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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?

is this true? what is it based on?
Curious Box Office
  02/22/17
based on fake academic "research."
Slippery chapel
  02/23/17
It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.
obsidian university alpha
  02/22/17
No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo
cerebral boltzmann azn
  02/22/17
THIS
Sickened Blathering Dopamine Den
  02/22/17
Rofl
wine theater philosopher-king
  02/23/17
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the...
Fishy Self-absorbed Puppy Windowlicker
  02/22/17
...
crawly address genital piercing
  02/22/17
also, does this take into account country of origin?
Curious Box Office
  02/22/17
I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.
Fishy Self-absorbed Puppy Windowlicker
  02/22/17
Wait. What? Explain how you believe this: "Trump has...
hairraiser swollen weed whacker
  02/23/17
It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tri...
Soul-stirring Lake Library Haunted Graveyard
  02/23/17
is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget
hyperventilating tanning salon
  02/23/17
You're such a retard paulie
Nofapping travel guidebook
  02/23/17
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cruel-hearted striped hyena
  02/23/17
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the...
Gaped Flushed Half-breed Liquid Oxygen
  02/22/17
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They...
Misunderstood prole
  02/22/17
...
adventurous dragon
  02/23/17
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminal...
Misanthropic poppy lodge deer antler
  02/22/17
Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel sa...
zippy henna partner
  02/23/17
Not when you control for blacks
adventurous dragon
  02/23/17
Libs are deranged
Nofapping travel guidebook
  02/23/17
Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought ove...
high-end public bath turdskin
  02/23/17
Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself ...
Rough-skinned maize locale shitlib
  02/23/17
Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crim...
Lascivious boiling water step-uncle's house
  02/23/17


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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Curious Box Office

is this true? what is it based on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: Slippery chapel

based on fake academic "research."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: obsidian university alpha

It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: cerebral boltzmann azn

No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Sickened Blathering Dopamine Den

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: wine theater philosopher-king

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: Fishy Self-absorbed Puppy Windowlicker

It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.

They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.

Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: crawly address genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: Curious Box Office

also, does this take into account country of origin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Fishy Self-absorbed Puppy Windowlicker

I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: hairraiser swollen weed whacker

Wait. What?

Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682426)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Lake Library Haunted Graveyard

It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: hyperventilating tanning salon

is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM
Author: Nofapping travel guidebook

You're such a retard paulie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: cruel-hearted striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: Gaped Flushed Half-breed Liquid Oxygen

you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.

which groups of immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Misunderstood prole

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680718)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: adventurous dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: Misanthropic poppy lodge deer antler

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states

You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: zippy henna partner

Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM
Author: adventurous dragon

Not when you control for blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM
Author: Nofapping travel guidebook

Libs are deranged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: high-end public bath turdskin

Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: Rough-skinned maize locale shitlib

Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: Lascivious boiling water step-uncle's house

Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371)