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Did you know that some people study YEARS for the LSAT?
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:40 AM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn to break into the 170s. i had always thought people studied for 2-3 months then took the LSAT once or twice. but apparently a sizable number of people take it 3 or more time and study for 1 or 2 years or more to get into the 170s. these people are a large proportion of students at the top schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761537) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:20 PM Author: Comical organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763676) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat why did you flame out?
what do you do now? |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 9:58 PM Author: Comical organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34765088) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:44 PM Author: racy dark really tough guy center Explain the issue with the HR shrew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34765862) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:49 PM Author: startling copper incel electric furnace Wait dood. Elaborate please. You're clearly a smart dood.
How could a shrew bring you down? It wasn't just too soul-crushing?
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:17 AM Author: Comical organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34766089) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:55 PM Author: dashing federal meetinghouse jewess Take however long you need to write this story out IN DETAIL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34765944) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:08 AM Author: Comical organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34766018) |
Date: November 24th, 2017 10:41 AM Author: Ruby Property Fanboi I doubt there much utility in studying more than a few months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761540) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:43 AM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn there are significant diminishing returns. but after an initial 10-15 point improvement, it is still possible to improve. but it's probably something like 1 point every 2-3 months at that point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761546) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:51 AM Author: pale spectacular gunner yeah, no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761568) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:45 AM Author: aphrodisiac school cafeteria coffee pot It’s very learnable and there’s a ton of material. You could literally do all of it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761551) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:44 AM Author: Godawful corner tank I studied 9 months and improved my score from 164 to 175. But it's really more like I studied for 3 months twice with a 3 month gap in between. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761550) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:56 AM Author: Chocolate Deranged Hell Background Story csb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761584) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:47 AM Author: Deep coiffed senate i took the test cold got 167 for the purpose of qualifying as a tutor. Ended up going to law school because i got in. spent law school tutoring LSAT and was getting 180's on new tests.
I consider whether actually studying would have improved my future but i ended up in biglaw and got breakfast anyway. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:47 AM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn if you could go back to being a tutor for 50% of your current salary would you do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761559) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:10 PM Author: Deep coiffed senate No - i used to get THE FEAR even worse when tutoring. I tutored for about 40 hours a week and it was always stressful trying to think about what the fuck to say for 1 hour straight per session. Now i can just chill in my office for hours a day posting and "working"
but i had always thought tutoring could be an out. I helped a lot of kids get from mediocre scores to really good scores (for them). i got one kid from 166-172 - he went to HYSCCN
My biggest achievement was one girl who went from 130 to 146 and actually got into law school to live her dream. she was rich and engaged and her fiancé wanted me dead. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:11 PM Author: aphrodisiac school cafeteria coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761877) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat why did the fiance want to kill you?
also, did you ever have students who just COULD NOT IMPROVE NO MATTER WHAT because they had already studied a lot and improved a lot before they came to you?
how the hell did you get 40 hours a week? kaplan? testmasters? |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 2:26 PM Author: Deep coiffed senate Kaplan - I was originally an SAT tutor but there was more money in LSAT so i took the test (they required >95th percentile to tutor).
A lot of my hours were tutoring, although I had the odd class here and there. I guess i didn't average 40 hours - i probably averaged 25. I would do 2 hour tutoring sessions. Classes were pretty good. 2x/week and would get "prep" time. Also had a job in the office designing portions of the LSAT program and providing "support."
