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Do law firm partners use personal LLCs to write off their cars and shit?

Please explain to a non-taxmo
excitant gaping
  10/17/17
you mean s-corp PC's. attorneys cant be LLCs. no limited ...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
you know of biglaw partners who signed their biglaw partners...
rusted gunner
  10/17/17
it depends on the biglaw partnership. some firms seem to all...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
wow, that would be huge for self-employment tax purposes
rusted gunner
  10/17/17
not a tax MFE or a partner, but isnt a partner's draw not tr...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
If he’s a “partner” it should show up on a schedule K Flo...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
Cr. it would flow up to his S corp, where he would then pay...
rusted gunner
  10/17/17
Which works great until the first audit. The IRS says that l...
talking yellow multi-billionaire
  10/17/17
irs doesnt say this.
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
i thought that rule was for c-corps though. Personal holding...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
(lol @ Are Reptile's SPS legal analysis getting shouted down...
comical pistol
  10/17/17
Yeah he’s done here. Tried to play outside his 25% tax brack...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
...
excitant gaping
  04/02/18
i assume what's exactly the idea.
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
Some put it on their pleadings too
Opaque shrine
  10/17/17
Morty R. Weisenberg, P.C. Alvin J. Schwartz, P.C. DLA PIPE...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
Always wondered if this is even arguably legally necessary o...
Opaque shrine
  10/17/17
i dont think the pleading needs to state this shit. the idea...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
I think the P.C. statute says you have to identify yourself ...
dashing outnumbered school hominid
  10/17/17
where do we draw the line? does every thanks email to th...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
It works if the flag has gold fringe, so they know you mean ...
dashing outnumbered school hominid
  10/17/17
Link?
dashing outnumbered school hominid
  10/17/17
https://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?contentID=220&i...
Opaque shrine
  10/17/17
That's crazy. I guess the statute says a person can serve as...
dashing outnumbered school hominid
  10/17/17
doesn't this basically let u know which ones are the kirklan...
histrionic seedy mother mad-dog skullcap
  10/17/17
PC means they're equity, but absence of a PC is indeterminat...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
yes
Opaque shrine
  10/17/17
yup
Vibrant kitty public bath
  10/17/17
MISINFORMATION ALERT. Plenty of equity partners don’t have p...
Swollen masturbator
  10/17/17
(Kirkland 12th year)
histrionic seedy mother mad-dog skullcap
  10/17/17
this is what I was talking about
excitant gaping
  10/18/17
There are professional LLCs out there. They just don't abso...
180 hospital
  10/17/17
i suppose it depends on the state, then. i've seen "...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
They are available in New York.
180 hospital
  10/17/17
well, then. i dunno why mfh biglawyers are all PC's
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
There are plenty of LLPs. Or are you talking about single a...
180 hospital
  10/17/17
yes, i'm talking about a single attorey
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
i think earl looked into this stuff
Grizzly vivacious locale
  10/17/17
Stew is a write off?
mind-boggling stag film
  10/17/17
...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
...
racy field
  10/17/17
...
Lake kitty cat
  10/17/17
...
adventurous immigrant brunch
  10/17/17
If they aren’t retarded, yes. They make enough that the expe...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
You can't just randomly expense a car lmao. If you got audi...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
tbf, that's how the rich live. w2 wagecucks lose out on so m...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
wow!
Translucent razzle-dazzle church
  10/17/17
Home office, sure. And probably a lot of meals, but no, the...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
who are biglaw partners socializing with? lawyers and other ...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
lol it doesn't work like that
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
I get it now. You’re Agent Jenkins from the IRS. GTFO
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
it exactly works like that. drinks w your law school budd...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
I mean if you lie and say that's what all your meetings are ...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
(Agent Jenkins playing good cop)
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
are you kidding? yes it is.
nudist curious chapel knife
  10/18/17
my wife’s an inhouse lawyer and we right off everything we d...
claret cruise ship prole
  10/18/17
Holy fuck you’re done here lmao
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
(guy that thinks the rich "write off" their vacati...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
I know quite a bit more about what “rich people” do on their...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
lol im definitely not a wage cuck
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
they write off their vacations tho as "conferences"...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
yeah they won't hold up if audited, unless you can show the ...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
(Agent Jenkins laying a honeypot)
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
I don't believe there is an advantage to using an S-corp ove...
misunderstood therapy doctorate
  10/17/17
YNYYYY I like this structure The fact that you end in a w...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
it's a professional corporation called "Earl Manigoat, ...
misunderstood therapy doctorate
  10/17/17
Audit risk doesn’t really matter anyway as long as you have ...
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
Read rules for deducting "company car" expenses. ...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
STFU Agent Jenkins
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
I mean if you don't get audited you have nothing to worry ab...
Pink impertinent spot
  10/17/17
(Agent Jenkins running false flag flame)
Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home
  10/17/17
your audit risk is much less as a corp than on a schedule C,...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
ljl this is goyishe >>Corporation pays for some tra...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
How does your medicare tax work-- only on the 160k?
rusted gunner
  10/17/17
i pay myself the balance of my comp as a end of year bonus, ...
misunderstood therapy doctorate
  10/18/17
btw, you have to allocate your home internet, cell phone, et...
misanthropic address dingle berry
  10/17/17
Yeah. All the time.
blue zombie-like nowag
  10/17/17
They just WRITE IT OFF, JERRY!
greedy aromatic site organic girlfriend
  10/17/17
"...but they do, and they're the ones writing it off&qu...
Vibrant kitty public bath
  10/17/17
...
rusted gunner
  10/17/17
health insurance / healthcare and retirement accounts are wh...
nudist curious chapel knife
  10/18/17
This is almost exactly like those "free man on the land...
mauve lay
  10/18/17


