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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
massive parlor
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Ivory church building
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
massive parlor
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Ivory church building
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Ivory church building
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio
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Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Sadistic Slimy Cruise Ship
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
appetizing sepia public bath cuckoldry
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
swashbuckling amber market boiling water
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
appetizing sepia public bath cuckoldry
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Nudist Amethyst Messiness Sound Barrier
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  03/18/17
what's that?
Impertinent translucent rehab
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
Milky Odious Business Firm
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Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
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Light Blood Rage Headpube
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Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  03/19/17
tmf
sick onyx church
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Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Khaki know-it-all den
  04/27/17
explain
Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Khaki know-it-all den
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Smoky Corn Cake
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Flatulent citrine dilemma kitty cat
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Trip Ape
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Avocado mad-dog skullcap sex offender
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: massive parlor

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Ivory church building

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: massive parlor

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Ivory church building

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Ivory church building

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Misanthropic alcoholic liquid oxygen

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Filthy rambunctious field digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Sadistic Slimy Cruise Ship

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: appetizing sepia public bath cuckoldry

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: swashbuckling amber market boiling water

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: appetizing sepia public bath cuckoldry

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Nudist Amethyst Messiness Sound Barrier

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Impertinent translucent rehab

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Milky Odious Business Firm

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Light Blood Rage Headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: sick onyx church

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Khaki know-it-all den

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Khaki know-it-all den

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Smoky Corn Cake

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Flatulent citrine dilemma kitty cat

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Trip Ape

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Avocado mad-dog skullcap sex offender

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: territorial set

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: territorial set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Startling zombie-like sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)