Cliffs for why the alt right is obsessed with the so called "Holodomor"?
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Date: October 17th, 2017 8:39 PM Author: Slap-happy Business Firm
Were ethnic Kazakhs not destroyed by the same famine? Did people not also die all across the Soviet Union?
Why interpret this as a way to genocide Ukrainians
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767160&forum_id=2#34466401) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:00 PM Author: Slap-happy Business Firm
the book looks good but do you remember what lines of evidence were used to prove intentionality?
also
Alexander Nove, while generally praising the book, noted: "That the majority of those who died in the famine were Ukrainian peasants is not in dispute. But did they die because they were peasants, or because they were Ukrainians? As Conquest himself points out, the largest number of victims proportionately were in fact Kazakhs, and no one has attributed this to Stalin's anti-Kazakh views".[3]:508
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767160&forum_id=2#34467581)
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Date: October 17th, 2017 10:46 PM Author: haunting pit sandwich
other than a well documented set of policies designed to eliminate the ukrainian culture and a large part of its people?
i guess nothing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767160&forum_id=2#34467431)
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: magical sienna hominid
can you see why with the holocaust for example its easy to point to a factory constructed for the purpose of killing jews as your evidence.
Or with Rwanda, the machetes that were distributed and anti tutsi propaganda. Also this occurred in the 90s and was covered in the news during our lifetimes.
You can see how a famine and starvation of people through economic policy is a bit different. The proof is going to be less tangible or shocking.
Im not saying this to be rude. Its really jusy an observation. You are displaying a certain level of autism IMO.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767160&forum_id=2#34467655) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: Slap-happy Business Firm
I don't see what this has to do with autism tbh. The Nazis had maps and marked them "Judenfrei." The Hutus literally wanted to kill all Tutsis.
On the other hand, you had a guy like Stalin who really did believe that dekulakization was part of a class war that would some day deliver prosperity. It's not like these famine creating policies were only present in Ukraine.
The only thing that seems autistic is you assuming that Stalin knew dekulakization was going to fail all along
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767160&forum_id=2#34467684) |
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