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Eminem's new album is so bad it made me lol when it came on the radio (link)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56KYMMGudcU
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
one minute in and this is fucking terrible, turning it off
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
cr it's unbearable
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3CmKofKTU
alcoholic cordovan prole den
  12/14/17
you guys are just mad he called trump out for being a clown
irradiated twinkling uncleanness
  12/14/17
WHITE BOY WHITE BOY
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
White boy, white boy, you're a rockstar My momma talkin' to...
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
Mixing in cheech and chong lyrics? Good god this is fucking ...
Onyx Cocky Tanning Salon Weed Whacker
  12/14/17
Should have quit with Marshall Mathers LP
pearly exhilarant headpube
  12/14/17
m-fing Cr right here
alcoholic cordovan prole den
  12/14/17
you misspelled The Eminem Show
Angry puppy
  12/14/17
Fair though that's where the wheels started to come off
pearly exhilarant headpube
  12/14/17
Relapse was his last legit album before going fully breaking...
Angry puppy
  12/14/17
*leans into mic*
alcoholic cordovan prole den
  12/14/17
?
Angry puppy
  12/14/17
TES was shit
alcoholic cordovan prole den
  12/14/17
cr
provocative buff messiness
  12/16/17
You misspelled conception
Violent Slap-happy Church
  12/16/17
who produced this garbage. he needs to get better production...
Canary thriller parlor
  12/14/17
Still working on The Chronic 3
Cracking know-it-all dilemma useless brakes
  12/14/17
can't wait until 2050
Canary thriller parlor
  12/14/17
These lyrics. It is a modern poetry. It is a criticism. It i...
Drunken Lay
  12/14/17
...
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
this analysis is almost as bad as the album itself.
provocative buff messiness
  12/16/17
This is the worst "song" in history
coiffed mad cow disease
  12/14/17
hahahhaa holy shit, i assumed you were exaggerating this ...
Obsidian corn cake indian lodge
  12/14/17
no i literally loled and said haha i have to poast this
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
...
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
Paul and Steve must be too rich to care
Amethyst Mind-boggling Shitlib Menage
  12/14/17
lol at this 50 year old white dork trying to stay relevant w...
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
eminem: the strongest argument for white people actually bei...
Obsidian corn cake indian lodge
  12/14/17
...
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
He should take this advice from a wise man: This is your...
pearly exhilarant headpube
  12/14/17
mfcr
dark rigor
  12/18/17
...
Vengeful Sex Offender
  12/14/17
"The album features a collaboration with Ed Sheeran, wh...
grizzly stage ape
  12/14/17
...
Obsidian corn cake indian lodge
  12/14/17
...
Comical set mad-dog skullcap
  12/14/17
...
Chestnut foreskin
  12/14/17
...
alcoholic cordovan prole den
  12/14/17
...
Angry puppy
  12/14/17
...
Gold supple indirect expression
  12/14/17
...
lascivious principal's office
  12/14/17
not even the worst one - the Alicia Keys and X Ambassadors &...
provocative buff messiness
  12/16/17
...
Stirring nudist hospital dog poop
  12/16/17
...
ivory autistic party of the first part brethren
  12/16/17
Unlistenable
Comical set mad-dog skullcap
  12/14/17
what a fall from grace
pea-brained corner
  12/14/17
Twist: he was never good. You were just a wigger
Violent Slap-happy Church
  12/18/17
haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgcHtEoyhp4
pea-brained corner
  12/18/17
did a major label release this?
crystalline glittery hell internal respiration
  12/14/17
Of course. It sucks, doesn't it? Music is engineered to ma...
Gold supple indirect expression
  12/14/17
...
Cracking know-it-all dilemma useless brakes
  12/14/17
Dido: "Whoa, he seems like a fag now."
Vengeful Sex Offender
  12/14/17
...
ivory autistic party of the first part brethren
  12/16/17
holy shit this is garbage
burgundy swashbuckling school cafeteria goal in life
  12/14/17
(WHITE BOY WHITE BOY)
Puce sick orchestra pit
  12/16/17
Lol and he's getting bad reviews for being too political ...
Vengeful Sex Offender
  12/14/17
this is so fucking bad
crystalline glittery hell internal respiration
  12/14/17
this sounds like sound track + voice overs of shitty 2000s s...
crystalline glittery hell internal respiration
  12/14/17
SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOM! IT'S A SONIC BOOM!
Spectacular pisswyrm
  12/18/17
Holy fuck that was horrendous
lavender electric point striped hyena
  12/14/17
...
ivory autistic party of the first part brethren
  12/16/17
"Throughout history African Americans have been treated...
Carnelian Resort Idiot
  12/14/17
...
Cerebral range
  12/14/17
...
Beady-eyed chapel selfie
  12/17/17
i like eminem but god damn that hook is bad
bronze church building
  12/14/17
WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY Literally lulzt.
Puce sick orchestra pit
  12/14/17
...
grizzly stage ape
  12/15/17
lmao give it up, gc!
appetizing halford
  12/16/17
WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY RADIOACTIVE, RADIOACTIVE
Stirring nudist hospital dog poop
  12/16/17
...
grizzly stage ape
  12/18/17
It’s hard to make good angsty/angry music when you have a 10...
Greedy white station
  12/16/17
cr
dark rigor
  12/18/17
So you don't even have to buy new hit albums anymore, you ca...
Red business firm
  12/17/17
Does his daughter have any kids yet?
Puce sick orchestra pit
  12/18/17
...
ivory autistic party of the first part brethren
  12/18/17
lol @ rappers. aging with less grace than glam rockers. pa...
Spectacular pisswyrm
  12/18/17


