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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range 1) Genders differ in interests, preferences, and aptitudes. This makes 50/50% gender equality in fields like engineering an absurd and counterproductive goal. 2) Women in the workplace has been a disaster and most women would be happier raising children at home. Higher education for women is frequently wasted. 3) College for everyone is an absurd and wasteful goal and most people would be better off in a Swiss-style apprentice system. 4) Our $825 billion defense budget could be slashed in half without making us any more unsafe. It is driven by irrational fear and greed. 5) The IQ gap can be explained almost solely by genetics and this gap explains a lot of societal issues. 6) Democracy itself is largely a bad idea. Most voters are clueless and uninformed and the founders were rightly worried about mob rule. 7) Our modern consumer society is breeding misery and runs counter to everything we know about what constitutes a good life and fostering happiness.
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: aquamarine macaca great post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191128) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: vigorous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191315) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: Alcoholic theater stage hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192066) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:36 PM Author: Nudist Kitty Cat "5) The IQ gap can be explained almost solely by genetics and this gap explains a lot of societal issues."
"Almost solely" is too strong. But the genetics are very strong. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:41 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range We are learning more in this area and more recent estimates are as high as 86% genetic. I am confident we will eventually learn that IQ is up to 85-90% caused by genetics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192218) |
Date: January 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189212) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Ocher faggotry Joseph P. Overton (4 January 1960 – 30 June 2003) was a Senior Vice President of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.[1][2] He held a juris doctor from the Thomas M. Cooley Law School.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Overton
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Can't judge a man by his Cooley degree alone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190382) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190928) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:42 PM Author: Crawly mind-boggling bbw now THIS is an idea that's outside the Overton window (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191800) |
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Date: January 26th, 2018 6:16 AM Author: Aqua whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35242246) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:02 AM Author: chrome vivacious pit fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382563) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: vigorous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382576) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Cerebral Gas Station Gunner LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190457) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: beta point nuclear power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189216) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office GREAT one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189227) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range This is a good one. It is obviously the best clean energy solution if you know anything about energy and shutting down development post Three Mile Island has been a tragedy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189231) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: deranged sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191267) |
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Date: January 26th, 2018 6:16 AM Author: Aqua whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35242247) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: overrated excitant site travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189294) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: indecent sadistic spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189357) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: vigorous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189810) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: Alcoholic theater stage hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192071) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: aromatic stead dingle berry So much insight on a single post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189218) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189423) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office generally good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189226) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National The "homeless" should be rounded up and put into camps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189234) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189286) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office most homeless are little kids tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189300) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National I just mean the ones roaming the streets and subways. The ones living in legit shelters can stay where they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189330) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office stark raving bums. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189355) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range 100% agree. It is crazy we have as many bums as we do in places like SF/LA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189379) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Well-lubricated slimy reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189414) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 8:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac judgmental business firm dragon He said "homeless", not "urchins" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192772) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: mischievous orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190756) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Disturbing associate they are rounded up and put into camps. those camps just happen to be shantytowns and tent cities in urban areas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190776) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National Yes, I mean internment camps in the middle of nowhere, where you can't leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190791) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Disturbing associate i know what you meant. i'm just teasing you.
