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Reminder: This tax plan completely fucks shitlibs in California and NY

I pray it passes. I'm sure they'll end up increasing the ca...
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  11/03/17
even if it ends up fucking me too, it will be worth it
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what about the Trumpmos in NY and CA? don't you feel for the...
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  11/03/17
All 9 of them can move.
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  11/03/17
lol
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odd case: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/calif...
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There aren't many. The ones who are are probably rich enoug...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
wrong and wrong but anyway i support this bill because it...
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  11/03/17
No I don’t.
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  11/03/17
:(
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We all need to move. These places are unbearable for trumpmo...
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  11/05/17
To be fair It fucks as many good conservative bros from C...
Hyperactive french chef
  11/03/17
It helps those people moron. It only starts hurting at ab...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
depends on a lot of factors. if you have 200K house hold inc...
Hyperactive french chef
  11/03/17
Yeah but your rates go way down. Also, $200k household in...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
just do living in a van, given CA real estate prices.
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  11/03/17
if this passes as is those prices will move
khaki prole rigor
  11/03/17
that will really please all those GOP blue state voters whos...
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  11/03/17
this or open borders
khaki prole rigor
  11/03/17
i think blue state GOP care a lot more about this shit than ...
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  11/03/17
and when those voters, who wrongly consider themselves "...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE PAYING HIGHER TAXES
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
i don't think anyone can say with confidence how this will a...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
The middle class people you are talking about won't be hurt....
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
these people are a lot of my family and friends. feel prett...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
You literally think the majority of people are making 200k+
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  11/03/17
“The rich” pay so goddamn much of the income tax it would re...
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i hope you're right, but please show your work for a family ...
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  11/03/17
yep. and if you think the average suburban voter is going to...
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  11/03/17
How dumb are you? This is a tax increase on the top 2% in...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
the average suburban voter in NY/CA are UMC
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  11/03/17
you are very low IQ. You said average voter originally. ...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
hey dumbass, UMC suburban voters are the reason there are GO...
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  11/03/17
Eh they have become pretty fucking shitlib lately. It's t...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
*leans into microphone*
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  11/03/17
*grabs your head and gives you a noogie*
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
you're responding to the wrong guy
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  11/03/17
i'm not a strong opponent of addressing this deduction. but...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
you are wrong about any pocket book voters switching to dems...
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  11/03/17
guess we'll see, brother. i don't think the average UMC sub...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
you must have been sleeping through 2016 election cycle. the...
Hyperactive french chef
  11/03/17
No you don’t get it, they’re going to vote dem for a tax cut
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  11/03/17
and war is peace
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Are libs honestly going to vote against any form of a middle...
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as UMC i should be paying higher taxes. i just think this i...
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Any income tax cut to the lower and middle tiers necessarily...
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totally agree. putting money and benefits in the hands of t...
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I thought Libs love higher taxes
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Yeah, I support higher taxes. My point is this seems like d...
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Fuckingn over people that don't vote for them anyway? Uh ...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
whatever you say champ
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And we all know liberals experts on what is and isn’t good s...
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  11/03/17
game recognize game. there are plenty of GOP pols i loathe ...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
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I’m saying Libs don’t have any game so wouldn’t be able to r...
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If you're looking for someone to argue the Dems are good at ...
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I’m just confused why you’re so arrogant re: your analysis. ...
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breaking: dude on xo is arrogant about his opinions
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
How exactly?
cracking twinkling uncleanness
  11/03/17
SALT deductions gone over $10,000
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
only property taxes to $10k. no state income taxes.
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That was the plan but haven't seen anything definitive. S...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
pretty sure it's just prop taxes - i think the articles tha...
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Tax plan adds 1.5 trillion dollars in debt over ten years. G...
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  11/03/17
link to adding to debt?
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/353097-senate-unveils-2018...
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funny how libs thought dynamic scoring was totally appropria...
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Yeah libs are honestly concerned about the commonweal. Give ...
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deficit hawking is so stupid. we aren't on the gold standar...
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deficits matter, and any attempt to dismiss them is garbage ...
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there is a hypothetical "deficit" that matters but...
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It matters because in order to pass senate with 51 votes, th...
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i get the politics of it. i'm making a different point.
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legit made me think of things in a new light.
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How are the super wealthy affected by this plan?
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It looks like a modest screwing of blue state umc's for a mo...
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...
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How did they calculate that the bottom 35% would receive no ...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
If you pay no income taxes (as opposed to payroll taxes) you...
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  11/03/17
Oh so it's people that already don't pay income tax not rece...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
Not all of us apparently...
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  11/03/17
Likely false. Increased standard deduction with no change to...
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elimination of personal exemptions.
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But they are eliminating personal exemptions so that cancels...
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This false premise is the libs’ excuse not to support the pr...
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cr couldn't imagine the GOP voting against the interests of ...
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reminder: the right wing of the GOP is driving the bus, but ...
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  11/03/17
You don’t think Ryan has looked at this?
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  11/03/17
sure, but he is teetering on the bring of losing leadership ...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
And you don’t think they’re going to like estate tax elimina...
provocative school cuckoldry
  11/03/17
the GOP loses power if it loses seats in blue states, and th...
talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal
  11/03/17
I don’t think higher taxes on top 10% earners is going to c...
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  11/03/17
ok
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lol
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they will tweak and adjust it to get it to pass. that would ...
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  11/03/17
you must Be flame. Everything you say is dishonest. Bottom 3...
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  11/03/17
Libs are always like this. They call a reduction in welfa...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
Likely worse than that. Increased standard deduction means l...
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and right on cue to talk out of your ass yep, doubling th...
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WA bros come out pretty good
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Yeah, and Texas too. I'd be surprised if SALT stays property...
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  11/03/17
why?
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  11/03/17
Narrowly targets trump area of New York (Long Island, upstat...
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  11/03/17
coming down hard on property tax and mortgage interest would...
khaki prole rigor
  11/03/17
Home builders and realtors still hate the law. This is tryin...
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  11/03/17
It won't work without state taxes being deductible.
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  11/03/17
It is extremely dumb. Is there any justification besides he...
cerise set clown
  11/03/17
It seems fine
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I have gotten zero credit for property taxes since I have be...
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Wrong. Gives high tax blue states an incentive to lower stat...
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yeah im sure jerry brown will get right on that
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cr, ljl at the California legislature ever approving that
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theyre the most insane people in the country
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lol no
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  11/05/17
This is the best part of a pretty mediocre bill.
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  11/05/17