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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56KYMMGudcU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917755)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape

one minute in and this is fucking terrible, turning it off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917763)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin

cr it's unbearable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917800)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:12 PM
Author: alcoholic cordovan prole den

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3CmKofKTU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917780)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: irradiated twinkling uncleanness

you guys are just mad he called trump out for being a clown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917791)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape

WHITE BOY WHITE BOY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917805)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin

White boy, white boy, you're a rockstar

My momma talkin' to me, tryna tell me how to live

White boy, white boy, in your cop car

But I don't listen to her, 'cause my head is like a sieve

White boy, white boy, you're untouchable

The world's coming to an end, I don't even care

Nobody can tell me shit 'cause I'm a big rockstar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917810)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Onyx Cocky Tanning Salon Weed Whacker

Mixing in cheech and chong lyrics? Good god this is fucking sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918055)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: pearly exhilarant headpube

Should have quit with Marshall Mathers LP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917793)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: alcoholic cordovan prole den

m-fing Cr right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917809)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: Angry puppy

you misspelled The Eminem Show

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918602)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:49 PM
Author: pearly exhilarant headpube

Fair though that's where the wheels started to come off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918625)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: Angry puppy

Relapse was his last legit album before going fully breaking bitchmade on us with Recovery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918660)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: alcoholic cordovan prole den

*leans into mic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918707)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Angry puppy

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918754)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: alcoholic cordovan prole den

TES was shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34923937)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: provocative buff messiness

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936355)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 5:21 PM
Author: Violent Slap-happy Church

You misspelled conception

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936877)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Canary thriller parlor

who produced this garbage. he needs to get better production, problem solved. what happened to dre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917803)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: Cracking know-it-all dilemma useless brakes

Still working on The Chronic 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917808)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: Canary thriller parlor

can't wait until 2050

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917812)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: Drunken Lay

These lyrics. It is a modern poetry. It is a criticism. It is a truth. It is something that is hard to explain what it actually is. Eminem became an artist who has grown... his mastery. Keep up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917815)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917817)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: provocative buff messiness

this analysis is almost as bad as the album itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936454)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: coiffed mad cow disease

This is the worst "song" in history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917816)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: Obsidian corn cake indian lodge

hahahhaa holy shit, i assumed you were exaggerating

this is legit one of the worst songs i've ever heard

wtf how did his handlers approve this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917834)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin

no i literally loled and said haha i have to poast this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917840)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917842)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: Amethyst Mind-boggling Shitlib Menage

Paul and Steve must be too rich to care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920469)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape

lol at this 50 year old white dork trying to stay relevant with this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917845)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: Obsidian corn cake indian lodge

eminem: the strongest argument for white people actually being shit tier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917851)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917856)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:24 PM
Author: pearly exhilarant headpube

He should take this advice from a wise man:

This is your moment, and every single minute you spend

Tryna hold on to it because you may never get it again

So while you're in it, try to get as much shit as you can

And when your run is over, just admit when it's at its end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917859)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:51 AM
Author: dark rigor

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34946944)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:37 PM
Author: Vengeful Sex Offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920148)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape

"The album features a collaboration with Ed Sheeran, which is a track called River."