these internment camps should have nude lifting programs though, obviously. might as well start them on something productive. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190892) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Free-loading light public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190927) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:18 PM Author: Alcoholic theater stage hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192072) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: aromatic stead dingle berry Should a super disease be released to cull humanity to a reasonable population size? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189243) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189276) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: unhinged alcoholic nowag becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 2:31 AM Author: snowy idea he suggested senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382172) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:19 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office I guess throwing libs a bone on the non-violent drug prisoner myth doesn't hurt, rest is cr
Also, please be consistent re: spacing after the numbering. These details matter. Please revise and consider this a warning. Have a great weekend. Thank. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Will do. Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189292) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Crawly mind-boggling bbw Have a great weekend. Get those changes to me by 9 am tomorrow, I have a flight. Also, once I land let's set up a call to discuss additional edits and nits. Some of those could probably wait until Monday but would be nice to have a head start. Again, enjoy your weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191818) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range The modern education system is designed for girls and does boys a great disservice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189273) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Supple Deep Degenerate Bawdyhouse This is a good one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189290) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189305) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189358) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: aromatic stead dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189362) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: indecent sadistic spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189557) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: vigorous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189815) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: charcoal contagious toilet seat boltzmann What does an education system catering to boys look like (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190198) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: vibrant citrine masturbator Group work in general is huge flame, for starters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190354) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: charcoal contagious toilet seat boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190589) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: aggressive state codepig Lots of roughhousing and jacking off, but mostly jacking off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190437) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190446) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190460) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office competition
focus on application rather than memorization
tough discipline
rewarding adaptability and creativity
no group work
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: charcoal contagious toilet seat boltzmann Engineering major without the group work, then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190595) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office the engineering framework could be applied to other fields, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190753) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: charcoal contagious toilet seat boltzmann Gender studies majors play with blocks and playdough that's kind of similar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190782) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office Good pnt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190796) |
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Date: January 26th, 2018 6:17 AM Author: Aqua whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35242248) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: soul-stirring glassy casino no women teachers under 30, nor over 45. (no shitlibs, no old crone battleaxes either) no girls allowed. corporal punishment instead of suspension. (not perverted english BDSM whipping, run laps until they puke.) detention comes with mandatory hand-copying of school lessons. safe space for duelling. (eliminates bullying) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: vigorous heaven Less focus on fluffy subjects. Less focus on group work. More focus on exams and STEM subjects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382575) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:50 PM Author: razzmatazz mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190469) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:36 PM Author: deranged sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191271) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Glittery Volcanic Crater Space Don't think 4 or 6 are outside the window (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189274) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range 6 maybe. Four is definitely outside of the window. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189284) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190014) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Razzle Frum Church Building Turdskin cr. this is a good distillation of the Greatest Hits. should be formalized into a 10 pt document and circulated as statement of purpose by various rightist movements. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189275) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office I also think that the modern secular project doesn't scratch primordial itches and will inevitably fail. Perhaps this is not an overton issue idk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189303) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office kinda OW issue in that people are very married to clinical psych as an answer to our social ennui. and the idea that the answer to it may include GOD as a vital part of the answer is basically OW because it directly leads to WHICH GOD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189325) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: cordovan metal stage leftism *is* a religion, GC *is* a religion, it's all a religion
there's no such thing as "secular" humans outside of weirdos like us who abstractly analyze everything we come across |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office religion offers transcendence imo, don't see how leftism does that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189391) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: cordovan metal stage that means you're not a slave. good news! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189416) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Sadly religion is not true though. We must retain our christian culture and heritage, but with what we know now it is impossible to have a truly christian society anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189421) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office Yep. problem without a solution I fear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189427) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office i would argue that the catholic catechism and interpretative frameworks provide us the answer for this since, yes, you can't continue a society on objective lies (like libs try to do and is kinda what got us where we are). the problem is the catholic heirarchy is AS corrupt (maybe worse) the western liberal heirarchy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189433) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: Bearded idiot What is untrue about God giving his only begotten Son to die for our sins so that we may be saved shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189446) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office i think he is referring to the creationism...since, of course, christ died for our sins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189456) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Iridescent cuckoldry TCQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190568) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: vigorous heaven That's something I've understood over the years and why I'm planning on raising my children as members of a church. I don't really think they'll be religion and I suspect they'll outgrow it, but kids who grow up with nothing seem to find other bullshit that is much less harmless to occupy those brain cells. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189832) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: soul-stirring glassy casino ... like a CHRISTIAN church? o_O (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190913) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office may i suggest a
TRADITIONAL. LATIN. RITE. CHURCH. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
G.K. Chesterton |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: Sooty outnumbered box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191812) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:40 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams (Jonathan Haidt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191783) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: aggressive state codepig "I also think that the modern secular project doesn't scratch primordial itches and will inevitably fail. Perhaps this is not an overton issue idk"
This reality basically gave rise to the Nazis and will do so again. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: cordovan metal stage hierarchy is an inherently good and desirable thing
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189312) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189313) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: indecent sadistic spot the opposite is a dangerous socialist utopia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189326) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams I don't think it's good or bad. We're just bound to it whether we like it or not.