Fiance wanted to kill me because i was spending too much lone time. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:48 AM Author: Pontificating gay main people took it cold at 164; once did it drunk and got a 168; 179 highest PT but walked away on test day with a 174 cause retard timekeeper called LG section 5 minutes early; wasn't worth a retake because I had a lowerish GPA and knew I was out at HYS and 174 was above 75% at CCN so no point
taught it for 2 years as a 2L and 3L; always felt bad for the people who couldn't hack it; best student went from a 153 to a 171 on test day, worst student started at 157 and could never break a 168 even after 6 months |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:21 PM Author: Floppy field marketing idea Um, how was holy hell not raised for ending a section five minutes early? Half the gunners in my test session had personal timers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761937) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: Pontificating gay main people some people lost it; apparently this is actually not uncommon - we told people there's a good chance proctors will get sections off +/- 2 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763709) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:47 AM Author: Mint parlour goal in life during my test, the stupid boomer administrator actually answered his cell phone and held a conversation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906540) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 2:28 PM Author: Deep coiffed senate some people mentally just top out at 160's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34762754) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 2:39 PM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn why do you think the 157 guy never broke 168? i thought most people who start out in high 150s can make it to 170. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34762827) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Pontificating gay main people 125 iq with no work ethic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763701) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:48 PM Author: Drab Sandwich mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34765891) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:24 AM Author: Carnelian 180 church building knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906498) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:08 AM Author: sickened french chef stag film best strategy for "studying" LSAT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906439) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn i know several people who studied 2 years to get from 150s to 170s. they took EVERY practice test MULTIPLE TIMES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761565) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:54 AM Author: Laughsome Nibblets Twinkling Uncleanness Law is for grinders. Welcome to 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761578) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:11 AM Author: Crawly vermilion principal's office party of the first part In 2010, about 36,000 applicants had LSAT scores of 160 or higher.
These days, about 14,000 applicants each year have LSAT scores of 160 or higher.
I doubt these people that grind out the LSAT prep for 2 years end up choosing not to go law school. So the enrollment of people who are actually smart in law schools these days is shockingly low. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:21 AM Author: Ruby Property Fanboi Ljl I would be above both 75 percentiles at cls these days and only got a pathetic 15k scholarship when I went in 2010 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761685) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:17 PM Author: Floppy field marketing idea ROFL HOLY SHIT
Divided by 300 that means about 40 schools are needed for those students. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:28 AM Author: titillating police squad I studied on and off for 3 years, beacuse I didn't go about it properly.
I took PT after PT moving up from low 150s to low 160s, but it wasn't until I drilled by question type until I moved into the low 170s. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat how did you do in law school
what ls rank? |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:15 PM Author: boyish coral hissy fit I just kept taking old exams (didn't really "study" the test aside from working through the LGB once or twice) and my score range would gradually increase and tighten. Ended up taking like 25-30 old tests over a 12 month period. You just get a feel for the right answer the more tests you take and what used to be 50-50 guesses on the tough LR questions, you start "guessing" correct 90% of the time. Ended up taking it three times because 6 months after my first, they stopped averaging and started taking the highest score. Went up 2-3 points with each re-take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761894) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:17 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat what ls rank? what class rank? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761910) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:19 PM Author: boyish coral hissy fit Doesn't matter, thanks to INTP/ADHD I did absolutely nothing in ls and finished probably bottom 20%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761919) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:19 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat what do you do now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761924) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:20 PM Author: boyish coral hissy fit BIGMIDLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761933) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:42 PM Author: Chocolate Deranged Hell Background Story 180 same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763803) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: Dead nubile business firm stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763821) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat what does INTP have to do with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763846) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: boyish coral hissy fit Seems like all INTPs are chronic procrastinators (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763914) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 9:25 PM Author: titillating police squad 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34764929) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Charismatic Queen Of The Night Lol. Same here (INTP). Except I didn't study for the LSAT until the day before the test. Bought a PR book and worked through it for a few hours at the library before taking the test at USD the next morning. Got to my law center with the best of intentions, but each day was like "I'll catch up on my cases tomorrow." "It's only Thanksgiving, I can start outlining next week." Then a day or two