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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: cerise set clown

I pray it passes. I'm sure they'll end up increasing the cap on SALT but hopefully no more than $25,000 or so.

They want dem programs for their pet constituencies? Great, they can pay for it. Don't whine assholes, the rich are morally SUPPOSED to pay for people to sit on their ass at home and have kids, remember? Maybe California shouldn't have such high taxes.

Thank you for your sacrifice Earl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595163)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: deep vermilion field

even if it ends up fucking me too, it will be worth it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599382)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595166)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac fighting area electric furnace

Excellent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595173)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: Naked big-titted goyim stage

what about the Trumpmos in NY and CA? don't you feel for them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595174)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:51 AM
Author: coiffed glittery state

All 9 of them can move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595179)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: appetizing principal's office

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597086)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: azure multi-billionaire

odd case:

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california

ny even more extreme: Trump probably would've won except for MFH

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599393)



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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:44 AM
Author: Electric Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607042)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:51 AM
Author: cerise set clown

There aren't many. The ones who are are probably rich enough to beat the system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595183)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

wrong and wrong

but anyway i support this bill because its a step in the right direction for our country and the economy. i am one of those GOP bros in CA who will get fucked a little (~5K) but its OK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595203)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

No I don’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595196)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: fear-inspiring mad cow disease

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598158)



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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: autistic love of her life ticket booth

We all need to move. These places are unbearable for trumpmos anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607030)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

To be fair

It fucks as many good conservative bros from CA/NY as libs. CA is deep blue but once you dig into voting based on income level you will find that close to 50% of middle class (>150K HHI) is probably republican

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595191)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: cerise set clown

It helps those people moron.

It only starts hurting at about $300k in HH income or so. Probably not noticeable till $450-$500k.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595195)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:55 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

depends on a lot of factors. if you have 200K house hold income in CA with a home you are definitely going to lose some money. may not be a lot but you will lose some because of 10K property tax cap, SALT and removal of personal exemptions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595224)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: cerise set clown

Yeah but your rates go way down.

Also, $200k household income shouldn't have a house worth more than $700k or so. Effects would be negligible.

And SALT won't' really hurt because $10,000 is still allowed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595242)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

just do living in a van, given CA real estate prices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595252)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: khaki prole rigor

if this passes as is those prices will move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595325)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

that will really please all those GOP blue state voters whose wives are selling real estate on the side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595360)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:07 AM
Author: khaki prole rigor

this or open borders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595367)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

i think blue state GOP care a lot more about this shit than the racial politics that drives the more extreme elements of the right. they are not 4chan chuds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595401)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

and when those voters, who wrongly consider themselves "middle class," see they are paying higher taxes while "the rich" are getting massive tax cuts, they will be pissed. i don't get how the GOP doesn't get the optics of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595243)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: cerise set clown

BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE PAYING HIGHER TAXES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595262)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

i don't think anyone can say with confidence how this will all play out given that the bill is going to change a TON before (and if) it becomes law. but on balance UMC are getting fucked and that's bad for GOP, especially given that the wealthy are going to make out like bandits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595295)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: cerise set clown

The middle class people you are talking about won't be hurt.