Agree this is outside the window - I'm just saying we have a better chance of having the conversation if we start with the inevitability of hierarchy (v its desirability). |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Pearly Disgusting Resort democracy needs to be ended and drug users incarcerated or terminated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189372) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Why not forced treatment? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189383) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: bonkers out-of-control marketing idea fat ankles 1 and 4 are in the window, #6 is fucktarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189449) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Idiotic stuff like the three-strikes laws has resulted in people spending their life in prison for stealing TVs. Drugs and immigration account for like 60% of the prison population. Deport the illegals and force non-violent drug offenders into treatment. Execute or lock-up for life psychopathic violent offenders.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/war-on-drugs-prisons-infographic_n_4914884.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27260073
The US penal population of 2.2 million adults is the largest in the world. In 2012, close to 25% of the world's prisoners were held in American prisons, although the United States accounts for about 5% of the world's population. The US rate of incarceration, with nearly 1 of every 100 adults in prison or jail, is 5- to 10-times higher than rates in Western Europe and other democracies.
Based on the results of its study, the NRC calls the US incarceration rates "historically unprecedented and internationally unique". |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: cordovan metal stage i mean, they could just stop selling drugs and stealing TVs, right?
no amount of "treatment" is ever gonna help those people, they're always gonna be a drain on society
every previous civilization just killed or exiled these people - we need to do the same. if there was another solution to this problem, somebody would have already figured it out in the past 5000 years |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Executing them would probably be optimal from an efficiency standpoint, but would result in a massive human rights backlash. You can't seriously argue we can't find a better way to deal with them then spending nearly $80K a year to lock them up? Over a 30 year period you are looking at $3M plus factoring in inflation.
At $75,560, housing a prisoner in California now costs more than a year at Harvard
http://beta.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-prison-costs-20170604-htmlstory.html |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: bonkers out-of-control marketing idea fat ankles The reason the US has a high prison population is that welfare plus civil rights has created a large class of violent black men who need to be kept in prison from 14 to 40 (this idea is very outside Overton). It has fuck-all to do with "non-violent" offenders, 3 strikes, or any of this other crap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189514) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Well-lubricated slimy reading party #6 is true on the surface. but I imagine that a lot of "non-violent" offenders plead down more serious crimes like robbery, assault, or organized crime, and that drug laws are a useful backstop for keeping menacing shitheads off our children's streets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189483) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range We need to separate out violent psychopaths - who need to be locked up - and non-violent offenders. Maybe "non-violent" drug offenders who are known gang members should be treated as a separate class and treated harshly as well. I don't know. I just know we lock up way too many people and it costs a fortune and ruins lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189546) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: stimulating tantric principal's office Heroin ruins lives. fuck these "drug offenders" anyone selling heroin in a sane society would be executed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189556) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Capital punishment for this would be okay by me. Spending $80K a year to lock them up for life is not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189584) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Pearly Disgusting Resort the oft-referenced class of "non-violent drug offenders" is a myth that has been exposed on this website in numerous posts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189839) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams #1 not in the window. Have you read the Damore complaint in the Google lawsuit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190051) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: bonkers out-of-control marketing idea fat ankles Just because the most shitlib company in the world doesn't agree doesn't mean that its out of the "Overton Window" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190303) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: aggressive state codepig 80% of the population wouldn't bat an eye at the claim that "boys and girls are fundamentally different and, as a result, like different things."
It is clear that OP is confusing the concept of the Overton Window and the professed sensibilities of the tastemaker class, who are trying to pull the Overton Window in certain directions. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:51 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams maybe 80% of the total population, but not the population that actually participates in "public discourse" (as per the Wiki definition of the OW).
and Google isn't just any old tastemaker.
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:51 PM Author: Crawly mind-boggling bbw cr. OP is addressing the Overton window among lawyers in California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191878) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Frozen station feces 4)Our $825 billion defense budget could be slashed in half without making us any more unsafe. It is driven by irrational fear and greed.
