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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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irate cerebral stag film
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
diverse carmine police squad
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
fragrant twinkling uncleanness center
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
irate cerebral stag film
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
diverse carmine police squad
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
fragrant twinkling uncleanness center
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
razzle-dazzle shitlib
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
fragrant twinkling uncleanness center
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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irate cerebral stag film
  03/18/17
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irate cerebral stag film
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
brass corn cake coffee pot
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
chrome at-the-ready brunch
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Titillating cheese-eating affirmative action indirect expression
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
chrome at-the-ready brunch
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Motley buff gay wizard
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
razzle-dazzle shitlib
  03/18/17
what's that?
dull philosopher-king immigrant
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  03/19/17
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razzle-dazzle shitlib
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
racy sapphire location cumskin
  04/27/17
explain
razzle-dazzle shitlib
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
racy sapphire location cumskin
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Disgusting arousing library jap
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
lascivious range son of senegal
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
metal bull headed forum jew
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
razzle-dazzle shitlib
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
comical ticket booth
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: irate cerebral stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: diverse carmine police squad

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: fragrant twinkling uncleanness center

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: irate cerebral stag film

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: diverse carmine police squad

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: fragrant twinkling uncleanness center

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: fragrant twinkling uncleanness center

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: rough-skinned pea-brained water buffalo multi-billionaire

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: irate cerebral stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: irate cerebral stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: brass corn cake coffee pot

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: chrome at-the-ready brunch

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Titillating cheese-eating affirmative action indirect expression

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: chrome at-the-ready brunch

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Motley buff gay wizard

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: dull philosopher-king immigrant

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: charismatic bat shit crazy sneaky criminal sound barrier

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: adventurous roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Startling white liquid oxygen

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: racy sapphire location cumskin

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: racy sapphire location cumskin

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Disgusting arousing library jap

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: lascivious range son of senegal

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: metal bull headed forum jew

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: comical ticket booth

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: glassy misanthropic point

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: glassy misanthropic point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)