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UC Berkeley v. University of Chicago for undergrad

if you're in-state CA
Self-absorbed point
  09/12/17
18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.
Cobalt erotic stag film
  09/12/17
why the change
Self-absorbed point
  09/12/17
Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.
ruddy titillating home sandwich
  09/12/17
here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages...
rusted fanboi
  09/12/17
top schools offer generous finaid packages.
transparent soggy toilet seat
  09/12/17
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Very tactful orchid box office clown
  09/12/17
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odious bonkers new version
  09/12/17
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talented lodge tank
  09/12/17
"good school" would be Berkeley good luck keeping...
talented lodge tank
  09/12/17
Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. ...
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play
trip outnumbered base knife
  09/12/17
you work for a CC? how much hard STEM stuff does your CC ...
trip outnumbered base knife
  09/12/17
a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with &quo...
rusted fanboi
  09/12/17
Berkeley EECS
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian...
Vibrant library international law enforcement agency
  09/12/17
Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year) http://financ...
trip outnumbered base knife
  09/12/17
WOW FOR IN STATE? HOLY SHIT
Vibrant library international law enforcement agency
  09/12/17
tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of th...
trip outnumbered base knife
  09/12/17
it's $14k for tuition
marvelous field people who are hurt
  09/12/17
what a fucking ripoff
odious bonkers new version
  09/12/17
http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-...
Self-absorbed point
  09/12/17
LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
Tripling for in state!
Vibrant library international law enforcement agency
  09/12/17
both seem like they'd be miserable experiences
splenetic boltzmann
  09/12/17
Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school wit...
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shit...
splenetic boltzmann
  09/12/17
yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto...
concupiscible indian lodge
  09/12/17
I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am ea...
arousing dysfunction garrison
  09/13/17
sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right? i'm g...
concupiscible indian lodge
  09/13/17
When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admi...
arousing dysfunction garrison
  09/13/17
fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and yo...
concupiscible indian lodge
  09/13/17
(PROLE)
Internet-worthy Shrine
  09/12/17
true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy
splenetic boltzmann
  09/12/17
berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS
marvelous field people who are hurt
  09/12/17
poors can go to shit Ivies for free
talented lodge tank
  09/12/17
well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these ca...
marvelous field people who are hurt
  09/12/17
this is a shitty straw man in these conversations there's...
trip outnumbered base knife
  09/12/17
If money is no object, obviously Chicago. If the choice i...
odious bonkers new version
  09/12/17
why is it obvious they're academically equal I guess Chica...
talented lodge tank
  09/12/17
It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off...
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
even not doing stem lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicag...
marvelous field people who are hurt
  09/12/17
I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago i...
talented lodge tank
  09/12/17
Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.
bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting
  09/12/17
and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and...
splenetic boltzmann
  09/12/17
Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, f...
odious bonkers new version
  09/12/17
(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospec...
arousing dysfunction garrison
  09/13/17
Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STE...
arousing dysfunction garrison
  09/13/17
They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame....
odious bonkers new version
  09/12/17
Two words: Asian girls
Geriatric crackhouse cuckoldry
  09/12/17
Ungh
Rebellious Hairless Hospital Legal Warrant
  09/13/17
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons...
odious bonkers new version
  09/13/17
Cal not even close
Brilliant Doctorate Psychic
  09/13/17


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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Self-absorbed point

if you're in-state CA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191657)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: Cobalt erotic stag film

18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191674)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Self-absorbed point

why the change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191713)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: ruddy titillating home sandwich

Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193789)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: rusted fanboi

here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages and you put them on the table. you then light them on fire and put them in the sink.

then, you apply to CC with some type of hard STEM. you murder it. get As. transfer to a good school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191706)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: transparent soggy toilet seat

top schools offer generous finaid packages.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191715)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: Very tactful orchid box office clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191857)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192216)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: talented lodge tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192222)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: talented lodge tank

"good school" would be Berkeley

good luck keeping up after 2 years of shit training at CC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191845)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. People turn down freshman admissions to lower UCs to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191964)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: trip outnumbered base knife

if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192035)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: trip outnumbered base knife

you work for a CC?

how much hard STEM stuff does your CC offer?

