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why shouldnt i buy 20k worth of cardano @ $0.13 and forget it?

seems like a great way to earn excellent returns no? solid t...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/13/17
iphone alert went off bro
copper ticket booth
  01/02/18
...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/13/17
Where do I sign up? Is this possibly the next ETH? I'd buy...
plum reading party garrison
  12/13/17
that’s what they say. every decent coin seems to pop eventua...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/13/17
where do I buy it? who is saying it? I'd drop $5k on it, b...
plum reading party garrison
  12/13/17
bittrex dude. here’s an example http://www.forexnewsnow....
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/13/17
anywhere else? bittrex closed new registrations.
Excitant queen of the night field
  12/16/17
tbf it's gone up roughly 6x in the last week or two. but i a...
wonderful costumed macaca forum
  12/13/17
You have to buy ETH to exchange for shitcoin anyway.
lemon base new version
  12/14/17
Anyone got a comment?
copper ticket booth
  12/13/17
My worthless comment is that we are in a huge bubble right n...
hot violent fanboi theater stage
  12/13/17
unless youre using coins you already exist to buy in
curious genital piercing mad-dog skullcap
  12/13/17
Cardano pros: * Has a solid white paper behind it * Respec...
Hairraiser mint principal's office
  12/13/17
wtf why dont more xoers post shit like this. fuck everyoen e...
crawly locus
  12/13/17
...
wonderful costumed macaca forum
  12/13/17
...
Hairraiser mint principal's office
  12/14/17
...
Vivacious wine whorehouse
  12/14/17
...
primrose fighting nursing home
  12/17/17
ty for this 180 scholarship
Odious offensive parlour
  12/14/17
...
Hairraiser mint principal's office
  12/14/17
...
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/15/17
Seriously considering 1K in this
copper ticket booth
  12/13/17
...
crawly locus
  12/13/17
I'm buying a few k worth
Cracking Ultramarine National Psychic
  12/14/17
it’s up 50% today jfc
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/14/17
i tried to tell you guys. it’s at 0.22 now i like doublin...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/14/17
Don't poast under a moniker so ur advice gets considered
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/14/17
might drop a few ETH into this
Odious offensive parlour
  12/14/17
...
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/15/17
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ADA up 8%...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/15/17
up a bit down a bit isn't "up"
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/15/17
compared to overall alt coin market (so adjusted for bitcoin...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/15/17
ur gonna lose all ur fucking money
Mahogany roast beef temple
  12/15/17
or be filthy rich fucking models in fancy my soho loft
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/15/17
...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/16/17
...
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/16/17
still a good time to buy?
beady-eyed stage
  12/15/17
yeah
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/15/17
i’m a genius and you racists are all lucky that i grace you ...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/16/17
Cr I take back all the mean shit
Odious offensive parlour
  12/16/17
...
disturbing half-breed quadroon
  12/16/17
...
deep senate
  01/01/18
kicking myself for not completing BITTREX enhanced registrat...
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/16/17
Yes. Yuuge growth potential
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/16/17
lol
disturbing half-breed quadroon
  12/16/17
(note I'm holding Ada so do your own research)
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/16/17
ty
disturbing half-breed quadroon
  12/16/17
Bittrex new registration down for maintenance due to flood o...
Aromatic gay box office ape
  12/16/17
...
crawly locus
  12/16/17
lol ughhhh
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/16/17
...
wonderful costumed macaca forum
  12/16/17
37
green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth
  12/16/17
note that ada is growing in btc even as btc is spiking in us...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/16/17
Maybe an iota pump? Iota has better tech support, is in free...
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/16/17
...
Odious offensive parlour
  12/16/17
...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/16/17
What about xrb tho
crawly locus
  12/16/17
everyone note that i told you to take your cardano gains and...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/16/17
possible Cr
Odious offensive parlour
  12/16/17
I'll take gains put half in and let do.
unhinged cumskin keepsake machete
  12/16/17
...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/17/17
When brave little poaster is bumping a coin, you know it's t...
zippy hell
  12/17/17
...
beady-eyed stage
  12/22/17
this was a wildly successful venture and i have literally 0 ...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  12/22/17
no offense intended I was just bumping all crypto threads in...
beady-eyed stage
  12/22/17
...
Razzle-dazzle Sapphire Newt Stage
  12/31/17
...
Marvelous cobalt athletic conference people who are hurt
  12/31/17
would now be worth like 116K
copper ticket booth
  01/01/18
Now would be worth 123K
copper ticket booth
  01/02/18
...
copper ticket booth
  04/29/18
cq
crawly locus
  01/02/18
this bet would’ve been in the red as of this week. Both 1...
Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate
  03/18/18
Lmao https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cardano/#market...
thriller indian lodge
  11/01/18
...
violet charismatic wagecucks
  09/04/21