Wow, sounds dope!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917855)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:24 PM
Author: Obsidian corn cake indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917864)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: Comical set mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917883)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Chestnut foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917890)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: alcoholic cordovan prole den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917904)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: Angry puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918595)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: Gold supple indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918674)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:34 PM
Author: lascivious principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920118)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: provocative buff messiness

not even the worst one - the Alicia Keys and X Ambassadors "song"s are fucking cancerous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936366)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:09 PM
Author: Stirring nudist hospital dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936395)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:10 PM
Author: ivory autistic party of the first part brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936407)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: Comical set mad-dog skullcap

Unlistenable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34917878)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: pea-brained corner

what a fall from grace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918094)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 7:40 AM
Author: Violent Slap-happy Church

Twist: he was never good. You were just a wigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34947216)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 8:27 AM
Author: pea-brained corner

haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgcHtEoyhp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34947326)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: crystalline glittery hell internal respiration

did a major label release this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918128)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:51 PM
Author: Gold supple indirect expression

Of course. It sucks, doesn't it? Music is engineered to make people stupid and weak. Why do you think radio is still free?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918638)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Cracking know-it-all dilemma useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34918759)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:38 PM
Author: Vengeful Sex Offender

Dido: "Whoa, he seems like a fag now."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920154)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: ivory autistic party of the first part brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936377)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:44 PM
Author: burgundy swashbuckling school cafeteria goal in life

holy shit this is garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920205)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: Puce sick orchestra pit

(WHITE BOY WHITE BOY)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34932502)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: Vengeful Sex Offender

Lol and he's getting bad reviews for being too political

"Reviews of what we've heard of the album thus far have been mixed. Brian Josephs​ at Spin, for instance, wrote that the response to "Walk on Water" tepid and said "Untouchable" was "little more than a plainspoken summation of racial talking points." Pitchfork noted that the track was overly preachy and not as cleverly composed as some of Eminem's previous work."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920223)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: crystalline glittery hell internal respiration

this is so fucking bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920225)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: crystalline glittery hell internal respiration

this sounds like sound track + voice overs of shitty 2000s sonic the hedgehog games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920239)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:30 AM
Author: Spectacular pisswyrm

SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOM!

IT'S A SONIC BOOM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34946985)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:54 PM
Author: lavender electric point striped hyena

Holy fuck that was horrendous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920292)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: ivory autistic party of the first part brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936835)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 5:28 PM
Author: Carnelian Resort Idiot

"Throughout history African Americans have been treated like shit, and I admit there have been times where it's embarrassing to be a

WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY

Your a rockstar

WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY

Your a rockstar."

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34920551)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 9:00 PM
Author: Cerebral range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34922416)



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Date: December 17th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: Beady-eyed chapel selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34943640)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:35 PM
Author: bronze church building

i like eminem but god damn that hook is bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34923930)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:42 PM
Author: Puce sick orchestra pit

WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY

Literally lulzt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34923984)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:57 PM
Author: grizzly stage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34930590)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:10 PM
Author: appetizing halford

lmao give it up, gc!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936401)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Stirring nudist hospital dog poop

WHITE BOY, WHITE BOY

RADIOACTIVE, RADIOACTIVE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936413)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:42 AM
Author: grizzly stage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34946933)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: Greedy white station

It’s hard to make good angsty/angry music when you have a 100 MM dollar net worth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34936862)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:53 AM
Author: dark rigor

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34946946)



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Date: December 17th, 2017 5:54 PM
Author: Red business firm

So you don't even have to buy new hit albums anymore, you can just listen to them on YouTube?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34943688)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:46 AM
Author: Puce sick orchestra pit

Does his daughter have any kids yet?

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Date: December 18th, 2017 8:18 AM
Author: ivory autistic party of the first part brethren



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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:33 AM
Author: Spectacular pisswyrm

lol @ rappers. aging with less grace than glam rockers. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828828&forum_id=2#34946991)