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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: excitant gaping

Please explain to a non-taxmo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465811)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:24 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

you mean s-corp PC's.

attorneys cant be LLCs. no limited liability shields.

but yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465822)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:29 PM
Author: rusted gunner

you know of biglaw partners who signed their biglaw partnership agreement using an entity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465859)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:32 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

it depends on the biglaw partnership. some firms seem to allow it, others dont.

some biglaw firm lawyers even have a ", P.C." after their name on their firm bios

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465874)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: rusted gunner

wow, that would be huge for self-employment tax purposes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465896)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

not a tax MFE or a partner, but isnt a partner's draw not treated as w2 income anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465920)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

If he’s a “partner” it should show up on a schedule K

Flow that shit through to an s-Corp, slide and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465929)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: rusted gunner

Cr. it would flow up to his S corp, where he would then pay himself a 'reasonable' salary much lower than the amount distributed to him from the partnership and only pay self-employment tax on that salaried amount.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465935)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: talking yellow multi-billionaire

Which works great until the first audit. The IRS says that lawyers can't do this. Reasonable salary for us = the whole nut. Same for doctors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466207)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:13 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

irs doesnt say this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466220)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:13 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

i thought that rule was for c-corps though. Personal holding corporations.

Might be wrong though, feel free to educate me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466223)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: comical pistol

(lol @ Are Reptile's SPS legal analysis getting shouted down by actual lawyers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466955)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 10:01 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

Yeah he’s done here. Tried to play outside his 25% tax bracket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34467028)



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Date: April 2nd, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: excitant gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#35742815)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

i assume what's exactly the idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465940)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:35 PM
Author: Opaque shrine

Some put it on their pleadings too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465905)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

Morty R. Weisenberg, P.C.

Alvin J. Schwartz, P.C.

DLA PIPER P.C.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465937)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:41 PM
Author: Opaque shrine

Always wondered if this is even arguably legally necessary or just showing off dat equity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465962)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

i dont think the pleading needs to state this shit. the idea is that you're not holding yourself out to people you do biz with that there's a corp shell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466102)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: dashing outnumbered school hominid

I think the P.C. statute says you have to identify yourself as a PC. Just like the firm has to say LLP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466349)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

where do we draw the line?

does every thanks email to the client have to say

thanks, morty PC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466772)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:06 PM
Author: dashing outnumbered school hominid

It works if the flag has gold fringe, so they know you mean the lawyer the sovereign man and not the straw man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466197)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:12 PM
Author: dashing outnumbered school hominid

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466216)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: Opaque shrine

https://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?contentID=220&itemID=7800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466278)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: dashing outnumbered school hominid

