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How was "DACA" even legal to BEGIN with?

how can an executive order just flat-out contravene a bunch ...
Disrespectful Tripping Church Building
  01/16/18
basic separation of powers, bro congress makes laws presid...
Cruel-hearted Theater Stage
  01/16/18
cq
Alcoholic Maize Address
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arrogant pearly chad
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beady-eyed market immigrant
  01/16/18
Did you not think that magic negroes had magical powers?
Concupiscible Brunch
  01/16/18
but seriously, it seems unlawful. and if that's the case, t...
Disrespectful Tripping Church Building
  01/16/18
Disparate impact Detrimental reliance Families Feelings ...
Concupiscible Brunch
  01/16/18
lawyers=scum
Yellow Indecent Hall Death Wish
  01/16/18
cr gas chambers now
Dun fragrant boltzmann
  01/16/18
i always thought detrimental reliance was the "stronges...
Jet Soul-stirring Community Account Nursing Home
  01/16/18
Hell no, that's not a legal argument.
Self-absorbed lime volcanic crater stead
  01/17/18
that's not how reliance would even work, though. it would b...
Disrespectful Tripping Church Building
  01/17/18
cq
Amber rigpig
  01/16/18
i refer you to the words of our founding fathers as written ...
Nubile trailer park lettuce
  01/16/18
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arrogant pearly chad
  01/16/18
The executive can exercise prosecutorial discretion. ...
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  01/16/18
Charging an application fee in exchange for prosecutorial di...
bistre sound barrier internal respiration
  01/16/18
I personally think the courts should stay out of it either w...
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  01/16/18
but they're also giving legal status via executive fiat; not...
arrogant pearly chad
  01/16/18
I just looked up "deferred" and "temporary&qu...
Concupiscible Brunch
  01/16/18
(Hawaii Judge)
emerald center
  01/16/18
i thought the power to suspend and dispense died somewhere a...
Nubile trailer park lettuce
  01/16/18
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execu...
Olive stage scourge upon the earth
  01/16/18
guy who enjoys first world immigration policies here, sup
soggy bateful school cafeteria
  01/16/18
It likely wasn’t. Janet Napolitano was allegedly not convin...
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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:26 PM
Author: Disrespectful Tripping Church Building

how can an executive order just flat-out contravene a bunch of existing federal immigration laws?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172014)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Theater Stage

basic separation of powers, bro

congress makes laws

president executes them, meaning he can elect how and when to execute them

congress's remedy for this is impeachment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172317)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Alcoholic Maize Address

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172020)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: arrogant pearly chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172023)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: beady-eyed market immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172021)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: Concupiscible Brunch

Did you not think that magic negroes had magical powers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172036)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: Disrespectful Tripping Church Building

but seriously, it seems unlawful. and if that's the case, then it is "repealed" automatically, since it would be a legally-invalid order.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172058)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:35 PM
Author: Concupiscible Brunch

Disparate impact

Detrimental reliance

Families

Feelings

Nation of immigrants

No take backs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172081)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Yellow Indecent Hall Death Wish

lawyers=scum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172088)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: Dun fragrant boltzmann

cr gas chambers now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172105)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: Jet Soul-stirring Community Account Nursing Home

i always thought detrimental reliance was the "strongest" public policy-type argument to be made. there really needed to be a legal challenge right when it happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172332)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: Self-absorbed lime volcanic crater stead

Hell no, that's not a legal argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35180166)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 9:51 PM
Author: Disrespectful Tripping Church Building

that's not how reliance would even work, though. it would be converted into something like a "taking" with demands for money compensation. the fact that people relied on an illegal law does not make the law lawful. cops can't "rely" on 4th amendment violations or something and then make those violations legal because they came to rely on their illegal methods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35180214)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: Amber rigpig

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172042)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Nubile trailer park lettuce

i refer you to the words of our founding fathers as written on the base of the statue of liberty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172096)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: arrogant pearly chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172098)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: wonderful walnut lay antidepressant drug

The executive can exercise prosecutorial discretion.

But what do you want, judges to order the Feds to prosecute? So the judicial branch is now mandating prosecutions and hearing the case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172100)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:42 PM
Author: bistre sound barrier internal respiration

Charging an application fee in exchange for prosecutorial discretion is called bribery

Also there's no prosecutorial discretion if the Hawaii judges won't let the prosecutors choose 1 out of their 2 options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172126)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: wonderful walnut lay antidepressant drug

I personally think the courts should stay out of it either way--executive function that can change without judicial review including after an election.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172291)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: arrogant pearly chad

but they're also giving legal status via executive fiat; not just not prosecuting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172172)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: Concupiscible Brunch

I just looked up "deferred" and "temporary" in the dictionary and it said "see also permanent".



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172194)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: emerald center

(Hawaii Judge)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172209)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Nubile trailer park lettuce

i thought the power to suspend and dispense died somewhere around 1689

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172266)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: Olive stage scourge upon the earth

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Yeah. Failure to faithfully execute is why we have a nation of cucks now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172357)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: soggy bateful school cafeteria

guy who enjoys first world immigration policies here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172219)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Transparent ticket booth

It likely wasn’t. Janet Napolitano was allegedly not convinced that President Obama had the authority to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862058&forum_id=2#35172338)