First sentence is true. Second sentence is rated mostly false. No one disputes the utter greed and waste in defense spending. But it's not from irrational fear. It's from the US's long term strategic view of projecting power globally and maintaining superpower status. Also our military realizes the importance of spring training, ie, gotta give our boys practice in actual shooting so they're ready for the next real war. (China doesn't get this and will get pwned when the showdown happens. No one in the Chinese army from the generals on down has ever been in combat ljl) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Fair. It is driven partially by the desire to project power globally and reinforce our superpower status. But the actual spending in defense is largely divorced from accomplishing this strategic goal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189491) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Laughsome primrose base "6)Our justice system is shameful and we imprison many people unjustly. No one should be in prison for non-violent drug crimes."
real talk thats outside the overton is that we need serious drug laws to lock up criminal nigs when we dont yet have evidence of their violent crimes.
believe me, no decent white person is in prison for oops possession. thats a weird canard but you should have known libs were lying since youve met thousands of drug users in college+professional settings and NONE of them have gone to prison for it |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Bearded idiot cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190908) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:04 PM Author: Shaky sick psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35193367) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: know-it-all big chapel Eugenics is a fantastic idea that would strengthen America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189692) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189695) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: vigorous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189817) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Racy temple laser beams No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190053) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: vigorous heaven Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190108) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: aggressive state codepig I'm working on this one . . . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190479) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: soul-stirring glassy casino eugenics = central planning socialist shitlibbery
free market genetic breeding ftw. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Mass sterilization and cheap and widespread birth control in Africa should be a top priority.
Genetic engineering for higher IQ populations should be a priority.
Dumbs should be provided incentives to not breed and higher IQ healthy people should be provided incentives to breed.
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: vigorous heaven Except, not just in Africa... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189821) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: Lemon market Africa, yes, but above all Muslims wherever they may be globally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189886) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: soul-stirring glassy casino lets see you stick to this program when asians are privileged above whites (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190934) |
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Date: January 26th, 2018 4:10 AM Author: Bateful duck-like antidepressant drug garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35242131) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Cowardly legal warrant sanctuary Sterilizing hispanics and blacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189827) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189833) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Lemon market Yes, but most importantly all Muslims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189891) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: vigorous heaven Cultures are not all equally good. Some cultures absolutely suck and we don't want them here.
Maintaining a distinct and American culture is also a good thing.
Tech companies manipulating information is a serious threat to the entire country.
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range All CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35189954) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Glittery Volcanic Crater Space I believe that was BEFORE Trump. Now those first 2 are the middle of the Overton Window. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190003) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range It is amazing how he has moved the window on those subjects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190034) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Lemon market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190031) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Stirring hell academically, philosophy and literature etc. are either leisure activities for the noblesse or the domain of highly intelligent people who can make material contributions to their respective fields
whether they should be offered as majors at all at schools beneath the top 25-30 or so (being generous) is highly debatable. nobody being "trained" as a philosopher at a lesser school will be able to contribute to the field or use his education in a productive way. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range You don't think there are ANY students at someplace like Ohio State or Texas A&M that would benefit from a philosophy major or double major? Most people at Harvard aren't making material contributions to the field either. I think more people should be studying philosophy and logic not less. On the other hand, english literature shouldn't even be a major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190023) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Stirring hell minor or double major is fine. the difference between the harvard kid and the texas a&m kid is that the harvard kid a) has a chance to contribute to the field based on his intelligence, b) comes from money, or c) has a strong enough pedigree to find a good job in spite of his major. so even though most of these kids aren’t contributing to the field, it’s good that the discipline is still taught there so that the potential contributors are still being trained, and it doesn’t come at much cost to the other kids in the major because it's not like they won't be employable or will end up destitute. hence my comment about leisure for the noblesse. philosophy can still be a good double major or minor but anyone focusing entirely on philosophy or literature at a worse school would be better off at least splitting time between that and pre-law, some easy business garbage, rudimentary programming, even something like journalism tbh. