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Trump WH explains why it won't implement Russia sanctions Congress passed 530-5
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:51 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping The Trump administration, under fire from lawmakers for not punishing Moscow over election meddling, said Monday it will not implement Russia-related sanctions mandated by Congress last year because the threat itself is acting as a "deterrent."
The decision was made public after nightfall on deadline day for implementing sanctions against those who do business with Russian defense and intelligence firms, as required under a 2017 law.
Since the law took effect six months ago, said State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert, "We estimate that foreign governments have abandoned planned or announced purchases of several billion dollars in Russian defense acquisitions."
The decision was less concrete than some lawmakers envisioned when the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act passed last summer. Though also mentioning Iran and North Korea, the law was billed as a U.S. response to Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election.
A list of potential targets was drawn up last month in anticipation of Monday's deadline for implementing secondary sanctions. Instead, a State Department official said there is no need for them to be put into place now "because the legislation is, in fact, serving as a deterrent."
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: nudist anal juggernaut newt wlmas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319814) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: underhanded hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319833) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: Carnelian point lol he's such a traitor. its so obvious and his supporters are either too dumb to see it or they don't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319828) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Thriller coral partner university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319838) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: soul-stirring sepia double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319840) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone comical parlor philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319877) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319854) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: charismatic very tactful jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320183) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:03 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Any Trumpcucks want to defend this? Or Russians like TMF, Holdup and “ggtp”? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319880) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: Thriller coral partner university Congress passed 530-5 ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319888) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Supple goal in life water buffalo This came up last week. The Trumpmo arguments were "sanctions are a psychotic lib demand" and "Russia is 180."
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3875717&mc=40&forum_id=2 |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: passionate step-uncle's house that thread didn't go the way you think it did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320001) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Talented Den he's not a very deep thinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320016) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone comical parlor philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319915) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping I agree with most of this but don’t see how it’s responsive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319968) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Ocher institution international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320232) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: glittery brunch "Author: ,,, ,,, ,;,,; ,.,.,.;,,,,, ,, ,,,; ; ,,,,.,...,,,,
I agree with most of this but don’t see how it’s responsive"
lol, WLMAS is basically a republican who hates the GOP because they don't respect apes and that fact triggers his racial inferiority complex.
So deep is his racial complex that he will overlook every single one of Obama's flaws, even when he purports to disagree with Obama on a number of issues, even though every candidate who ever ran against Obama specifically warned Obama about Russia, it doesn't matter, Obama satiates his racial inferiority complex. |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: histrionic abode elastic band Sad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35321009) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Ivory gay wizard Not spics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320240) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 7:35 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone comical parlor philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35327296) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: Ocher institution international law enforcement agency sure ill defend it. its obviously the right decision and youd have to be unhinged to disagree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320079) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Lol at this vatnik stooge, don’t ever come back to this country u treasonous fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320216) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Ocher institution international law enforcement agency how's your blood pressure, faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320233) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Ocher institution international law enforcement agency also there's no such thing as '530-5'. the two houses are distinct and should be treated so. otherwise you could say the healthcare repeal passed on aggregate. just a stupid way to present information (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320084) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: impressive crystalline sex offender When there are only 5 no votes, it's not an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320782) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329095) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: mint stage mad cow disease (guy vehemently enforcing drug and immigration laws) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319910) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping What (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319946) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: mint stage mad cow disease do u want all laws enforced as much as you want this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319984) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320011) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:17 AM Author: Talented Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319988) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: passionate step-uncle's house libs are pathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319936) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: greedy dark school cafeteria alpha russia is one eighty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35319951) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: Dashing resort The 80's called! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320048) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: Talented Den can one of you libs remind me again, how many countries did Russia invade while Obama was President? how many while Trump is president? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320057) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Not sure what that has to do with Trump refusing to implement sanctions that passed Congress 530-5 because preventing those sanctions are the top priority of the kleptocrat security state assholes who run Russia and own Trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320080) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: Talented Den yes it's a totally irrelevant question. so what's the answer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320085) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Make a new thread and I’ll answer it there since you acknowledge that it has nothing to do with Trump refusing to implement sanctions that passed Congress 530-5 because preventing those sanctions are the top priority of the kleptocrat security state assholes who run Russia and own Trump
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Talented Den no go ahead and answer it here. you got something to hide? are you drinking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320175) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping No thanks, not interested in responding to what you yourself just acknowledged was an attempt to distract. Make a new thread and I’ll happily respond to it since you acknowledge that it has nothing to do with why Trump refuses to implement sanctions that are a top priority for Russia’s criminal ruling class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320208) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Talented Den still waiting for your answer, dummy... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329299) |
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Date: February 6th, 2018 7:07 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Holy shit just realized this is Kenny, keep fuming (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35336643) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Peach spectacular jewess Reminder: This also would have been the vote count for boots on the ground in Syria under a President Clinton. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320061) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Typical Russian deflection. Did you make borscht yesterday? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320086) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Peach spectacular jewess Nonresponsive.