The 2% will.

Libs are completely out of touch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595425)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

these people are a lot of my family and friends. feel pretty comfortable with my analysis. time will tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595432)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:52 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

You literally think the majority of people are making 200k+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595745)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: coiffed glittery state

“The rich” pay so goddamn much of the income tax it would really hard to cut taxes only on the MC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595427)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle rehab

i hope you're right, but please show your work for a family making $350k in a $1.5m house with a $1.2m mortgage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595292)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

yep. and if you think the average suburban voter is going to blame state politics for getting fucked on this, you're insane. this will just be another reason for dem voters to hate the GOP, and a plausible reason for pocketbook voters to support dem candidates in red pockets of blue states. the average voter isn't going to process this as anything other than an increase in their taxes. and, to be fair, that is what it is.

i have a hard time seeing this getting out of the senate as drafted. and i think you'll see a lot of defections from GOP reps in blue states, because they will see the implications of this on their reelection bids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595232)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: cerise set clown

How dumb are you?

This is a tax increase on the top 2% in shitlib states.

The average voter is helped by this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595251)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: Naked big-titted goyim stage

the average suburban voter in NY/CA are UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595267)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: cerise set clown

you are very low IQ.

You said average voter originally. Nice edit.

Now you are talking about average suburban voter in NY/CA who would never vote Trump anyway. This isn't anything close to the "average voter"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595282)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

hey dumbass, UMC suburban voters are the reason there are GOP reps from blue states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595304)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:05 AM
Author: cerise set clown

Eh they have become pretty fucking shitlib lately.

It's the uber rich and middle class that vote GOP in those states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595350)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

*leans into microphone*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595406)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: cerise set clown

*grabs your head and gives you a noogie*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595430)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Naked big-titted goyim stage

you're responding to the wrong guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595313)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

i'm not a strong opponent of addressing this deduction. but the "average voter" in blue states won't be affected by this and isn't shifting to the GOP because of this bill. the GOP has a strong constituency of UMC suburban voters in blue states that will get hurt by this, and they will be pissed. there is a reason the GOP reps from blue states are pissing themselves about this provision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595276)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

you are wrong about any pocket book voters switching to dems. not going to happen when they know that dems are much much worse on taxes. also this is painful for a narrow band of people - people making 300K~700K. below 300K you might lose a little bit but not so much that you are going to seriously notice it. and these people would be educated enough to know about dems and also will have other concerns (immigration, guns, free speec etc) to switch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595288)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:05 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

guess we'll see, brother. i don't think the average UMC suburban voter is primarily driven by immigration and guns in blue states. a lot of them are pro-choice and moderate on social issues, but just want "government to balance their checkbook" and "keep them safe."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595354)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

you must have been sleeping through 2016 election cycle. the only way these people will switch is if the economy tanks.

identity politics is here to stay however much you pray against it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595464)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

No you don’t get it, they’re going to vote dem for a tax cut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595759)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: Avocado site

and war is peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597141)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Are libs honestly going to vote against any form of a middle class tax cut? You guys are the blind leading the blind, suddenly concerned about how we can pay for these tax cuts for the middle class, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595297)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

as UMC i should be paying higher taxes. i just think this is a dumb, poorly thought out bill that will primarily fuck UMC people, have little impact on the actual poor and middle class, and give a huge boon to the wealthy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595328)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Any income tax cut to the lower and middle tiers necessarily causes benefits up the progressive chain. “Huge boon” to the truly wealthy is a red herring because they are sheltered to an extreme. You want to transfer wealth? Here son, take this Picasso and hang it on your wall. Why not take a tax break that matters to working stiffs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595375)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

totally agree. putting money and benefits in the hands of the poor and middle class is great because they spend everything while the rich hoard their wealth. if you're looking for a guy to say we should work harder to fuck the wealthy and redistribute wealth down the food chain, i'm you're man. but i don't think this tax cut bill does any of that and the net benefit to the people who should have lower tax burdens (and more benefits) is minimal in proportion to the benefit received by the people that have hoarded wealth and created this hellworld of astronomical productivity gains and stagnant to declining wages and opportunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595426)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Buck-toothed soul-stirring travel guidebook

I thought Libs love higher taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595300)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

Yeah, I support higher taxes. My point is this seems like dumb politics from the GOP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595338)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: cerise set clown

Fuckingn over people that don't vote for them anyway?