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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

seems like a great way to earn excellent returns no? solid team, favorable press - seems like it’ll have its inevitable moment in the sun. enough people would also think like me such that the downside seems low too

im going to do this and set an iphone alert for when the price hits $0.75

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913122)



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Date: January 2nd, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: copper ticket booth

iphone alert went off bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35066476)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:13 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913171)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: plum reading party garrison

Where do I sign up? Is this possibly the next ETH? I'd buy it and see if it goes to the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913178)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:15 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

that’s what they say. every decent coin seems to pop eventually so optimal strategy is maybe to go all in on a solid one vs buying eth at god knows what price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913193)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:17 PM
Author: plum reading party garrison

where do I buy it? who is saying it? I'd drop $5k on it, but not set a limit. If it becomes the next ETH or Bitcoin I retire. If it doesn't, no big deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913211)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

bittrex dude. here’s an example

http://www.forexnewsnow.com/forex-analysis/cryptocurrency/things-must-read-cardano-ada-invest/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913241)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 3:15 PM
Author: Excitant queen of the night field

anywhere else? bittrex closed new registrations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34936022)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: wonderful costumed macaca forum

tbf it's gone up roughly 6x in the last week or two. but i agree it has more room to POP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914447)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: lemon base new version

You have to buy ETH to exchange for shitcoin anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914686)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:46 PM
Author: copper ticket booth

Anyone got a comment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913470)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:49 PM
Author: hot violent fanboi theater stage

My worthless comment is that we are in a huge bubble right now and I would be careful about investing in anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913500)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:56 PM
Author: curious genital piercing mad-dog skullcap

unless youre using coins you already exist to buy in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913617)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 9:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser mint principal's office

Cardano pros:

* Has a solid white paper behind it

* Respected development team (if you can overlook their association with ETC)

* http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827564&mc=96&forum_id=2#34909354

* If Tezos selfdestructs before launch, this could wind up with first mover advantage for POS

* Even if Tezos and Ethereum's Casper launch first, there will likely be room for a few POS coins

Cons:

* Recently increased 4-5x, so may have already mooned for the short term

* If Tezos's foundation problems are resolved it is hard to see Cardano overcoming the Tezos budget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34913606)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 11:39 PM
Author: crawly locus

wtf why dont more xoers post shit like this. fuck everyoen else here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914429)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: wonderful costumed macaca forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914443)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:20 AM
Author: Hairraiser mint principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914660)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: Vivacious wine whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914680)



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Date: December 17th, 2017 5:37 PM
Author: primrose fighting nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34943586)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: Odious offensive parlour

ty for this 180 scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34921880)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: Hairraiser mint principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34922063)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:50 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929887)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: copper ticket booth

Seriously considering 1K in this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914321)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: crawly locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914425)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: Cracking Ultramarine National Psychic

I'm buying a few k worth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34914685)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

it’s up 50% today jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34918408)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 6:41 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

i tried to tell you guys. it’s at 0.22 now

i like doubling my money in 18 hours how about you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34921177)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 7:51 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