Does the bill give the President discretion? Yes or no. |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Why didn’t u post that first u dumb Russian cow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320101) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: Peach spectacular jewess Still nonresponsive.
I thought this part of the article, which you left out, was interesting:
More details were provided to Congress in classified briefings, and some Democrats were angered. Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said he was “fed up” with the administration’s failure to punish Russia over election interference.
So more of Dems grandstanding about information they don't believe will be made public, so they can say whatever they want about it. |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping Lol at you flailing about. Are you arguing that Trump will implement the sanctions or that he is rightfully exercising his alleged discretion not to do so? He’s a compromised traitor who owes your countryman Putin and is bending over to appease him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320142) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: Peach spectacular jewess He is exercising his RIGHT not to, and gave more information to Congress than we have. That is a key detail you left out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320181) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320292) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: glittery brunch (guy who loved Obama for DACA) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320309) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess Nonresponsive
Why didn’t you decide not to put that paragraph in your OP? |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Copy and paste is annoying on iPhone u dumb cow, lol at thinking that portion helps excuse this compromised Kremlin tool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320384) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess And yet you managed five paragraphs perfectly and chose not to include a link. Odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320386) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping This subthread is done unless you want to share you borscht recipe Irina (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320512) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: glittery brunch "The 1980s called"
-your King Nigger who can do no wrong
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320543) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: glittery brunch https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160727235039-47-dnc-gallery-0727-super-169.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320777) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Bateful at-the-ready heaven blood rage I mean he should enforce the sanctions what with Putin promising to start WW3 if he does. I want WW3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320174) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 7:32 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35327294) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: galvanic lavender state tattoo Trump is a strong and intimidating leader. He doesn’t need additional sanctions to do what obama could never do: stand up to Russia and get them to stop invading countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320211) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: Ivory gay wizard Lil Donald not even subtle about being a Russian dick sucker any more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320249) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Thriller coral partner university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320479) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320765) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: histrionic abode elastic band They hacth the electhion!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320783) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Erotic Godawful Tanning Salon The odds he really is a Russian stoodge are like 9 percent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320789) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Missing a 0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35320847) |
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Date: February 4th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35321004) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328869) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: 180 metal indian lodge ape Doesn't matter if it's unanimous. Foreign policy = POTUS's job, not Congress's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328914) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Peach spectacular jewess And his non-interventionism is one of the big reasons he was elected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328933) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: khaki titillating dopamine The unanimity shows how far out of the mainstream the admin's policy with Russian sanctions is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328941) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess The "mainstream" also wanted boots on the ground in Syria. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328967) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping This isnt abou Syria it is about financial sanctions against FSB/SVR/GRU connected oligarchs you stupid Russian cow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328976) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess My point was obviously to say that just b/c Congress is virtually unanimous on something doesn't mean they're right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328995) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Contagious french market WLMAS is brutally low iq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328997) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: glittery brunch But according to WLMAS 'Kleptocroatic Oligarchs' own him for investing in his properties, even though they've invested in every other major real estate developer's properties too.
Were the Developers who sold properties to Prevezon accessories to money laundering too?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/thomasfrank/secret-money-how-trump-made-millions-selling-condos-to
"The property records analyzed by BuzzFeed News would not by themselves reveal money laundering – only warning signs. And Trump is not unique in selling condos to cash-paying shell companies. BuzzFeed News examined non-Trump buildings in Manhattan and South Florida and found that roughly the same percentage of units were sold to shell companies in all-cash transactions as in Trump buildings."
