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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:02 AM Author: ocher national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34531898) |
Date: October 26th, 2017 8:05 AM Author: Twinkling School Cafeteria Who ya got for this week's PSU/OSU matchup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34531914) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:15 AM Author: ocher national Ohio State by 8 points. Too bad it's not played at night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34531957) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:21 AM Author: Twinkling School Cafeteria Why do you think that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34531987) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:58 AM Author: ocher national They (OSU) have been playing the best football in the country by a wide margin, including better than Alabama, moving the ball incredibly efficiently and stopping good-ish teams cold. They are very healthy and playing at home. Penn State coming off a very emotional win. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532151) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:02 AM Author: Diverse chapel Stop with this best football in the country shit on Ohio State. They’ve beaten up on 5straight absolute garbage opponents. The only one close to having a pulse is Maryland and they were on a 4h string QB.
This is the OSU narrative every year. Ignore our shitty loss, we’re playig great against complete garbage. |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:35 AM Author: ocher national Yeah and they have put in 90th percentile opponent adjusted games against weak opponents. That and a home game will foretell a win. Oh and they are coming off a bye Ohio State 35, Penn State 25 |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:51 AM Author: Heady pea-brained university "But the 90th percenthile opponent adjusthed games...." he said, as Clemson fingered his asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532521) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:27 AM Author: ocher national https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2016/12/14/13954184/fiesta-bowl-ohio-state-clemson-game-2016-preview-prediction-stats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532765) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Diverse chapel They could beat Penn State. It would be the entire Big Ten's second win against a ranked team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532845) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:49 AM Author: Heady pea-brained university Unequivocally devastating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532504) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:05 AM Author: gaped stage trump supporter LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532189) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:08 AM Author: clear fragrant depressive fwiw, I think tOSU is going to win this game too
I think if Barrett's in sync, they have a real chance at the NC, it seems like he's gotten in sync over the last couple of weeks |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:37 AM Author: ocher national Urban is a murderer after 1 loss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532418) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Diverse chapel I'm not sure, I think OSU could and probably will win this game. But Jesus, Ohio State has not played anyone at all since their loss, their climb back up the polls makes no sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532823) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Obsidian theater immigrant Because everyone else keeps losing. Polls don’t mean shit at this point anyway. I’d rather we didn’t have them, but then ((they)) wouldn’t make as much money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532833) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:37 AM Author: Diverse chapel The CFB playoff poll has actually done a pretty good job. I like the fact that they don't come out until later in the season and they've had the right mix of not tracking the other polls but not looking like they're trying to reject the other polls. They've also been fairly consistent. It's pretty impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532839) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:16 AM Author: Obsidian theater immigrant agreed. Pre playoff committee polls are garbage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533099) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:01 AM Author: clear fragrant depressive I don't really disagree,
but...
if we treat Florida State like a 2-4 team, Alabama hasn't really played anyone either
but Alabama (probably correctly) is the near unanimous #1 because of the obvious talent they put out on the field, moreso than because of a resume of quality wins they've collected
Ohio State's ranking is similar, they don't really have a resume of quality wins, but they have obvious talent they put out on the field
you're entitled to your opinion as to whether that's a fair basis for ranking teams (personally, I'm sort of over sweating the rankings in October, come December, I'll agree that that's a shitty basis for ranking teams) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Diverse chapel If the committee is being consistent with how they have always ranked teams. An Alabama team that loses to Georgia in the SECCG at the end of the year as their only loss should find themselves on the outside looking in this year. The SEC is not good. Alabama would at that time have their best win be against who? A 4 loss Auburn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533254) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:04 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive That's a good question
I'm not sure I'm impressed with the ability of the committee to be consistent as you seem to be
We have, what a three year history to work off of?
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Year 1, they put in Ohio State over TCU and Baylor, seemingly on the basis of Ohio State blowing out Wisconsin in the Big 10 title game, and the Big XII not having a title game
Year 2, conceivably Ohio State or maybe Stanford would have given the playoff a better team than Michigan State, but Michigan State beat Ohio State head to head, and Stanford had 2 losses, so it was pretty straight forward for the committee to go with the 4 teams it went with
year 3, they could have gone with Penn State over Ohio State, who they beat head to head, and Penn State won their conference (though they needed tie breakers to get to the conference championship game), Penn State had two losses
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idk, I'm not sure we have a clear picture as to what the committee will base their decisions on, all in all, in three years they've been spared any truly controversial scenarios
I suspect a good rule of thumb, is that losses is the first order differentiator, then generally who would be the betting favorite is the second order differentiator (ahead of merit of the resume)
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such that, I suspect, if Alabama losses a close game in the SEC championship game
they'll make it, even though, maybe they shouldn't
I suspect that if Ohio State wins out, they'll make it over ND, even if based on resume, maybe they shouldn't
I suspect the same is true of Clemson
I'm not sure if the same is true of Oklahoma
it will be interesting to see what the committee will do if its between a 1 loss Ohio State and a 1 loss Oklahoma |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:33 PM Author: Diverse chapel They've been consistent in that it seems like they've gone with:
1- Record 2- Who did you beat that you can point to 3- Conference championships/game control |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:51 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive Do you think Alabama is out if they lose in the SEC CG? Especially if they lose close?
