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she went by "the box"
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I miss chatting with box. Hope she is well, but no motivatio...
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This same story has been repeating as long as there have bee...
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does this actually work or is it just old person flame?
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Do you remember Sforza?
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pink floppy address generalized bond
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Btw i didn't mean lateraling I just meant going from service...
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I know a lot of servicebros with this attitude. I think it t...
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Tall listed first - you must really like it here
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pink floppy address generalized bond
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This is pretty CR. Transitioned from law --> biz and wor...
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Equity or non-equity?
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Ain't no strict prohibition on service partners receiving eq...
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Did you have to buy in to your salary?
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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:10 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:10 PM
Author: Mind-boggling turdskin rehab

she went by "the box"

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:11 PM
Author: Shimmering Slimy Market



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:41 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

I miss chatting with box. Hope she is well, but no motivation to cyberstalk her or w/e.

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:04 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

This same story has been repeating as long as there have been msgboarts. Saw it on BBSs, saw it on usenet. Happens whenever you mix axis ii females with a pack of nerdy guys jockeying for dominance.

All comes down to control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265785)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 4:36 AM
Author: Slate knife

does this actually work or is it just old person flame?

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:15 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

Do you remember Sforza?

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond

No

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:43 PM
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:58 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:28 PM
Author: learning disabled tank

Leave boner Police alone

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:11 PM
Author: Shimmering Slimy Market

Box?

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:12 PM
Author: mauve national security agency

Fellow partner bro here

*secret handshake*

What's your gross income?

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:22 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

180000000

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:32 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:25 PM
Author: Mind-boggling turdskin rehab

Can I have 1btc

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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:38 PM
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: canary parlor useless brakes

How has Dorsey & Whitney met your expectations?

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:12 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:12 PM
Author: Offensive lay

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:08 AM
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Congratulations!

Are you a pure service partner? One primary rainmaker or are you a ronin? Any plans to enter the next level or has your appetite for striving deserted you?



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:25 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Btw i didn't mean lateraling I just meant going from service to truEquity.

So how's Minneapolis? Hehe

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:34 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:41 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

I know a lot of servicebros with this attitude. I think it the height of folly! Sales is artificial, it can be LEARNED. Often ppl like this are just uncomfortable with the proposition that they have value & it needs to be marketed.

You are in the catbird seat! Just think of the conferences you could attend, the bizdev shit you could charge, the hum electric of a whole firm alive with the thrum of associates and partners, three a.m. on what was just a Friday night, them closing your deal as you dream

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Tall listed first - you must really like it here

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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:35 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:42 PM
Author: hairraiser nighttime selfie

This is pretty CR. Transitioned from law --> biz and work with biz dev people a lot. If you learn some basic sales skills, you can make rain. IMO the notion that only true extroverts can sell is something everyone believes that is not true.

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Date: October 16th, 2017 8:24 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:20 PM
Author: Demanding mother fat ankles

As a partner does it irk you when underlings threaten to file discrimination lawsuits? Does it irk you because you know that said lawsuits have merit?

Are you married?

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:26 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: Motley lilac degenerate national

Describe how much you love telling associates you need an assignment by a given date even though you aren't going to look at it until for days after that date.

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: garnet adventurous goal in life

lol what a shit job. treat everyone else as shit and don't expect it to roll back at you one day?

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: multi-colored trump supporter cuck



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:27 PM
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac jew

You've verbalized well what I've experienced as a senior associate. When I give juniors assignments and they ask me for a deadline, I usually have no idea so I just pick something short, while still trying to be reasonable.

And, what happens some of the time is that for one reason or another, the need for the task becomes delayed, but I haven't gotten a pencils down, so I let the junior finish the work and then look at it when the matter becomes urgent again.

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: passionate cumskin

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:28 PM
Author: frisky hominid

Equity or non-equity?

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:31 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:33 PM
Author: frisky hominid

Ain't no strict prohibition on service partners receiving equity, but I suppose you saying you ain't got none.

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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:36 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:39 PM
Author: frisky hominid

Did you have to buy in to your salary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265098)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265172)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: frisky hominid

Just checking. Lawyers can be creative little shits sometimes.