That's crazy. I guess the statute says a person can serve as a partner in a LLP and an s-corp is a "person," but I wonder what kind of restrictions the partnership agreement imposes on this. (Like is it harder to claw back from a P.C. than a person if needed? How does capital contribution work, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466335)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:53 PM
Author: histrionic seedy mother mad-dog skullcap

doesn't this basically let u know which ones are the kirkland equity partners and which are just super senior associates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466950)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

PC means they're equity, but absence of a PC is indeterminate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466959)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: Opaque shrine

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466960)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:55 PM
Author: Vibrant kitty public bath

yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466966)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: Swollen masturbator

MISINFORMATION ALERT. Plenty of equity partners don’t have p.c in their titles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34467559)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:00 PM
Author: histrionic seedy mother mad-dog skullcap

(Kirkland 12th year)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34467580)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: excitant gaping

this is what I was talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34473837)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:14 PM
Author: 180 hospital

There are professional LLCs out there. They just don't absolve the practitioner of his malpractice exposure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466225)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:15 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

i suppose it depends on the state, then.

i've seen "PLLC" sometimes. mfh doesnt have them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466229)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: 180 hospital

They are available in New York.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466275)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

well, then. i dunno why mfh biglawyers are all PC's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466347)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:34 PM
Author: 180 hospital

There are plenty of LLPs. Or are you talking about single attorneys and not law firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466356)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:35 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

yes, i'm talking about a single attorey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466364)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:28 PM
Author: Grizzly vivacious locale

i think earl looked into this stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465854)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: mind-boggling stag film

Stew is a write off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465862)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465885)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:35 PM
Author: racy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465906)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:43 PM
Author: Lake kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465970)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:20 PM
Author: adventurous immigrant brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466265)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

If they aren’t retarded, yes. They make enough that the expense looks reasonable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34465898)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:52 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

You can't just randomly expense a car lmao. If you got audited you'd be fucked.

Is this how xo proles think the rich live? Expensing all of their expenses and not paying taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466051)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:01 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

tbf, that's how the rich live. w2 wagecucks lose out on so many deductions.

i have no idea about cars, but every biglaw partner is writing off a portion of his westchester mansion as a "home office"

and they're all writing off every single meal and bar receipt. they're always with SOME buddy who is an attorney or potential client so it's arguably a biz meal. although there's only a 50% deduction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466136)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: Translucent razzle-dazzle church

wow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466270)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:58 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

Home office, sure. And probably a lot of meals, but no, there is not always SOME buddy who is an attorney or potential client at every meal or bar.

Lawyers are risk averse as fuck so I doubt most take deductions they have no defense of if audited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466540)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:06 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

who are biglaw partners socializing with? lawyers and other professionals (bankers, consultants, etc.) all of them is a potential client.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466589)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

lol it doesn't work like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466685)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

I get it now. You’re Agent Jenkins from the IRS. GTFO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466758)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

it exactly works like that.

drinks w your law school buddy who is a partner at another firm = discussing cross-referrals, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466782)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:52 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

I mean if you lie and say that's what all your meetings are about, sure. But if IRS sees you have 50 expensive "business dinners" a year, it's not gonna hold up if they actually look into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466944)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 10:00 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

(Agent Jenkins playing good cop)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34467022)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:36 AM
Author: nudist curious chapel knife

are you kidding? yes it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34468252)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: claret cruise ship prole

my wife’s an inhouse lawyer and we right off everything we do, from vacations to shows, as a business expense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34468277)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:02 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

Holy fuck you’re done here lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466161)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:04 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466182)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

(guy that thinks the rich "write off" their vacation homes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466544)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

I know quite a bit more about what “rich people” do on their taxes than you do, wagecuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466569)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

lol im definitely not a wage cuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466687)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:07 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

they write off their vacations tho as "conferences"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466590)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:08 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:56 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

yeah they won't hold up if audited, unless you can show the conference was actually the primary purpose of the trip. Going to Hawaii for 7 days for a small 6 hour conference that's available 50 miles from home as well isn't deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466981)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:59 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

(Agent Jenkins laying a honeypot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34467020)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:18 PM
Author: misunderstood therapy doctorate

I don't believe there is an advantage to using an S-corp over a C-corp.