Uh no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595376)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

whatever you say champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595438)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

And we all know liberals experts on what is and isn’t good strategy for the GOP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595634)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

game recognize game. there are plenty of GOP pols i loathe but think are smart at playing the game. the current leadership are not among them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595641)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

I’m saying Libs don’t have any game so wouldn’t be able to recognize it. Current GOP leadership won house, senate and state governorships

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595677)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

If you're looking for someone to argue the Dems are good at running a political party, you're barking up the wrong tree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595687)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

I’m just confused why you’re so arrogant re: your analysis. What have you accurately predicted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595704)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

breaking: dude on xo is arrogant about his opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595807)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:55 AM
Author: cracking twinkling uncleanness

How exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595220)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: cerise set clown

SALT deductions gone over $10,000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595268)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle rehab

only property taxes to $10k. no state income taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595317)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: cerise set clown

That was the plan but haven't seen anything definitive.

Some articles have said its both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595435)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:47 AM
Author: beady-eyed impressive garrison azn

pretty sure it's just prop taxes - i think the articles that say otherwise are probably written by dumbs who misinterpret other articles that label the current proposal as " state and local property taxes" etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595708)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

Tax plan adds 1.5 trillion dollars in debt over ten years. GOP has made no serious effort at spending control. But keep talking about dem programs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595283)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: cerise set clown

link to adding to debt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595302)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/353097-senate-unveils-2018-budget-resolution

The budget would allow the tax reform package to increase the deficit by $1.5 trillion over a decade, though some Republicans argue this would not be the case because of gains from the economy.

‪ http://www.crfb.org/blogs/tax-cut-and-jobs-act-will-cost-15-trillion‬

Of the $1.5 trillion cost, roughly $1 trillion comes from business tax cuts. Individual tax cuts make up another $300 billion, and the ultimate repeal of the estate tax accounts for the remaining $200 billion.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595382)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 3:01 PM
Author: Avocado site

funny how libs thought dynamic scoring was totally appropriate for evaluating the ACA but not for tax reform

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597165)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Yeah libs are honestly concerned about the commonweal. Give me a break.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595323)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

deficit hawking is so stupid. we aren't on the gold standard, and the "deficit" is basically just a measure of how much inflation we'd have to endure to pay all our bills overnight. and we don't need taxes to pay for government spending either now that we're off the gold standard either. taxes are basically just a way to drive demand for currency and control money supply when all is said and done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595389)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: ebony spectacular tanning salon bbw

deficits matter, and any attempt to dismiss them is garbage

the proper defense here is that that deficit is going to get run up, if not by Rs than Ds. so we're in a super defective game where both parties just have to race to max out the credit card before the other one gets its hands on it.

on that basis, I'd rather see the card get maxed out on modest improvements to the tax code than paying for some grand high-speed rail project that runs directly from the capitol building to diane feinsteins house or whatever stupid garbage libs dream of blowing money on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595610)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

there is a hypothetical "deficit" that matters but we're not even close to it yet, and you don't really address my point that there is not such thing as a "deficit" when all the bills are paid with money printed by the payor. deficits only matter to the extent they represent potential long-term inflation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595626)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

It matters because in order to pass senate with 51 votes, they need deficit in year 11 to be zero. The official estimates put out by congress yesterday has a deficit of 150 billion in year 10, so this can't pass the senate without significant changes (easiest would be end tax breaks at 10 years, but good luck with that). I don't know if they could go "nuclear" on the Byrd rule though; I imagine they'd be wary of giving the dems that power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595617)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

i get the politics of it. i'm making a different point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595631)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:35 PM
Author: Racy piazza pisswyrm

legit made me think of things in a new light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599422)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: Naked big-titted goyim stage

How are the super wealthy affected by this plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595386)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:11 AM
Author: apoplectic theater stage athletic conference

It looks like a modest screwing of blue state umc's for a modest tax cut for other umc's. According to bloomberg this morning the bottom 35% of households would see no gains, and the big winners would be c-corp entities that previously had high effective rates. Peter King (GOP rep from Long Island) already came out against it. I think enough blue-state GOP congressman will ultimately vote against it to kill it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595408)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595442)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: cerise set clown

How did they calculate that the bottom 35% would receive no gains?

