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Biggest problem with being solo: hard to sell practice

Going to probably turn a profit (before taxes) of around $22...
Topaz 180 stead jew
  10/22/17
You can't sell any sole proprietor business for shit
Canary Center
  10/22/17
so lawyers have no inherent value? odd case!
Up-to-no-good Clear Property
  10/22/17
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crusty spectacular haunted graveyard boistinker
  10/22/17
Scum of the earth, really. I hate being a lawyer in part bec...
Topaz 180 stead jew
  10/22/17
Actually, OP's problem is that by far the most valuable asse...
Geriatric fragrant national
  10/22/17
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milky exciting principal's office
  10/22/17
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Silver Mental Disorder Main People
  10/22/17
cr. ljl at dbg's "business analysis."
marvelous out-of-control heaven
  10/23/17
The thing that makes it relatively easy to start and grow a ...
Territorial hospital mother
  10/22/17
My accountant aunt did not have this problem. When she was s...
Judgmental fantasy-prone boiling water university
  10/22/17
No sole prop which requires constant elbow grease is gonna g...
chrome step-uncle's house
  10/22/17
I'm not disagreeing. You're absolutely right. I'm just sayin...
Topaz 180 stead jew
  10/22/17
Just include yourself in the deal as chattel
Laughsome gas station becky
  10/22/17
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Topaz 180 stead jew
  10/22/17
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Silver Mental Disorder Main People
  10/22/17
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wonderful disgusting reading party telephone
  10/23/17
You want to extract economic benefit from this and get out o...
Geriatric fragrant national
  10/22/17
180, been playing around with this or pitching midlaw firms ...
Topaz 180 stead jew
  10/22/17
cr, your berst move is to bring in fungible billing units to...
Silver Mental Disorder Main People
  10/22/17
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Concupiscible brass chad international law enforcement agency
  10/23/17
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wonderful disgusting reading party telephone
  10/23/17
YOU are the business
Cyan office
  10/22/17
this is true of every small business - a ton of their value ...
Concupiscible brass chad international law enforcement agency
  10/23/17


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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: Topaz 180 stead jew

Going to probably turn a profit (before taxes) of around $225k this year. If this was some other small business making $225k in profit, I could probably sell it for 2-3x earnings, escape law, and move on to something else. But because it's a law firm, it's almost impossible to sell for any decent amount.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500920)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: Canary Center

You can't sell any sole proprietor business for shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500933)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good Clear Property

so lawyers have no inherent value? odd case!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500938)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: crusty spectacular haunted graveyard boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500940)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: Topaz 180 stead jew

Scum of the earth, really. I hate being a lawyer in part because I hate every lawyer I meet and have to deal with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500948)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:48 PM
Author: Geriatric fragrant national

Actually, OP's problem is that by far the most valuable asset of the business (a lawyer) isn't being sold with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502312)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: milky exciting principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502347)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Silver Mental Disorder Main People



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502394)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: marvelous out-of-control heaven

cr. ljl at dbg's "business analysis."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509004)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: Territorial hospital mother

The thing that makes it relatively easy to start and grow a solo practice is the same thing that makes it hard to sell: lack of a barrier to entry. Obviously you need a law degree, but it's not like starting a factory and needing a bunch of machinery or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500943)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: Judgmental fantasy-prone boiling water university

My accountant aunt did not have this problem. When she was set to retire her biggest problem was getting the buyer to go from 1.8 million to her 2 million figure. Ended up selling it for 1.95. I did the closing and walked away with -- $2500. LJL at my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500979)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 12:18 PM
Author: chrome step-uncle's house

No sole prop which requires constant elbow grease is gonna go for 3x bro. For example i can tell you that solo accounting firm go for 0.8x to 1.0x RETAINED billings. Your just being unrealistic unless yoyr earnings number nets out the effective labour cost of the sole prop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34501658)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:42 PM
Author: Topaz 180 stead jew

I'm not disagreeing. You're absolutely right. I'm just saying I should have built a different business rather than a law firm because there's no exit strategy here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502251)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:44 PM
Author: Laughsome gas station becky

Just include yourself in the deal as chattel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502275)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Topaz 180 stead jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502344)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:02 PM
Author: Silver Mental Disorder Main People



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502398)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: wonderful disgusting reading party telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509345)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: Geriatric fragrant national

You want to extract economic benefit from this and get out of law, you'll be much better off bringing in a partner and/or associate(s) to do the work for you. There are plenty of good attorneys who don't have much of a book. You could have a partner who gets paid from his collections and buys the equity from you year by year out of collections. You can probably eventually make MORE than 2x-3x as long as you're willing to maintain a token participation for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502374)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Topaz 180 stead jew

180, been playing around with this or pitching midlaw firms on merging and making me a partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502395)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Silver Mental Disorder Main People

cr, your berst move is to bring in fungible billing units to grind under you and you collect thier profits. you dont make money by billing hourly, you make money by making other people bill hourly and collecting thier money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502421)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: Concupiscible brass chad international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34508395)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: wonderful disgusting reading party telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509351)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:02 PM
Author: Cyan office

YOU are the business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502402)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Concupiscible brass chad international law enforcement agency

this is true of every small business - a ton of their value is in the knowledge and effort of the owners. I've seen this with two family friends recently. One pair of brothers tried to sell a well-established construction subcontractor business (probably 30 employees?). The buyers said OK, but both of you have to sign 5 year contracts as salaried managers. Another family had a pizzeria; no one would pay them more than the value of the ovens. Small business owners are the business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34508411)