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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:07 PM Author: bright motley half-breed
the facts are obviously on Mueller's side. the best the administration could hope for (and tried to achieve) was public perception that this isn't a big deal. now they don't even have that political cover.
the chances of trump being impeached by 2019 are over 80%.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070621) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 5:45 PM Author: bonkers gas station
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: cowabunga
the facts are obviously on Mueller's side. the best the administration could hope for (and tried to achieve) was public perception that this isn't a big deal. now they don't even have that political cover.
the chances of trump being impeached by 2019 are over 80%.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35073912)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Contagious Bat Shit Crazy Internal Respiration Tank
He will never resign or be convicted by the Senate.
Never, ever, ever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070627) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:45 PM Author: white patrolman
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe
You don't think 15 or so GOP senators (assuming senate stays somewhat the same after 2018) would vote to convict if Mueller recommended impeachment and charges? It's not impossible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070716)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070942) |
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Lodge Bbw
impeachment won't happen
one or both of DJT and/or Kushner are likely to be indicted, but Kushner will be indicted on more serious charges
Trump will grant them pardons
his supporters won't care
he will lose the 2020 election, which he would have lost anyway, but his supporters will draw parallels to Ford-Nixon and claim that is why he lost and not his 33% approval rating.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070642) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: red death wish jew
THIS
Is the most likely outcome.
GOP won't go against their own POTUS with their bat-shit crazy base.
However, Trump will be fucking DONE HERE in when he runs in 2020 with an indictment hanging over his head.
For every pardon he issues, he'll lose more and more non-Trumpmo voters.
Assuming a 3rd party candidate doesn't run and fuck shit up, Trump's 33% won't save him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070835) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:38 PM Author: bright motley half-breed
but GOP will almost certainly lose the house in 2018. Dems will move to impeach, and have subpoena powers, make a lot of shit public to embarrass him non-stop.
so he will be impeached for sure in 2019.
the question, as others have noted, is what happens in the senate. if GOP makes gains in 2018, Trump is probably saved. If the senate remains basically 50/50 in 2019, then he could be fucked. there are a lot of moderate senators in the GOP who would easily turn on Trump, and there are opportunists like Cruz and Rubio who would turn on him just to increase their chances of becoming President in 2020/2024.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070883) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:46 PM Author: bonkers gas station
“Trump’s approval ratings guarantee Hillary will win.”
-you 18 months ago.
Generic ballots don’t matter. Candidate vs candidate does.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070948)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:49 PM Author: bright motley half-breed
link to me saying that? oh wait, no, that doesn't exist dipshit.
first off, Hillary had similarly terrible poll numbers.
Generic ballots and Presidential approval numbers are shown to be highly correlated with how a President's party fares in the first midterm.
this is also backed up by ACTUAL RESULTS, which have consistently shown democrats outperforming Hillary's 2016 numbers.
If that continues to be the case then Democrats win right there, as there are 23 republicans sitting in districts hillary won. There are another two dozen in districts Trump barely won.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070987) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:54 PM Author: bright motley half-breed
redistricting cannot predict voting patterns 8 years out.
look at Barbara Comstock's district, which was gerrymandered to be an upper middle class suburban district with a republican lean. it's basically a lean democrat district now.
also, your response is idiotic and irrelevant as the 23 districts Hillary won and the two dozen that Trump barely won, have not been redistricted since then. Those margins already take into account redistricting.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071039)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Aromatic base karate
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, low income poaster(Short Pride World Wide)
0% chance GOP loses house in a midterm election
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071262) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: white patrolman
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: cowabunga
but GOP will almost certainly lose the house in 2018. Dems will move to impeach, and have subpoena powers, make a lot of shit public to embarrass him non-stop.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070964)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:38 PM Author: nudist nursing home philosopher-king
not really.
also, what you guys are debating is irrelevant.
he and many of his people can obviously be charged with something but this is all political at this point. if his approval numbers go down he will be charged in some form and he will not be able to pardon himself or the people around him because he will be impeached.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072113) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:39 PM Author: white patrolman
Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: ......,.,....
not really.
also, what you guys are debating is irrelevant.
he and many of his people can obviously be charged with something but this is all political at this point. if his approval numbers go down he will be charged in some form and he will not be able to pardon himself or the people around him because he will be impeached.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072122) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:34 PM Author: nudist nursing home philosopher-king
googlerbot:
The pardon power of the President extends only to an offense recognizable under federal law. However, the governors of most of the 50 states have the power to grant pardons or reprieves for offenses under state criminal law.
Pardon - Wikipedia
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072062) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:39 PM Author: nudist nursing home philosopher-king
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: .,.,,.;,,.,...:..,;;...,..,.;.;,,:..;..;...:..,.::
so New York, California, etc aren't the United States?
state your IQ
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071840)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072131)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:41 PM Author: white patrolman
o rly? pls point to the section of the constitution where a president who is impeached but not removed from office can't pardon people
Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: ......,.,....
not really.
also, what you guys are debating is irrelevant.
he and many of his people can obviously be charged with something but this is all political at this point. if his approval numbers go down he will be charged in some form and he will not be able to pardon himself or the people around him because he will be impeached.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072155) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:42 PM Author: nudist nursing home philosopher-king
never said "but not removed from office"
also you said this laughably absurd thing on your alt:
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: ;:;;:;:;;;:;;
Supremacy clause, lil breh.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071507)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072163) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 2:40 PM Author: nudist nursing home philosopher-king
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: ;:;;:;:;;;:;;
Link to any legal opinion saying the POTUS can't pardon for a state crime?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071618)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35072140) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:49 PM Author: white patrolman
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: cowabunga
I'm guessing you are referring to the Roy Moore debacle. If so, not really. Everyone sane knew that was an idiotic move on his part, but he doesn't speak for sane people anyways. This turn moves the needle just enough for the Trump crazies to be damaging. I'm not talking about the batshit crazy trash that posts on this site, but there are Trumpmos on the margins that will be deflated and stay home in 2018 now, and others who will be less vocal about their support for him or may even turn.
this is the beginning of the end.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070898)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35070984) |
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Fear-inspiring dysfunction
jesus fucking christ at the fake news media. and fuck drudge for givign this so much placement.
the guardian - THE FUCKING (((((GUARDIAN))))) - leads with this:
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
This is Bannon's actual quote:
“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.
“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”
Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071009)
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Disrespectful Galvanic Halford
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Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: short quotemo
jesus fucking christ at the fake news media. and fuck drudge for givign this so much placement.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071478) |
Date: January 3rd, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Disrespectful Galvanic Halford
lol @ how the trumpmos have changed the goalposts ITT.
"well, even if they do impeach him in the house, it's not like that matters"
"Bannon was always a loser"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3848084&forum_id=2#35071082)
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