I looked at the hard STEM offerings at CCs a while back (not CA, where I guess the CC system is more developed)

and the options in terms of credits you could transfer into an engineering program or CS program at the big state school were pretty shitty

you could probably knock out all the gen ed requirement, but actually getting classes that would count towards a STEM major past the intro classes weren't that good

to get an engineering degree or a CS degree, you were probably still looking at 3 more years

(this was 10 or so years ago, so maybe they've really improved the offerings since then, idk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192029)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: rusted fanboi

a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with "articulation agreements" in place. ask the physics/engineering office who they have articulation agreements with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192408)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

Berkeley EECS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191831)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: Vibrant library international law enforcement agency

Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian can get WRT to higher education and future opportunities assuming tuition isn't fucking insane now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191867)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191877)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: trip outnumbered base knife

Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year)

http://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191885)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Vibrant library international law enforcement agency

WOW FOR IN STATE?

HOLY SHIT



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191894)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: trip outnumbered base knife

tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of the cost of attending Berkeley than it is for nearly any other school, RE costs and all

but yeah, Beckersted's analysis looking better and better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191957)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: marvelous field people who are hurt

it's $14k for tuition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192221)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version

what a fucking ripoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192220)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Self-absorbed point

http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-california-berkeley-uc.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191961)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191969)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:54 AM
Author: Vibrant library international law enforcement agency

Tripling for in state!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191974)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: splenetic boltzmann

both seem like they'd be miserable experiences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192119)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school with sports, frats, at least some hot girls - you can definitely have fun there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192123)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: splenetic boltzmann

Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shitlib institution stands for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192129)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: concupiscible indian lodge

yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto smart if you go there, but that's outweighed by these things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193742)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: arousing dysfunction garrison

I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am early 30s, but i am not impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197939)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: concupiscible indian lodge

sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right?

i'm going to revise and put it this way.

anyone who would apply to chicago and berkeley should choose uc if they get in. you've already indicated that you are more concerned about being a brainiac than having a typical, fun college experience. therefore, choose the brainiac school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197991)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: arousing dysfunction garrison

When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admissions rate was like 40% and avg sat was low

I would never pick a school w/o a good engineering program. There is pretty much no reason to go to school otherwise.

Most majors are unemployable..just do CS or EECS and get paid 120k starting at 22 easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198015)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:55 AM
Author: concupiscible indian lodge

fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and you're a shitlib. choosing berkely over uc was a mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198110)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Shrine

(PROLE)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192185)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: splenetic boltzmann

true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192191)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: marvelous field people who are hurt

berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192149)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: talented lodge tank

poors can go to shit Ivies for free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192194)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: marvelous field people who are hurt

well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these cases, otherwise you'd get more aid at berkeley too, try to keep up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192198)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: trip outnumbered base knife

this is a shitty straw man in these conversations

there's a middle ground between grew up in a trailer park, so the Ivy's will just comp tuition

and parents are millionaires who are totally price insensitive

----------

the vast majority of students who will qualify for any of these schools have parents who are right in the zone to soaked of a substantial percentage of their net worth

think, parents combined make $150K or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192234)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version

If money is no object, obviously Chicago.

If the choice is between < 10,000/y and > 60,000/y, obviously Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192215)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: talented lodge tank

why is it obvious

they're academically equal

I guess Chicago is more exclusive (far fewer spots) does that matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192240)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off attending Berkeley, doing STEM, and copping a tech jerb in CA than spending 4 years at U Chicago for the same price. All SV firms recruit heavily from Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192249)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:38 AM
Author: marvelous field people who are hurt

even not doing stem

lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192259)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: talented lodge tank

I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago is CR (great math dept, econ, etc) then I remember Berkeley is just as good or better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192264)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: bistre misunderstood elastic band famous landscape painting

Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192269)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: splenetic boltzmann

and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and beckys who end up there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192281)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version

Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, fine.

Even then, you're better off attending a private institution, because presumably there will be more resources in terms of academic and career advising, and more research opportunities, because you're not competing with Chang, Pradeep, and Ahmed *100 for Prof. Shlomoshekelbergstein's attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192312)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: arousing dysfunction garrison

(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospects)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197949)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: arousing dysfunction garrison

Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STEM these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197946)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version

They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame.

Exclusivity does matter, for the same reason that you'd rather go to CLS than GULC, work at BCG than PWC.

It's a signal of socioeconomic class, intelligence, and work ethic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192283)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Geriatric crackhouse cuckoldry

Two words: Asian girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193041)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Rebellious Hairless Hospital Legal Warrant

Ungh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197745)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: odious bonkers new version

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons/images/banner_img.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197784)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: Brilliant Doctorate Psychic

Cal not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197996)