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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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chocolate histrionic half-breed
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Gaped puce reading party
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
overrated maize french chef codepig
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
chocolate histrionic half-breed
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Gaped puce reading party
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
overrated maize french chef codepig
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Thriller Flesh Puppy
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
overrated maize french chef codepig
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
laughsome den preventive strike
  03/18/17
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chocolate histrionic half-breed
  03/18/17
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chocolate histrionic half-breed
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Odious bawdyhouse
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Narrow-minded Center Corn Cake
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Aqua charismatic hall national security agency
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Narrow-minded Center Corn Cake
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
slimy sick orchestra pit useless brakes
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Thriller Flesh Puppy
  03/18/17
what's that?
arousing gas station skinny woman
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  03/19/17
tmf
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Thriller Flesh Puppy
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Claret indian lodge
  04/27/17
explain
Thriller Flesh Puppy
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Claret indian lodge
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Poppy Metal Tattoo
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Chartreuse Really Tough Guy
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
razzmatazz hateful water buffalo ape
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Thriller Flesh Puppy
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
nubile garrison gay wizard
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: chocolate histrionic half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Gaped puce reading party

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: overrated maize french chef codepig

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: chocolate histrionic half-breed

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Gaped puce reading party

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: overrated maize french chef codepig

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: overrated maize french chef codepig

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: laughsome den preventive strike

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: chocolate histrionic half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: chocolate histrionic half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Odious bawdyhouse

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Center Corn Cake

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Aqua charismatic hall national security agency

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Center Corn Cake

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: slimy sick orchestra pit useless brakes

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: arousing gas station skinny woman

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Concupiscible cyan office

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Heady hideous abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Seedy awkward digit ratio

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Claret indian lodge

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Claret indian lodge

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Poppy Metal Tattoo

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Chartreuse Really Tough Guy

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: razzmatazz hateful water buffalo ape

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: nubile garrison gay wizard

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Glittery fluffy sneaky criminal

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Glittery fluffy sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Thriller Flesh Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)