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New SAT has HUGE INFLATION. I was wondering why so many schools had 1600 75th pe

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/11...
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  02/13/17
Negros will still get piss poor scores because or racism.
Sepia trailer park police squad
  02/13/17
"But a new 1600 is just as perfect as an old 1600."...
Aqua dead whorehouse
  02/13/17
dumb fucking reporters
claret potus foreskin
  02/13/17
how could that possibly be true
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  02/13/17
they're both the max possible score on the test i guarant...
avocado shivering gas station cuck
  03/06/17
The SAT has been SPS since the elimination of analogies, the...
stimulating dark principal's office
  02/13/17
they eliminated the analogies from the sat? so how is i...
supple parlour messiness
  03/27/17
...
Misanthropic incel piazza
  03/27/17
It was RACCISS
Cyan native newt
  04/23/17
Wtf
greedy vigorous mad-dog skullcap menage
  04/23/17
Have you taken a look at the new SAT? It's total dogshit.
Insane crawly hissy fit rehab
  02/13/17
no. describe. why did they change it
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  02/13/17
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Misanthropic incel piazza
  02/13/17
Almost all the g-loaded elements are gone. the math is more ...
misunderstood exciting background story
  02/13/17
i disagree. the whole point of "g" is that it's co...
demanding goyim
  02/13/17
A test full of one-digit addition problems (e.g., 4 + 3 = ?)...
silver telephone location
  02/13/17
...
Spectacular Cuckold
  03/06/17
depends on how it is administered. paced auditory serial add...
Chestnut infuriating sex offender pit
  03/06/17
"g-loaded elements" sounds like aspie flame
big giraffe circlehead
  03/06/17
Is this covert affirmative action?
silver telephone location
  02/13/17
lol no
pontificating stain
  02/13/17
I don't know, brother. Sounds like a good way to curry fa...
silver telephone location
  02/13/17
idk, at most it's aa for white non-strivers
pontificating stain
  02/13/17
they're just trying to get more people to take the ACT; it's...
Spectacular Cuckold
  02/13/17
ACT kicking back to SAT?
silver telephone location
  02/13/17
THE JEWS!
Mahogany theater stage
  02/13/17
overt
Slimy depressive
  03/06/17
1600 75th percentiles? wtf
Flatulent Coldplay Fan Lay
  02/13/17
164 GRE quant masterman here, sup
Primrose titillating brunch voyeur
  02/13/17
the SAT is dying anyway This only helps the ACT even mor...
galvanic casino
  02/13/17
...
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  03/06/17
The shitlibbery started in the mid-90s http://talk.colleg...
rebellious electric stage karate
  03/06/17
why are they doing this
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  03/06/17
i'm sure they get constant complaints about minorities doing...
avocado shivering gas station cuck
  03/06/17
Because everyone is a special snowflake and it makes it easi...
rebellious electric stage karate
  03/06/17
...
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  03/27/17
jigaboo, jigaboo
supple parlour messiness
  03/27/17
...
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  04/23/17
The SATs Should Bring Back Analogies A mastery of words p...
bateful sooty wrinkle temple
  04/23/17


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Date: February 13th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/11/why-your-new-sat-score-is-not-as-strong-as-you-think-it-is/?utm_term=.3406cb9abc55

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612781)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 3:19 PM
Author: Sepia trailer park police squad

Negros will still get piss poor scores because or racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612808)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: Aqua dead whorehouse

"But a new 1600 is just as perfect as an old 1600."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612849)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:14 PM
Author: claret potus foreskin

dumb fucking reporters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613254)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:16 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple

how could that possibly be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613268)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: avocado shivering gas station cuck

they're both the max possible score on the test

i guarantee you they are using that sort of retarded justification

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767170)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: stimulating dark principal's office

The SAT has been SPS since the elimination of analogies, the most g-loaded section.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614421)



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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:52 PM
Author: supple parlour messiness

they eliminated the analogies from the sat?

so how is it different from the acTTT, then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932847)



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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:53 PM
Author: Misanthropic incel piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932861)



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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Cyan native newt

It was RACCISS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141405)



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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: greedy vigorous mad-dog skullcap menage

Wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141407)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:13 PM
Author: Insane crawly hissy fit rehab

Have you taken a look at the new SAT? It's total dogshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613243)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:15 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple

no. describe. why did they change it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613263)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:17 PM
Author: Misanthropic incel piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613280)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:42 PM
Author: misunderstood exciting background story

Almost all the g-loaded elements are gone. the math is more "advanced' because it includes some trig but it's all very basic. no analogies of course, and sentence completion is now gone as well. what a joke.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/sat-practice-test-4.pdf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613519)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: demanding goyim

i disagree. the whole point of "g" is that it's correlated with pretty much any mental task. just because there's some more learnable material does not mean the sat is now useless, as there will still be very hard ceilings for people based on their innate intelligence. the sat and act were and are highly correlated despite the act's greater tendency to focus on achievement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616938)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: silver telephone location

A test full of one-digit addition problems (e.g., 4 + 3 = ?) would test intelligence, but it wouldn't have much power to separate people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32617101)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Spectacular Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32766821)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: Chestnut infuriating sex offender pit

depends on how it is administered. paced auditory serial addition tasks are highly correlated with IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767240)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:04 PM
Author: big giraffe circlehead

"g-loaded elements" sounds like aspie flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767076)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: silver telephone location

Is this covert affirmative action?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613285)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: pontificating stain

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614428)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:53 PM
Author: silver telephone location

I don't know, brother.

