874)

I see that no one has thanked you yet, so let me be the first to express my gratitude to you for taking five minutes out of your grown-up working schedule -- book, bell, and candle balanced carefully in hand, no doubt -- to piss down from heaven.

I'm sure everyone will appreciate another visit next March, too, so please, keep the site bookmarked. We don't want all that wisdom wasted just on the folks at HARVARD!

-- St. Procopius of the North, Class of 02'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5346837)

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let me make my second point. If I had only posted the fact that Harvard acceptances had been sent out already, and left out the fact that I go to Harvard, then dickheads like you would have been racing to respond to me by asking how the fuck I know that. I may not have posted here since I was applying to grad school last year, but I do remember how this troll-infested message board operates.

Third, when I am responding to previous comments that people have made about what it is like to be a graduate student in philosophy at Harvard, I kind of think that it enhances my credibility on that issue to mention the fact that I am one. Once again, had I not mentioned that, people like you would have told me I'm just some kid who doesn't know what he's talking about and needs to shut the fuck up. But instead, let me be the one to tell you that.

I don't need to get my kicks going on anonymous message boards and flaunting my academic credentials. If I wanted to do that, you'd probably see me here a bit more often than you do. But I should thank you for reminding me why I don't post here anymore, and why trying to help out the few decent people who frequent this message board isn't worth the price of putting up with trolls like you. So consider this my last post for another six months: the board is yours asshole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5355884)

Of course, your second post only confirms the seething ressentiment which was merely in utero in your first post. If you're really trying to help the few decent people -- are you one? -- out there then your charity seems to have run out pretty quickly, and turned into something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5359836)

I return actually to apologize in part for my last post. While I think that there was absolutely nothing in my original post that merited your response to it, I will acknowledge that part of the "ressentiment" (you Continental philosophers are great by the way - see now that was patronizing, notice the difference?) you point out is due to past exchanges with people on this message board who were just as presumptuous and ready to attack someone as yourself. Regardless, I didn't need to go as far as I did in attacking you, and for that I am sorry.

So when I speak of the "few decent people" I mean to refer to those who are here to get and share information rather than those who look for any excuse to be critical of someone.

I didn't make my original post to flaunt my academic credentials and I certainly didn't intend to be patronizing. The truth is merely that I applied to graduate school last year and I found this board to be a helpful source of information. In the spirit of giving back, I decided to share what little information I can this year once it dawned on me that it was application season. I was rejected from 7 of the 10 schools that I applied to, and Harvard was one of the last I heard from. It was an agonizing process and I felt that I should try to ease people's anxiety in any way I could, even if it was with bad news - it's better than no news at all. While I feel that I earned my spot at Harvard and don't have to apologize to anyone for being here, I'm also more than grateful to have this opportunity. So now that I've spent all of this time justifying to you my simple effort to be nice, perhaps you can cut me a little slack if I was a a bit incensed at having my motives questioned by some person who has no idea who I am or what I'm about.

And so in keeping with why I posted on this thread in the first place, let me add that while I know it may be too late in the process for it to matter if anyone has any questions about the application process or about what graduate school is like feel free to ask. I don't set myself up as any kind of authority on these subjects (make sure to get that out there right now to head off any potential confusion), but I did apply last year and I am a first year grad student this year so I might be able to answer some questions. Congratulations to all who have been accepted somewhere so far - I hope you find graduate school as intellectually invigorating as I have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5362294)

U of Chicago-Divinity - 50% Tuition Scholarship

U of Hawaii - no awards for MA

Claremont Graduate Univ. - 15% Tuition Scholarship

Leaning toward Chicago but a bit concerned how "Divinity" will look when applying elsewhere for Ph.D in 2 years. Anyone have thoughts? I'm interested in comparative philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5399998)

Sorry you didn't get full funding, but at least you'll be studying somewhere. Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5407948)

btw thank you for introducing a non-IR thread! We gotta get those IR people their own forum or something-- its getting out of control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5530906)

Apparently the philosophy program accepted 15% of the applicants from 1998-2002 (when they averaged 111 applicants per year). For admissions data on all of UCLA's graduate programs, see: http://www.gdnet.ucla.edu/asis/progprofile/profile.asp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5634517)

but:

Average Time to Doctoral Degree (In Years) 9

is that normal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5635544)

The UCLA data is a little out of date- competition has become more fierce every year. Many of the top programs get between 200-250 applications, and admit as few as 10-12. Average GPAs among schools even in the lower part of the top 50 can be as high as 3.8. GREs can vary (MIT and Cornell do not even require them) but they tend to be very high. That is, you had better not rest content with 75th percentile.

Finally, most of this simply qualifies the student. The writing sample and rec letters are the final determining factors. So, I would say it is quite competitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5641024)

Or could I study these on my own and just tell admissions I've studied these subjects from books? (I've been working on my languages lately, but without official credit.)

Max Power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5709252)

It probably depends upon te area in which you are most interested. If Phil Mind, then psych. If phil science, then definitely some natural science courses. Higher math only if you are interested in really difficult logic (or, obviously, phil math). Economics is a good catch-all, however. It is a science (sort of) insofar as it has some scientific methodology. But economic theory has played a big role in political philosophy, ethics, action theory, and practical rationality.

I don't think studying stuff on your own will be all that important to the admission committee. You probably need to be in a class. You might get away with that in terms of the languages if you learn them on your own, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5712525)

2. how much does your undergrad factor in? (does comming from princeton help at all?)

3. i think i may be pwn3d by my overall gpa (3.5), but my departmental gpa (philosophy obviously), will probably be 3.7; is this a big problem?

thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5972882)

I sort of doubt that a 3.5 (3.7) GPA from Princeton would disqualify a candidate from anything (though it probably a below average GPA). The big things are letters of rec and writing sample. Almost everyone who applies has what they think are strong letters and a good writing sample. The key is to stand out in some way. So, it would be good to work with a professor on an independent research project which you would ultimately use as a writing sample. Having a solid "A-paper" writing sample is not good enough. It needs to stand out among 200 very good papers. Also, having a well-known prof say nice things in a letter is not enough. You want the prof to actually think "this person belongs in a PhD program" and be willing to truly vouche for you.

Hope this helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=345010&forum_id=3#5983172)