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Biggest problem with being solo: hard to sell practice

Going to probably turn a profit (before taxes) of around $22...
thirsty ruddy school
  10/22/17
You can't sell any sole proprietor business for shit
Wonderful Sweet Tailpipe Friendly Grandma
  10/22/17
so lawyers have no inherent value? odd case!
red magical feces
  10/22/17
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Beady-eyed Bbw Institution
  10/22/17
Scum of the earth, really. I hate being a lawyer in part bec...
thirsty ruddy school
  10/22/17
Actually, OP's problem is that by far the most valuable asse...
shivering station double fault
  10/22/17
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milky brunch
  10/22/17
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jet pistol
  10/22/17
cr. ljl at dbg's "business analysis."
Appetizing duck-like home
  10/23/17
The thing that makes it relatively easy to start and grow a ...
Insanely creepy federal dilemma striped hyena
  10/22/17
My accountant aunt did not have this problem. When she was s...
Razzle-dazzle Filthy Nursing Home
  10/22/17
No sole prop which requires constant elbow grease is gonna g...
bull headed sadistic locale incel
  10/22/17
I'm not disagreeing. You're absolutely right. I'm just sayin...
thirsty ruddy school
  10/22/17
Just include yourself in the deal as chattel
Lake kitchen
  10/22/17
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thirsty ruddy school
  10/22/17
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jet pistol
  10/22/17
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Pale Stag Film
  10/23/17
You want to extract economic benefit from this and get out o...
shivering station double fault
  10/22/17
180, been playing around with this or pitching midlaw firms ...
thirsty ruddy school
  10/22/17
cr, your berst move is to bring in fungible billing units to...
jet pistol
  10/22/17
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Buff Flatulent Dog Poop
  10/23/17
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Pale Stag Film
  10/23/17
YOU are the business
Angry theater stage
  10/22/17
this is true of every small business - a ton of their value ...
Buff Flatulent Dog Poop
  10/23/17


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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: thirsty ruddy school

Going to probably turn a profit (before taxes) of around $225k this year. If this was some other small business making $225k in profit, I could probably sell it for 2-3x earnings, escape law, and move on to something else. But because it's a law firm, it's almost impossible to sell for any decent amount.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500920)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: Wonderful Sweet Tailpipe Friendly Grandma

You can't sell any sole proprietor business for shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500933)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: red magical feces

so lawyers have no inherent value? odd case!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500938)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Bbw Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500940)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: thirsty ruddy school

Scum of the earth, really. I hate being a lawyer in part because I hate every lawyer I meet and have to deal with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500948)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:48 PM
Author: shivering station double fault

Actually, OP's problem is that by far the most valuable asset of the business (a lawyer) isn't being sold with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502312)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: milky brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502347)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: jet pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502394)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: Appetizing duck-like home

cr. ljl at dbg's "business analysis."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509004)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: Insanely creepy federal dilemma striped hyena

The thing that makes it relatively easy to start and grow a solo practice is the same thing that makes it hard to sell: lack of a barrier to entry. Obviously you need a law degree, but it's not like starting a factory and needing a bunch of machinery or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500943)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Filthy Nursing Home

My accountant aunt did not have this problem. When she was set to retire her biggest problem was getting the buyer to go from 1.8 million to her 2 million figure. Ended up selling it for 1.95. I did the closing and walked away with -- $2500. LJL at my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34500979)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 12:18 PM
Author: bull headed sadistic locale incel

No sole prop which requires constant elbow grease is gonna go for 3x bro. For example i can tell you that solo accounting firm go for 0.8x to 1.0x RETAINED billings. Your just being unrealistic unless yoyr earnings number nets out the effective labour cost of the sole prop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34501658)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:42 PM
Author: thirsty ruddy school

I'm not disagreeing. You're absolutely right. I'm just saying I should have built a different business rather than a law firm because there's no exit strategy here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502251)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:44 PM
Author: Lake kitchen

Just include yourself in the deal as chattel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502275)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: thirsty ruddy school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502344)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:02 PM
Author: jet pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502398)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Pale Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509345)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: shivering station double fault

You want to extract economic benefit from this and get out of law, you'll be much better off bringing in a partner and/or associate(s) to do the work for you. There are plenty of good attorneys who don't have much of a book. You could have a partner who gets paid from his collections and buys the equity from you year by year out of collections. You can probably eventually make MORE than 2x-3x as long as you're willing to maintain a token participation for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502374)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: thirsty ruddy school

180, been playing around with this or pitching midlaw firms on merging and making me a partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502395)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: jet pistol

cr, your berst move is to bring in fungible billing units to grind under you and you collect thier profits. you dont make money by billing hourly, you make money by making other people bill hourly and collecting thier money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502421)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: Buff Flatulent Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34508395)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Pale Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34509351)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:02 PM
Author: Angry theater stage

YOU are the business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34502402)



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Date: October 23rd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Buff Flatulent Dog Poop

this is true of every small business - a ton of their value is in the knowledge and effort of the owners. I've seen this with two family friends recently. One pair of brothers tried to sell a well-established construction subcontractor business (probably 30 employees?). The buyers said OK, but both of you have to sign 5 year contracts as salaried managers. Another family had a pizzeria; no one would pay them more than the value of the ovens. Small business owners are the business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771344&forum_id=2#34508411)