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idk, my first assumption is that the committee cares first and foremost about their own legitimacy, such that they're not going to risk their legitimacy to remain consistent
maybe an Alabama loss in the SEC CG would be a good test of that
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as a function of that assumption, style points matter, and public perceptions matter, (history matters too, but at this point, that's functionally set) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:53 PM Author: Diverse chapel Yeah, that's going to be the really tough one, because the other thing they're battling is the same reason why it would be tough to put Georgia in with a loss in the SECCG. You're going to have a rematch of the previous game in the first round of the playoffs? Between two regional schools? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533822) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:01 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive I guess they do try to seed it #1 vs #4, and #2 vs #3, huh?
the winner of that game will almost certainly be #1, so to avoid the rematch, they need to make the argument as to why the loser is #3
yeah, that's tough |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Diverse chapel They either have to make the argument or openly admit they're avoiding a rematch. Let's say TCU wins out, Penn State wins out, Notre Dame wins out, Georgia/Alabama win by 3 TDs in the SECCG.
You going to put the SECCG loser in a spot where they absolutely have to be the 4 seed and set up a rematch?
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive I don't think the SEC CG loser is making it if they lose by 3 TDs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34534073) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 5:39 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive Thoughts on what we should expect from the committee going forward based on adding this year as an input? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34830231) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: Diverse chapel I don't think this changes a whole lot. I'm not sure I understand the hand wringing over taking Bama over OSU. OSU has 1 additional loss and got crushed by a middle of the pack team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34836320) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive I didn't really understand it either, to me it entirely reasonable followed the precedent set by taking Ohio State over Penn State last year.
Almost seems like a lot of 'we got air time, so we're going to fill it by arguing' |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:00 AM Author: Obsidian theater immigrant I don’t like the night games. I like to blowout pedos before dinner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532157) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:09 AM Author: glittery garrison How crazy am I to think that Florida has a decent chance at upsetting Georgia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532201) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:15 AM Author: Cream locale yarmulke 7/10. It could happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532223) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:16 AM Author: Scarlet Cumskin Library What's the line? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532225) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:36 AM Author: ocher national The line is 14.5. Florida has won this game outright the last two times it wS a 2 score underdog. If you decide the Florida defense can stop Michael and Chubb, this is a no brainer line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532416) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Diverse chapel Completely insane, 3-4 TD game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532826) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:15 AM Author: clear fragrant depressive where do you think Jacob Eason is at next year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533093) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:43 AM Author: Rebellious Passionate Sanctuary wtf happened to FSU football? is Jimbo Fisher a shitty coach who hid behind a generational QB a la Gene Chizik, or is this just a matter of shitty assistants needing to get canned? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532454) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:50 AM Author: ocher national This team was weak psychologically and rumor is that it had the same credit card scandal that hit Florida. But FSU does a better job of keeping a handle on things. They lost their starting QB week 1 who was their best offensive player. They have no depth at QB and are starting a really unprepared freshmen now. He can't move the ball and the defensive are collapsing in on RB Cam Akers. Defense is probably doing NFL draft workouts already. They don't seem interested. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532515) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:39 AM Author: bateful crimson theatre preventive strike Does Wofford win out and take the SOCON, or do they collapse and Samford or Furman sneak up and take it? Also SOCON related, is Western Carolina for real? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532854) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:41 AM Author: laughsome kitchen milk Who gets the last playoff spot? One loss UGA, one loss Notre Dame or an undefeated TCU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532861) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: Diverse chapel Undefeated TCU is first. Georgia/ND depends a lot on how both teams get there. Georgia has the head to head, but if they get stomped in the SECCG in the last game of the season, the committee isn't going to trot them back out there against Alabama in the playoff game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34532926) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:10 AM Author: indigo jet-lagged plaza wrinkle (guy unfamiliar with the 2011 football season) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533063) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Diverse chapel There are so many reasons why 2011 isn't relevant that I don't even know what to tell you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533262) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:28 PM Author: ocher national There will be at least 3 losses among those 3 teams by end of CGs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533623) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:37 PM Author: Sickened Seedy Digit Ratio who ya got in the unh vs xo jmu game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533692) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:44 PM Author: ocher national Dude. James Madison has a higher Sagarin ranking than the following teams:
Boston a College Pitt Ole Miss Nebraska Tennessee Vanderbilt Virginia Kentucky |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: clear fragrant depressive tbf, Pitt's trash this year (as are some of those other teams)
they've really regressed from last year |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:41 PM Author: Transparent Abnormal Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533722) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:47 PM Author: Underhanded rehab clown Michigan is not good. But is Michigan just not good, or are they actually bad
Is Michigan State good? Or just not bad |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:55 PM Author: Diverse chapel I don't think MSU is good. As an ND fan, I'd love for them to be good. But I just don't think they are.
Michigan's offense is atrocious. It's really a major strike against Harbaugh that he's been incapable of even making that a competent offense. His excuses at this point are poor. He's had 3 years to develop a QB.
The argument that they lost so many guys in the draft doesn't really hold water. 9/11 were defensive players. None were QBs or OL, which is where they've really had trouble. |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: Beady-eyed sapphire sound barrier What are the top-5 coaching jobs in CFB? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533832) |
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Date: October 27th, 2017 7:15 PM Author: ocher national Bama OSU Notre Dame USC Michigan |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:58 PM Author: Diverse chapel Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame LG, is the best player in college football right now. True or False? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34533858) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: opaque medicated community account He is probably my pick for the player who projects best at his current position in the NFL, but are we adjusting for the value of guards vs. other positions (e.g. tackle -- in which case the guy to his left, among others, is a competitor)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34534058) |
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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: Diverse chapel I think Nelson is so good he transcends position adjustment. That guy is wildly fun to watch at a position that you usually don't even notice. Watch some of his crazy blitz pick up highlights, it's really entertaining. The one Saturday night where there's a safety coming off the right side and he pulls from LG, gets there in time for the safety to make a business decision and pull up knowing he's going to get mauled, is one of my favorite OL highlights I've seen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34534083) |
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Date: October 27th, 2017 7:15 PM Author: ocher national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34544833) |
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Date: October 29th, 2017 7:26 AM Author: ocher national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3775087&forum_id=6#34552627) |