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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?

is this true? what is it based on?
pearly fragrant lodge
  02/22/17
based on fake academic "research."
learning disabled nursing home sweet tailpipe
  02/23/17
It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.
Exciting Flickering Trump Supporter
  02/22/17
No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo
Ebony Floppy New Version Dragon
  02/22/17
THIS
rough-skinned space boistinker
  02/22/17
Rofl
out-of-control piazza
  02/23/17
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the...
Magenta stain
  02/22/17
...
crimson boyish area
  02/22/17
also, does this take into account country of origin?
pearly fragrant lodge
  02/22/17
I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.
Magenta stain
  02/22/17
Wait. What? Explain how you believe this: "Trump has...
contagious rigpig
  02/23/17
It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tri...
Amethyst Cumskin
  02/23/17
is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget
Harsh trip national fanboi
  02/23/17
You're such a retard paulie
territorial spectacular tanning salon
  02/23/17
...
Startling cream karate
  02/23/17
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the...
light misunderstood pervert legend
  02/22/17
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They...
Nudist provocative station
  02/22/17
...
big travel guidebook box office
  02/23/17
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminal...
Unholy exhilarant center
  02/22/17
Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel sa...
passionate pale wagecucks
  02/23/17
Not when you control for blacks
big travel guidebook box office
  02/23/17
Libs are deranged
territorial spectacular tanning salon
  02/23/17
Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought ove...
wonderful hyperventilating multi-billionaire
  02/23/17
Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself ...
concupiscible death wish address
  02/23/17
Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crim...
irradiated plaza becky
  02/23/17


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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: pearly fragrant lodge

is this true? what is it based on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: learning disabled nursing home sweet tailpipe

based on fake academic "research."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: Exciting Flickering Trump Supporter

It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: Ebony Floppy New Version Dragon

No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: rough-skinned space boistinker

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: out-of-control piazza

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: Magenta stain

It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.

They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.

Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: crimson boyish area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: pearly fragrant lodge

also, does this take into account country of origin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Magenta stain

I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: contagious rigpig

Wait. What?

Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682426)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM
Author: Amethyst Cumskin

It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: Harsh trip national fanboi

is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM
Author: territorial spectacular tanning salon

You're such a retard paulie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: Startling cream karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: light misunderstood pervert legend

you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.

which groups of immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Nudist provocative station

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680718)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: big travel guidebook box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: Unholy exhilarant center

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states

You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: passionate pale wagecucks

Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM
Author: big travel guidebook box office

Not when you control for blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM
Author: territorial spectacular tanning salon

Libs are deranged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: wonderful hyperventilating multi-billionaire

Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: concupiscible death wish address

Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: irradiated plaza becky

Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371)