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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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dull travel guidebook
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
bonkers station police squad
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Mauve scourge upon the earth locale
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
dull travel guidebook
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
bonkers station police squad
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Mauve scourge upon the earth locale
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Fluffy Property Laser Beams
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Mauve scourge upon the earth locale
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Poppy Doobsian Set Organic Girlfriend
  03/18/17
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dull travel guidebook
  03/18/17
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dull travel guidebook
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Cyan aromatic puppy
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
transparent pervert institution
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
swashbuckling yellow office electric furnace
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
transparent pervert institution
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Territorial Death Wish Tattoo
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Fluffy Property Laser Beams
  03/18/17
what's that?
Bespoke Blathering Legal Warrant Brunch
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  03/19/17
tmf
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Fluffy Property Laser Beams
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Insecure high-end pit immigrant
  04/27/17
explain
Fluffy Property Laser Beams
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Insecure high-end pit immigrant
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Light twisted feces
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Effete azure business firm macaca
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
duck-like lettuce crackhouse
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Fluffy Property Laser Beams
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Hyperventilating step-uncle's house fat ankles
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: dull travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: bonkers station police squad

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Mauve scourge upon the earth locale

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: dull travel guidebook

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: bonkers station police squad

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Mauve scourge upon the earth locale

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Mauve scourge upon the earth locale

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Poppy Doobsian Set Organic Girlfriend

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: dull travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: dull travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Cyan aromatic puppy

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: transparent pervert institution

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: swashbuckling yellow office electric furnace

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: transparent pervert institution

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Territorial Death Wish Tattoo

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Bespoke Blathering Legal Warrant Brunch

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Racy cobalt shrine

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Trip misunderstood philosopher-king reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Shimmering site

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Insecure high-end pit immigrant

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Insecure high-end pit immigrant

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Light twisted feces

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Effete azure business firm macaca

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: duck-like lettuce crackhouse

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Hyperventilating step-uncle's house fat ankles

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: frisky charcoal striped hyena point

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: frisky charcoal striped hyena point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Fluffy Property Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)