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range I basically agree. There should be more certificate program/tech boot camps/mini-MBA programs for kids who want to major in philosophy or history or whatever. The problem is the philosophy major graduates with no marketable skills. The answer isn't to not offer the majors, it is to make sure they graduate with marketable skills. Undergrad business and journalism majors are barely defensible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190094) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Stirring hell majors like business are prole and not rigorous but they at least leave kids with shreds of knowledge which will help them to get jobs. something like accounting is not difficult at all, yet just two fairly basic courses in accounting would make a kid with an otherwise pedestrian intellect very employable out of college. the point is that kids are increasingly treating college as an extension of high school – not so much as preparation for what you’re going to do with your life (which would force them to think much more seriously as to whether college is even appropriate for them) but as something that is almost a necessity today, regardless of your major. so kids go through the system without much thought, and then after ending up on the job market realize that they don’t know what they need to know to be employable. this would be fine for a) the potential contributor, b) the kid from money, or c) the kid with a pedigree to get a job regardless, but for anyone else it’s a waste of years and tuition $. these kids are then left to spend more years and $ on dumb graduate degrees like MBAs and journo degrees when they were just as capable of learning everything that they'd learn in those programs as an undergrad. this is the kind of stuff that should be taught at the undergraduate level. MBAs exist in part precisely because the material isn’t hard, which leads to employers treating credentials as a proxy for intelligence, but in principle kids are still capable of learning this material without having to do second degrees. i am all for the idea of a liberal arts education but, especially for non-elite kids, it needs to be anchored in some sort of constructive training. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: vigorous heaven Business majors generally have great employment stats. The purpose of college is to get people jobs, full stop. These days though, you don't just major in college. You spend a year fulfilling GECs and then apply to the b-college. So after the dumb kids fail to get in they major in something totally useless, which makes no sense for society. IRL, if you can't get into the b-school you should have to peace out unless you have some amazing talent in something useful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190307) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 7:58 AM Author: flesh appetizing set therapy nobody should be doing a 4 year "degree" in "business". it's a vocational subject, it should be taught by dedicated providers of vocational training. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382546) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: vigorous heaven Not only is this false, but the most popular business degree is a grad degree. Also, anything useful is "vocational". And we need to stop funding useless subjects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382552) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: flesh appetizing set therapy "business" is a mostly useless subject.
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Date: February 12th, 2018 7:55 AM Author: flesh appetizing set therapy universities should not be teaching accounting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382542) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:01 AM Author: vigorous heaven Of course they should. English lit, OTOH...
You need to back up and ask the purpose of college/grad school. The answer is to prepare the next generation for employment. Full stop. |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 8:08 AM Author: flesh appetizing set therapy accounting qualifications are administered by an external private organisation. why should universities provide training for these exams when it can be provided more effectively with much lower overhead by specialized private providers of training? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382581) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Cal-Irvine is one of the best philosophy of science programs. If you look at the background of the students, most didn't go to elite schools. And these are the type of people making contributions to the field.
https://www.lps.uci.edu/grad/students.php |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: Stirring hell a solution to this could be to force kids to apply for philosophy majors during or after freshman year, so that only the kids with potential get in. i know yale does this for a couple of majors for example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190289) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range Agree with that approach. They need to raise the prestige of a philosophy degree to serve as a better market signal. If I was hiring an entry-level employee and my choice was a kid who got into a difficult program and thrived and someone who had an undergrad degree in business I would pick the philosophy major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190333) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Heady Rehab Candlestick Maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190057) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National The actual study of real philosophy and classic literature is fine, and everyone, even dumbs, should have exposure to them. What needs to be cut out are the various shitlib "studies" fields, sociology, etc, as well as the cultural Marxist faculties who have infected formerly respectable fields of study. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190341) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range 100% correct. Liberal arts should be about exposing kids to the best writing and most profound thoughts their civilization has produced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190365) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Stirring hell yeah. like i said above i am all for a liberal arts education. in fact i think it's an important part of what distinguishes the american education system from something like east asia. if i was designing the academic regulations for a top university i wouldn't be opposed to some kind of chicago-style core curriculum.
but there are rapidly diminishing returns for kids at lesser schools who are loading up on literature just because they find other subjects "boring" or because they "don't like math" or something. at that point it's no longer about exposure or "culturing". |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Exhilarant Cobalt Death Wish National fair point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190443) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: vigorous heaven The government shouldn't be funding useless academic program. Are you a 3.1 GPA HS grad that wants to major in english lit/classics/other BS at the local state U? Fuck off, you get zero funding/gov loans for that and neither does the school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190150) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range These kids should be in an apprenticeship, not college. Most students major in worthless vocational subjects that are not worth much more than a lit major TBH. It is a myth that there are all these philosophy majors out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190217) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: vigorous heaven I wouldn't say "vocational" but rather purely academic areas of study that were focuses of college back when college was primarily there to culturally enrich the children of the super rich, rather than legitimately prepare them to send resumes for a job. You're talking about kids that had a job lined up from birth. They were never intended to take average Joe and prepare them to get a job.