before I'd ask my buddies for their outlines and then try to cram the entire semester into an evening at another school's law library. I'd read the outlines and then work through an entire primer in one sitting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35064690) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:50 AM Author: demanding sweet tailpipe Same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906546) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Floppy field marketing idea They are not a large percentage at top schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761905) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:17 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat you think lsat naturals are a bigger proportion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761914) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:20 PM Author: Floppy field marketing idea No. But naturals and one prep course are 95 percent or higher. The lowest LSAT score in my section was a cold 167. He was a banker/analyst who signed up for the test at 4 am when he decided he couldn’t go on in finance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34761931) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: Maroon Hairraiser Azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34762300) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:12 PM Author: Stirring Deer Antler Everyone from (xo 2007) took a timed prep test cold and got 175 or higher. We also did the same on test day. I really did this and poasted in 2007. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763323) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:14 PM Author: titillating police squad You are a big man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763347) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: High-end razzle-dazzle menage doctorate i probably studied/practiced somewhat intently for 5 months for my 177. but didn't see much improvement after 2-3 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763685) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:40 PM Author: supple cruise ship pozpig I remember a TLS thread where some guy studied for a year and ended up with a 161 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763795) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: Dead nubile business firm stain I got a 178 on my diagnostic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763823) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: excitant garnet location You are all low IQ twits. lmao at xo claiming to have an average IQ of 125 or whatever. You should all be deeply ashamed of yourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34763842) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:23 AM Author: Aromatic prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34766137) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 3:00 AM Author: High-end razzle-dazzle menage doctorate lmao whok you got your BOI-STINKER blown out ITT didn't u admit to "scoring less than 150 on the LSAT"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34766831) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 3:01 AM Author: seedy provocative stage psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#34766832) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:31 AM Author: harsh balding den boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906510) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35064172) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2018 2:45 PM Author: heady locus scourge upon the earth some people never really learned how to think strenuously under timed conditions. taking hundreds of prep tests is more about getting their atrophied brains to function. |
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Date: April 4th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Exciting indian lodge mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35759794) |
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Date: April 4th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Exciting indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35759789) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Cobalt Associate Kitty Cat https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15943/one-year-study-plan
ONE YEAR STUDY PLAN |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:56 AM Author: Thriller cowardly pit philosopher-king I'm pissed at myself for not prepping harder. I did a little bit of prep for a couple of weeks with some books.
But the one and only test I took under timed conditions was the actual IRL test.
I walked out of it feeling like I could have done better. I got a 162. |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:01 AM Author: yapping very tactful brunch internal respiration What do you do now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906409) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:01 AM Author: titillating police squad He poasts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906413) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:04 AM Author: Thriller cowardly pit philosopher-king Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906426) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:06 AM Author: yapping very tactful brunch internal respiration So why so mad about not studying more? Same outcome as others here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906430) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:21 AM Author: Thriller cowardly pit philosopher-king Well I really do feel that I ended up at a worse school than I could have otherwise. I probably wouldn't have ended up with HYSCCN no matter what I did, but I feel like I would have cracked the T14 with more prep.
I ended up leaving law school after 1L due to horseshit grades. Didn't fail any classes but I got like 2-3 Ds. I caught a bought of depression and stopped going to classes.
All things told, I guess I don't quite have a lot of regrets because I definitely would have hated being a lawyer and would flamed the fuck out at some point anyway. But it really is a fine line, and the whole concept that I could have gotten into a better school & finished my JD & stuck it out for a few years in biglaw is really appealing |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:33 AM Author: harsh balding den boistinker Nothing stopping you from studying for lsat and re applying. I’m sure uva would be happy to have you and willing to overlook your disastrous semester at GW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807563&forum_id=2#35906515) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Thriller cowardly pit philosopher-king Well with as dismal as LS apps are right now, CCN wouldn't exactly be out of the cards if I were a normal applicant with something squarely in the 170s
But I'm a nontrad with a shitty resume & I would absolutely flame out in biglaw, so there is no point to that approach.
If I were to ever be a lawyer, my only hope would be to go to a TTT on a heavy scholarship and hang my own shingle |