A C-corp allows you as a company with one employee to create a health benefit plan which pays for 100% of the out of pocket expenses of the employee (me) and his spouse (my wife). So basically all co pays, glasses, sunglasses, and pharmacy stuff is purchased by the corporation.

you pay your car lease with your corporation, together with insurance and gas and maybe allocate 10% of the cost to personal use. After all my BMW is the company car. My wife's prius is the personal car. Gas for both cars goes on the corporate credit card.

I don't deduct my home office since I don't want to fuck around with my mortgage interest deduction.

The corporation does pay for home internet, cell phone plan, all cell phones, all tablets, all computer equipment, office furniture, a safe for all my guns plus some work papers, etc.

Corporation pays for 50% of all business meals which are basically all meals over $80.

Corporation pays for some travel - not vacations with wife to hawaii, but basically whenever I go anywhere there is a potential client to speak to and take to lunch.

I figure its good for $30K-35K in business expenses this year - which is low but I don't spend that much. My corporation pays me $160K in salary which covers the mortgage and all other living expenses. At the end of the year I will need to gross out the pay after taxes for the year and cut myself a check for the rest. On december 31 my c-corp closes its books with $0 profit and only the initial investment of $5,000 I made in the account.

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

YNYYYY I like this structure

The fact that you end in a wash down to the initial investment does increase your audit risk though. They want to pwn you at the corporate level too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466691)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: misunderstood therapy doctorate

it's a professional corporation called "Earl Manigoat, P.C." - I think the IRS knows what kind of corp it is an they always wash out.

No professional corporation pays corporate tax. Except for the medical expenses I think all of those business expenses I could take without the corporation.

However, $35,000 in business expenses would probably put me in the top 10% of the individual filers, putting me at moderate audit risk. $35,000 in business expenses is probably the bottom 1% of C-corp expenses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466715)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

Audit risk doesn’t really matter anyway as long as you have documentation. Everyone has an automatic audit risk anyway.

I have both entities right now. An s-corporation that owns interest in several different partnerships so I pay a salary and flow the rest of the money through, and a c-corporation that owns my income properties. I like the idea of a health benefit plan because right now the c-corp is just sitting there with cash in the bank. Any other advice as a c-Corp haver?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466751)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:47 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

Read rules for deducting "company car" expenses. He would be fucked on his car if he got audited. Probably same for all of his home electronic expenses as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466894)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

STFU Agent Jenkins

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Pink impertinent spot

I mean if you don't get audited you have nothing to worry about. But don't act like its all done within the rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466929)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:51 PM
Author: Crystalline Gaming Laptop Nursing Home

(Agent Jenkins running false flag flame)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466936)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:35 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

your audit risk is much less as a corp than on a schedule C, apparently. i guess the IRS is more skeptical of schedule C filers and thinks corps are inherently more reliable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466807)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:33 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

ljl this is goyishe

>>Corporation pays for some travel - not vacations with wife to hawaii, but basically whenever I go anywhere there is a potential client to speak to and take to lunch.

there are confs in hawaii all the fucking time. you can easily figure out how to write off your HI trips.

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:40 PM
Author: rusted gunner

How does your medicare tax work-- only on the 160k?

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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: misunderstood therapy doctorate

i pay myself the balance of my comp as a end of year bonus, so medicare is paid on all of that sadly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34468268)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: misanthropic address dingle berry

btw, you have to allocate your home internet, cell phone, etc. you should at least allocate it at 90%

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: blue zombie-like nowag

Yeah. All the time.

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: greedy aromatic site organic girlfriend

They just WRITE IT OFF, JERRY!

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Date: October 17th, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: Vibrant kitty public bath

"...but they do, and they're the ones writing it off"

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34466994)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 10:07 PM
Author: rusted gunner



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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: nudist curious chapel knife

health insurance / healthcare and retirement accounts are where you really cash in with self-employment. the car, meals, the incidental expenses like internet and computers, the occasional family vacation you write off because you attended a conference for half a day, they're ok, but the real significant value is in the first two categories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34468276)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: mauve lay

This is almost exactly like those "free man on the land" types who rant about their corporate personhood and actual personhood, except we make fun of those guys. They must read threads like this and wonder what the fucking difference is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767092&forum_id=2#34469584)