Sounds like a good way to curry favor with schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614442)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:14 PM
Author: pontificating stain

idk, at most it's aa for white non-strivers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614610)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: Spectacular Cuckold

they're just trying to get more people to take the ACT; it's part of an insidious plot to get everyone taking both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614448)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:11 PM
Author: silver telephone location

ACT kicking back to SAT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614585)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:33 PM
Author: Mahogany theater stage

THE JEWS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616880)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:56 PM
Author: Slimy depressive

overt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767016)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:12 PM
Author: Flatulent Coldplay Fan Lay

1600 75th percentiles? wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614594)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: Primrose titillating brunch voyeur

164 GRE quant masterman here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616941)



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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: galvanic casino

the SAT is dying anyway

This only helps the ACT even more as it has better separation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32617029)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32766771)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: rebellious electric stage karate

The shitlibbery started in the mid-90s

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/306485-old-pre-1995-sat.html

1500 and change meant something back then. 1600 was like a couple dozen people a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767063)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:16 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple

why are they doing this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767151)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: avocado shivering gas station cuck

i'm sure they get constant complaints about minorities doing worse on their tests, and insisting the problem arises somewhere else in the pipeline never works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767178)



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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:22 PM
Author: rebellious electric stage karate

Because everyone is a special snowflake and it makes it easier to curate the admissions classes at top schools. They can discriminate against Asians and Christians while letting the shitlibs and other minorities in without having a material hit to their numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767197)



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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:49 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932823)



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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:52 PM
Author: supple parlour messiness

jigaboo, jigaboo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932851)



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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141398)



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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: bateful sooty wrinkle temple

The SATs Should Bring Back Analogies

A mastery of words paves the way to serious reading, while the writing test only paves the way to semiliterate prose.

By John McWhorter Oct. 16, 2013

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The SAT high schoolers have been doing lately is not the one you knew. Since 2005, the word analogies – like querulous is to complain as deceitful is to cheat — have been scrapped and students have been required to write an essay instead. Lots of people thought this meant having to show “real” language skills – no more of those “mechanical” analogies.

Well, the verdict is in. It turns our that the essays measure nothing meaningful – or at best, they measure a student’s ability to “bullshit on demand” as MIT’s Les Perelman puts it. Some of this may be that written work is simply incompatible to a standardized test where millions of people must get measured against each other. Evaluators are encouraged to take as little as two minutes to grade these essays. But that means students regularly get high scores for essays written with no regard for fact – who has time to check? – or that don’t even reflect anything they actually believe or feel. Plus they are told they should write with fancy words to look smart. Something is very wrong here. The SAT, created to identify quality of mind in students regardless of background, is now encouraging students to write in a fake and pretentious way.

(MORE: Why Are There No Summer SATs?)

There is, in fact, very little value in making students, or anybody, write an essay in under a half hour if the idea is to assess writing ability. The task corresponds to nothing almost anyone is ever asked to do in life. It’s like a driving test that requires jumping two rivers and stopping on a dime. Meanwhile, what would show an actual advanced mastery of language is those grand old analogies thrown out so confidently in 2005. The movement against analogies started in 2001 with then-University of California President Richard Atkinson broadcasting his dismay at seeing 12-year-old students being drilled in – gasp! – vocabulary. Since then, there has been a widespread movement, from elementary school up to college prep, that it’s backwards to teach students specific words. Many fourth and fifth grade classes have no spelling tests—instead, students are told to go find words they need to “work on.

Someone who has refused this trend is William Dowling, a Rutgers University English professor who has argued that mastery of advanced vocabulary is vital to understanding the texts that college education presents students with. Back when the SAT still included the analogies, he found that the verbal portion of the test correlated quite well with the final grades of his students, and regardless of socioeconomic status. One actual SAT question at the time was “The traditional process of producing an oil painting requires so many steps that it seems ______ to artists who prefer to work quickly. (A) provocative (B) consummate (C) interminable (D) facile (E) prolific.”

The mastery of such words paves the way to reading serious prose, while the writing test paves the way to writing in a canned, formulaic style. It generates mediocrity not just in the present but the future. Since we have abandoned teaching them what words mean, once they get to college they will write in a hollow, semiliterate way, formally passable but mentally vacuous. At least they’ll get to do it slowly.

(MORE: Does Every Kid Need a “Passion”?)

Russian students are steeped in the rococo vocabulary of Pushkin. Orthodox Jewish men are trained in the subtleties of Biblical Hebrew words. Most of us would be baffled to watch students in, say, Italy being taught formal words in their beautiful language and having someone stand by sneering at it as mechanical. Yet wise educators here in the US somehow see things differently. Our make-or-break-it tests must measure a student’s ability to write an elevated rendition of jabbering. Never mind whether she knows what prolific, forlorn, or extemporaneous even mean.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141532)