I've never heard of that, but it wouldn't be impossible. You could theoretically purchase the right to be a non-economic member of a PLLC or something like that and then apply that toward equity if it ever happens to come.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265202)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: garnet adventurous goal in life

lol:

MP: welcome aboard!

ESQ: thanks!

MP: now about the 250k check....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34268150)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:44 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

What are those things to do to make equity other than, obviously, bringing in business?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265140)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265187)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:53 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

Is there ever a fight about who gets credit? I'm going to move some business to a senior associate once he makes partner, but the work won't be in his section and I wonder how much it'll help him. Will at least prove he can bring it in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265208)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265316)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

Will it help him in the talks you referenced above? This won't build him a huge book, but it will prove that he can bring in work at his firm's high rates from large clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265373)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265442)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:30 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

Your last sentence is what helped, thanks.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265501)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: Sable awkward space psychic

Who were the most controversial posters back in your day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265103)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:44 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265138)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:39 AM
Author: supple prole

we've expanded the definition of female here to maintain that percentage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265880)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Out-of-control claret step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34267918)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:44 PM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

Do you like the work you do?

Do you know any partners your age who are in better positions with equity and shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265143)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265229)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

How did those people you know get books?

What do you mean by new techology? Do you do ip transactional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265242)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265275)



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Date: September 23rd, 2017 6:17 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

"See Bobby Cohen over there? Well, they call him Tony Stark, because he's always building new technology for when we assemble the Agreement Avengers. Just last year, he got a counterparty to accept a seller Friendly MAC rep with TWO WORDS different from market."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34274881)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: Comical trailer park fanboi

How the hell are you still having to work til 9 each night? I'm a senior associate in an amlaw250 firm and I leave around 3-4 each day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265448)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265525)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:30 AM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

Would you make the same billing more humane hours in, say, IP or environmental?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265849)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:42 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265892)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: big toaster plaza

Describe your wife's cans and panties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265144)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265344)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:13 PM
Author: big toaster plaza

That's classy as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265361)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:29 AM
Author: canary parlor useless brakes

He made it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266057)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 4:38 AM
Author: Slate knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266549)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:44 AM
Author: Out-of-control claret step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34267929)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: Chartreuse fragrant base preventive strike

How can I get out of my traffic ticket?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265149)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:02 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265282)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: frisky hominid

(1) "Spot first went to the groomer in January 2016."

(2) "Spot first went to the groomer in January, 2016."

Comma or no comma?

GO.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265163)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 10:59 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265260)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: big toaster plaza

You seem to have skipped over my question about your wife's cans and panties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265272)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: Dashing theater

What kind of lunatic puts a comma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265290)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:24 PM
Author: frisky hominid

I see it, man. I see it often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273272)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273463)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:09 PM
Author: very tactful goyim

Have you ever had a client fire you (essentially kick u off their matter)?

Do you have to present at conferences?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265328)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265390)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:22 PM
Author: very tactful goyim

Why were they replaced?

InHouse Mo now. We recently shit canned a firm mainly bc I've been taking in more of their work (a portion got sent to another firm). I really liked the associate but fucking hated the partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265434)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265491)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: Bateful stag film mood

If the relationship was good that would never have mattered. I've seen actual mistakes get the "it is what it is" treatment. Because what you said about guessing other peoples' intentions is very true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265537)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:39 PM
Author: very tactful goyim

Damn. Sucks in the first scenario.

Is the partner in the second one a dick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265546)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266098)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:42 PM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

Do you plan on posting regularly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265566)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265584)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:13 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Going to need your team to get us a proposed budget by cob tomorrow. Thanks and have a blessed day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265773)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265784)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:16 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Actually now that you mention it I'm going to be in an off-site until next month with Ray and his team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265789)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

What’s you your number of girls fucked prior to marriage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265574)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265580)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

Rate your self objectively . At what age did you get married

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265595)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:50 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265634)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: supple prole

what are your vices?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265890)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265908)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: submissive rigpig gay wizard

Why do you read the wsj? Do you actually think you’re a part of the business world?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265967)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265993)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: mauve national security agency

We may in fact be twins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34268179)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:00 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273114)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:28 PM
Author: mauve national security agency