What is really worse is that colleges actually encourage you to major in this bullshit (via grade inflation for those subjects relative to STEM subjects) because it is cheap for them. Professors are cheap, there's no lab equipment to buy, etc. Then you end up with those students graduating with a ton of non-dischargeable debt, no career prospects and the college isn't on the hook at all. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range The Swiss system is the answer. Way, way too many kids are in traditional higher education because they have no other choice.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/training-for-success_switzerland-thrives-on-apprenticeship-tradition/43769858 |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: vigorous heaven The problem is that American companies hate training people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190411) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: soul-stirring glassy casino why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190929) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: vigorous heaven Because it is really easy to hire/fire people in the US. You just occasionally fire a bunch of people with old skills, hire new people with "new" skills for less (either out of internships or via H1Bs). You can even force the old workers to train in the new ones (in exchange for small severance). In Europe firing people is really hard once they've been there for some period of time so companies actually invest in things like training. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191029) |
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Date: February 12th, 2018 7:51 AM Author: flesh appetizing set therapy the swiss / german apprenticeship model exists mainly because the government mandates it - companies run training schemes because they have no choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35382533) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: razzmatazz mediation Agree with 100% of OP
edit- would rather decriminalize vice than "reform the justice system" |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: vigorous heaven A lot of recent moral panic about "inappropriate sex" is totally insane or blown entirely out of proportion. Whether a manhunt for a teacher who ran away with a 15 year old that exceeded manhunts for terrorists or #metoo or the whole college crackdown, we're basically treating sex as the new war on drugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35190838) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191265) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35191288) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 5:54 PM Author: Odious insane school party of the first part Great post - but I'm not sure about #6. It's not too outside the mainstream to discuss over-imprisonment relating to non-violent drug crimes, e.g. mainstream libertarians discuss openly their belief that almost all drugs should be completely legal and govt. shouldn't have a say in what you put in your body.
I think this is b/c the Overton window is primarily restricted by leftist thinking / inability to discuss or engage these topics, and it's actually a mainstream leftist belief that we are tragically imprisoning far too many people (although they're mostly focused on the disparate racial effects of this). |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range I agree that the window is mainly constrained by leftist thinking because they largely control/run the media. Look at the former president of Harvard losing his job due to a media uproar over his fact-based and innocuous comments. He basically said men are intrinsically more interested in technical/engineering topics on average, they are more willing to sacrifice their personal lives for career success, and more men have high-level math ability (six times as many boys score over 700 on the math SAT or something close to that). It shouldn't come as a surprise that there are more male physics and engineering professors given these facts. It was all over the news, with outlets wrongly stating he said boys are better than girls at math.
Number 6 should probably be deleted, but it is remarkable to me that there isn't more of an uproar about the fact that we are paying $80K a year to house prisoners for years that have relatively minor, non-violent offenses. |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: thriller canary stag film Ljl at sneaking a standard SJW talking point in at 6 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192089) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:22 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range I have retracted that idea because it is not outside the window. But I do think the SJW have a point about our shitty justice system. I think there needs to be harsher punishment for violent sociopaths and we need to decriminalize drugs and prostitution and alternatives to jail should be considered for non-violent offenders. It is a different take than the standard SJW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192112) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:49 PM Author: thriller canary stag film Drugs and prostitution have highly negative externalities that need to be redressed however the prison population does not contain a large proportion of people incarcerated for merely using those things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192276) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:32 PM Author: thriller canary stag film Ethnic demographic change is the greatest existential threat to western civilization which has resulted from women's suffrage and before that, the fall of Christianity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192167) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35192190) |
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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:06 PM Author: Cracking Pervert Windowlicker Legitimacy comes from the top-down, not bottom-up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864495&forum_id=2#35193380) |