Don't poast under a moniker so ur advice gets considered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34921816)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: Odious offensive parlour

might drop a few ETH into this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34921891)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34927206)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:50 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ADA

up 8% in the last few minutes. i’m beating you over the head with money right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929883)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

up a bit down a bit isn't "up"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929892)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

compared to overall alt coin market (so adjusted for bitcoin spike) today’s return is fantastic actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929900)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: Mahogany roast beef temple

ur gonna lose all ur fucking money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929904)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

or be filthy rich fucking models in fancy my soho loft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929910)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34934883)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:58 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935112)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: beady-eyed stage

still a good time to buy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929893)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34929895)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

i’m a genius and you racists are all lucky that i grace you with my presence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34934857)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: Odious offensive parlour

Cr I take back all the mean shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935118)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: disturbing half-breed quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935133)



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Date: January 1st, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: deep senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35058763)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

kicking myself for not completing BITTREX enhanced registration

this coin still worth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935152)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:14 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete

Yes. Yuuge growth potential

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935202)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:52 PM
Author: disturbing half-breed quadroon

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935474)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete

(note I'm holding Ada so do your own research)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935493)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: disturbing half-breed quadroon

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935496)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:51 PM
Author: Aromatic gay box office ape

Bittrex new registration down for maintenance due to flood of poasters signing up to get dat cardano

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935458)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: crawly locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935504)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

lol ughhhh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935510)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: wonderful costumed macaca forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935886)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: green cheese-eating scourge upon the earth

37

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935915)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 3:00 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

note that ada is growing in btc even as btc is spiking in usd. crazy.

here's a potentially retarded high risk idea. take half your cardono gains and pour them into emc2 soonish. emc2 is bottomed out with lower volume, so perfectly positioned for a pump. plus they're teasing some "mind blowing" announcement on december 19th that may drive prices harder short term. ada still my play long term though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34935951)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 3:18 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete

Maybe an iota pump? Iota has better tech support, is in freefall, & I fear is emc2 is going to zero. [NB I OWN IOTA BUT NOT EMC2 ALL OF THIS IS OPINION PAST RESULTS NO GUARANTEE OF FUTURE SUCCESS]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34936040)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: Odious offensive parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34938597)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34937350)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 6:26 PM
Author: crawly locus

What about xrb tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34937362)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:07 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

everyone note that i told you to take your cardano gains and put them in emc2 (which is gaining momentum now)

these are neckbeard “coins” not offspring. lol at y’all getting emotional and not selling when appropriate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34938586)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Odious offensive parlour

possible Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34938634)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: unhinged cumskin keepsake machete

I'll take gains put half in and let do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34938747)



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Date: December 17th, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34943500)



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Date: December 17th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: zippy hell

When brave little poaster is bumping a coin, you know it's time to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34943506)



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Date: December 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: beady-eyed stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34983358)



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Date: December 22nd, 2017 10:00 AM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

this was a wildly successful venture and i have literally 0 regrets. i’ll liquidate the fuckton of bitcoin i made when appropriate

people are spiking the football on cryptos far too soon lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34983378)



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Date: December 22nd, 2017 10:01 AM
Author: beady-eyed stage

no offense intended I was just bumping all crypto threads in my "poasted in" portfolio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#34983384)



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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Sapphire Newt Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35050369)



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Date: December 31st, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Marvelous cobalt athletic conference people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35050377)



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Date: January 1st, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: copper ticket booth

would now be worth like 116K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35058750)



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Date: January 2nd, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: copper ticket booth

Now would be worth 123K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35066469)



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Date: April 29th, 2018 12:32 AM
Author: copper ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35942327)



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Date: January 2nd, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: crawly locus

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828141&forum_id=2#35066471)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Iridescent Cruel-hearted Associate

this bet would’ve been in the red as of this week.

Both 10x’ing and losing money within the span of 3 months = a normal investment experiencing tbh

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Date: November 1st, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: thriller indian lodge

Lmao

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cardano/#markets



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Date: September 4th, 2021 1:09 AM
Author: violet charismatic wagecucks



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