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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Sick Comical Therapy
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Burgundy up-to-no-good casino
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Underhanded lilac field half-breed
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Sick Comical Therapy
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Burgundy up-to-no-good casino
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Underhanded lilac field half-breed
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Underhanded lilac field half-breed
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Massive mint preventive strike
  03/18/17
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Sick Comical Therapy
  03/18/17
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Sick Comical Therapy
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
pearl skinny woman box office
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
talking dashing water buffalo
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
cream vengeful organic girlfriend juggernaut
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
talking dashing water buffalo
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Ungodly national roommate
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  03/18/17
what's that?
purple patrolman
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
Onyx Diverse Address
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Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  03/19/17
tmf
180 state circlehead
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Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
galvanic aqua sex offender tanning salon
  04/27/17
explain
Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
galvanic aqua sex offender tanning salon
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Flirting Filthpig
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
passionate ruby famous landscape painting pozpig
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
sickened range lettuce
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Electric Indecent Principal's Office
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Sick Comical Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Burgundy up-to-no-good casino

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Underhanded lilac field half-breed

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Sick Comical Therapy

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Burgundy up-to-no-good casino

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Underhanded lilac field half-breed

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Underhanded lilac field half-breed

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Massive mint preventive strike

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Sick Comical Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Sick Comical Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: pearl skinny woman box office

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: talking dashing water buffalo

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: cream vengeful organic girlfriend juggernaut

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: talking dashing water buffalo

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Ungodly national roommate

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: purple patrolman

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Onyx Diverse Address

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Apoplectic psychic laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: 180 state circlehead

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: galvanic aqua sex offender tanning salon

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: galvanic aqua sex offender tanning salon

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Flirting Filthpig

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: passionate ruby famous landscape painting pozpig

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: sickened range lettuce

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Electric Indecent Principal's Office

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Tan Concupiscible Immigrant

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Tan Concupiscible Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Laughsome Confused Bawdyhouse Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)