I'm sure they are fudging the math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595446)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

If you pay no income taxes (as opposed to payroll taxes) you won't receive a benefit because I don't think any of the new credits are refundable (I.e. Wont get you a negative income tax rate).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595475)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: cerise set clown

Oh so it's people that already don't pay income tax not receiving even more welfare.

I think we can all be okay with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595601)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

Not all of us apparently...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595616)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Likely false. Increased standard deduction with no change to earned income credit = benefit increase to low income people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595612)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: tan voyeur

elimination of personal exemptions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595643)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Apologies. For a family of four, it works. For refugees with 8 kids, it may not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595691)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

But they are eliminating personal exemptions so that cancels out the standard deduction to some extent. And how would that benefit people paying no taxes? (Not saying they need more money, but they are in the bottom 35 percent).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595651)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

This false premise is the libs’ excuse not to support the proposed tax cut plan that benefits everyone but a handful of UMC in Cali and NY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595484)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: burgundy round eye

cr couldn't imagine the GOP voting against the interests of UMC coastal shitlibs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595447)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

reminder: the right wing of the GOP is driving the bus, but they aren't the only people riding on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595492)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

You don’t think Ryan has looked at this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595622)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

sure, but he is teetering on the bring of losing leadership and maybe his seat. the right wing is running shit in the house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595662)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

And you don’t think they’re going to like estate tax elimination and sweeping tax curs for the middle class? Wealth tax on the Ivy League. Higher taxes on NY and CA Libs. This works out great for Texas. I’m pretty far right and love this. What do you think the issue will be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595670)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

the GOP loses power if it loses seats in blue states, and the bill will have a really fucking hard time passing the senate as currently formulated. if this thing passed as currently formulated, i think it would be a net negative for the GOP in 2018 and 2020. so by all means, pass it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595684)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

I don’t think higher taxes on top 10% earners is going to cost them anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595693)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: talking submissive whorehouse son of senegal

ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595706)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:48 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595717)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Hyperactive french chef

they will tweak and adjust it to get it to pass. that would be my guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595482)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: provocative school cuckoldry

you must Be flame. Everything you say is dishonest. Bottom 35% of households are welfare beneficiaries and of course pay nothing in taxes. Be sure to point that out next time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595611)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: cerise set clown

Libs are always like this.

They call a reduction in welfare a "tax increase" on poors. LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595628)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: Learning disabled gay wizard location

Likely worse than that. Increased standard deduction means lower agi and more eic. So not only do they not pay already, in many cases, they’ll get more welfare/wealth redistribution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595632)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: appetizing principal's office

and right on cue to talk out of your ass

yep, doubling the standard deduction only benefits the top 1% and has no impact on the middle class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597102)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:11 AM
Author: big peach institution psychic

WA bros come out pretty good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595414)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:21 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

Yeah, and Texas too. I'd be surprised if SALT stays property tax only though. A cap makes sense, but picking one form of taxation is dumb (although I get why they did it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595502)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:24 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle rehab

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595541)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

Narrowly targets trump area of New York (Long Island, upstate) which have high property taxes, while screwing renters in NYC (who pay a local income tax but no direct property taxes). Also benefits Texas which has high property taxes but no state income tax. Can you guess where the chairman of ways and means is from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595586)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: khaki prole rigor

coming down hard on property tax and mortgage interest would have too much impact on housing market. this as is will still impact housing market in high COL areas (and in higher end market of not high COL areas) but taking away all housing gimmes at once might be disastrous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595608)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: Brass hissy fit point

Home builders and realtors still hate the law. This is trying to buy off people like Chris Collins in New York and Tom McArthur in New Jersey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595630)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: fear-inspiring mad cow disease

It won't work without state taxes being deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598171)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: cerise set clown

It is extremely dumb. Is there any justification besides helping high property tax states?

States with no property tax at state level will just move to that from income tax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595604)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: exciting walnut indian lodge private investor

It seems fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595547)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:56 PM
Author: flushed flickering hunting ground menage

I have gotten zero credit for property taxes since I have been an AMT payer.

Explain how this helps or fucks me? I know zero about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598286)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 6:20 PM
Author: balding church building

Wrong. Gives high tax blue states an incentive to lower state taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598488)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: Avocado site

yeah im sure jerry brown will get right on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598495)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:36 PM
Author: saffron personal credit line

cr, ljl at the California legislature ever approving that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599426)



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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:43 PM
Author: Avocado site

theyre the most insane people in the country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599475)



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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: autistic love of her life ticket booth

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607040)



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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: autistic love of her life ticket booth

This is the best part of a pretty mediocre bill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607025)