I would but I rarely make it to NYC these days. I'm also a secondary marketmo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273296)



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Date: September 25th, 2017 8:48 PM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Nah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34295586)



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Date: September 23rd, 2017 1:30 AM
Author: Curious skinny woman mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34274397)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265946)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond

When did this board start the hard core white supremacy stuff? It was liberal for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265961)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:15 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

couple years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265995)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: mauve national security agency

There was always a fringe movement (see, e.g., white pride tp), it's just become mainstream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34268204)



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Date: September 25th, 2017 8:46 PM
Author: obsidian razzle azn

White pride tp was turdskin too. Premonition of the alt-right...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34295574)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:15 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

how much is your monthly credit card bill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34265997)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266007)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

i got an offer to go in house litigation 8-6 for $180k, which is less than half what i make now. should i take it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266000)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:19 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266019)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:22 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

even if it is in a TTT industry? the main things they kept asking me were (1) can u take a massive pay cut and (2) you must come in at 8AM everyday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266036)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:30 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266059)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: Plum locus

$180k is not bad depending on factors...8-6 is kinda tough though depending on commute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34267878)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: Motley lilac degenerate national

Exit strategy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266008)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266028)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

should i buy an aston martin vantage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266010)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:24 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266048)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

im of counsel but my fortunes shift in the wind. any year they could shitcan me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266051)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:37 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

savings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266077)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266082)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:39 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

how much do u save a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266084)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:42 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266091)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM
Author: Geriatric sanctuary

Why not get a chill 9-5 and semi retire?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266542)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:44 AM
Author: light laughsome pit love of her life

lit or transactional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266095)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266102)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 3:23 AM
Author: Anal gas station

Race?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34266404)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:22 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273256)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: glittery useless halford garrison

SOMEBODY CALL THE ROOM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34267819)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Plum locus

Who is OP? We would've been similar class year so I'm curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34267898)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:24 AM
Author: glittery useless halford garrison

What's the deal with pensive? Or did you miss that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34268191)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 9:58 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273102)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:02 PM
Author: Thirsty flushed sandwich

Requesting ABUSE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273125)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273208)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: Thirsty flushed sandwich

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273592)



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Date: September 23rd, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Beady-eyed brethren really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34274251)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:35 PM
Author: mint 180 idiot

how long did it take you to get to 800k-1m comp at your prior firm?

i do traditional labor (and some employment). i'm about to make partner at a v60ish firm where all partners have at least some equity component to their comp. we don't pay lockstep (but first years are paid $180k). from what i've heard i'll likely make in the 320-340k range my first year as partner. how TTT is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273337)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273409)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: mint 180 idiot

fuck, that's a lot for a junior partner. i imagine i will be a service partner and hopefully inherit some clients from the rainmaker who hired me (and who nominated me for partner). if i top out at 450-500k i'll be good with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273459)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273484)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: mint 180 idiot

DC. yeah, i really have no clue what the salary looks like for a service partner at my firm.

it's pretty tough to make a traditional labor practice work at a biglaw firm. the most senior partners in my group bill out at around $650, which is obviously low. but people aren't paying $800 an hour (for the most part) for a lawyer to litigate NLRB cases and negotiate union contracts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273534)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34273640)



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Date: September 23rd, 2017 6:09 AM
Author: pearly chapel twinkling uncleanness

Hard to believe we keep this scam running.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3739431&forum_id=2#34274872)



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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:44 PM
Author: Dark heady station

Congrats

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Date: September 22nd, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: pink floppy address generalized bond



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Date: September 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: Plum locus

You still haven't answered who you are because I've been posting since 2003 and would've remembered any regular poster in the mid-2000 era!

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Date: September 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM
Author: mint 180 idiot

Not necessarily. I've been posting since like 2011 and I doubt anyone would remember me (even under my original moniker zurichisstained). Only a handful of posters stand out here

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Date: September 23rd, 2017 7:19 AM
Author: misanthropic background story

I remember zurichisstained!

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Date: September 23rd, 2017 7:20 AM
Author: mint 180 idiot

Hello brother!

All I've ever posted about is hardcore music, dc in the 80s and 90s and questions about whether to leave midlaw for biglaw and then vice versa

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