How can a seller be liable beyond due diligence? (which effectively doesn't exist in the RE industry as it is explicitly exempt from KYC laws per the Patriot Act). |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine No they didn't. I'd also add that Trump's policy on Russian sanctions doesn't appear to be part of any coherent articulated strategy to further American interests. The non-enforcement is surprising since it is not part of any broader deal or framework with Russia in which the US would be receiving something in return. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329164) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess Even the National Review was clamoring for intervention less than a year ago, and all establishment candidates in 2016 wanted that and then some.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446509/syria-non-intervention-carries-steep-price-then-now |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Try to stay focused on the sanctions that Trump is refusing to implement because they are Putin’s top priority (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329247) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess My posts go directly to LTM's post, thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329273) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine No dem in Congress was calling for boots on the ground and I guarantee most GOP members wouldn't do it either, push come to shove. So your comparison of support for a Syrian invasion (well less than a majority of Congress) vs support for sanctions against russian kleptocrats (530 votes) is retarded. And of course, Trump hasn't even articulated why exactly he is not enforcing the sanctions, which should arouse everyone's suspicions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329288) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Peach spectacular jewess "More details were provided to Congress in classified briefings" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329297) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: 180 metal indian lodge ape What are we getting out of sanctioning them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329293) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine Weakening the kleptocratic neanderthals in Russia that have invaded a neighboring pro-western democracy, engaged in aggressive military actions abroad, and engaged in an aggressive campaign to influence western elections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329368) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Dashing resort so adressing a bunch of obama admin fuck ups? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329388) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine I don't think they were obama "fuckups", but that's irrelevant to the issue. The administration's policy on the sanctions is not only extremely fringe, but it is also being conducted without an articulated strategy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329416) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: glittery brunch Obama literally had an out-of-mainstream policy approach to Foreign Policy and especially Russia in '08/'12. Hillary and Obama were almost identical on all issues except for Foreign policy/Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329448) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping These sanctions are a top priority for Russia’s security state oligarchs. Those oligarchs paid obscene kickbacks to Trump. Sound strategy to pay back your benefactors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329449) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: glittery brunch So investing in US real estate properties, in the properties of all major real estate developers is a 'kickback'. Did the oligarchs give all of those other developers 'kickbacks' as well?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/thomasfrank/secret-money-how-trump-made-millions-selling-condos-to "The property records analyzed by BuzzFeed News would not by themselves reveal money laundering – only warning signs. And Trump is not unique in selling condos to cash-paying shell companies. BuzzFeed News examined non-Trump buildings in Manhattan and South Florida and found that roughly the same percentage of units were sold to shell companies in all-cash transactions as in Trump buildings." |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329484) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: glittery brunch https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160727235039-47-dnc-gallery-0727-super-169.jpg
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: glittery brunch Was Prevezon giving 'kickbacks' to the non-Trump real estate developers who sold them US properties? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329483) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329488) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: glittery brunch https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160727235039-47-dnc-gallery-0727-super-169.jpg
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: glittery brunch You mean the way in which Russia brazenly invaded Georgia in '08 only to be rewarded by Obama with a Russian reset?
You mean the Soviets/Russians who have been supporting the anti-war movement in the US for decades, of which Obama was THE prime beneficiary (since he wouldn't have won the very close primary race without the opposition to the Iraq War)?
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/26/world/kgb-officers-try-to-infiltrate-antiwar-groups.html?pagewanted=all |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329492) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: glittery brunch https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160727235039-47-dnc-gallery-0727-super-169.jpg
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Dashing resort lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329741) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine The Georgian invasion (with Russian troops eventually pulling back to previous boundaries and acting in response to Georgian forces) was not nearly as brazen and improper as the invasion of the Ukraine. And that Putin would later invade another country, occupy a portion of it, and work to destabilize it shows the need for a proper response. And yes, the soviet influence in American elections was rightly made an issue in the past and was something this country did respond to (as it should now).
Again, Trump's policy on Russia and his non-enforcement of the sanctions appears not to be part of a framework to gain some concession from Russia, but something else entirely. The administration must explain specifically what it is doing and how it furthers american interests. This is especially warranted given just how outside the mainstream the administration's views on Russia are. |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: glittery brunch Russia took Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which is little different from what happened to Crimea, it's even worse from a moral point of view.
Ossetians and Abkhazians don't even care for Russia (so you can legitimately consider them to be under Russian occupation) while most Eastern Ukranians are inherently pro-russia anyway since they are fellow Orthodox Slavs. |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: khaki titillating dopamine Russia was already in those regions and Georgia never had control of them (they'd been there since '91 and never left). The invasion of Ukraine was even worse in that it destroyed the Ukrainian economy and broke the country apart, and was not in response to any aggressive military action on the part of Ukraine. Even if you believe that the Georgian invasion was worse, wouldn't a second invasion show the need for a response to contain russian aggression? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329624) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: glittery brunch The invasion of Ukraine was a response to the revolution taking down Yanukovych. Yanukovych was democratically elected, the people of Ukraine overall happened to elect a pro-Russian leader, and they were denied the democratic right to do so. Even Yanukovych's former political party was also banned.
There are genuinely pro-Russian/anti-Western Ethnic Orthodox Slavs in Eastern Ukraine and they were politically disenfranchised to the benefit of the pro-Western Catholic Slavs in Western Ukraine.
If people democratically vote for a pro-Russian leader denying them that right is by definition anti-democratic. If the people of Egypt want to vote for the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, and are denied that right, that is also by definition anti-democratic. At that point, it is no longer about democracy. |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping This guy is a literal St Petersburg troll, don’t waste your time. His MO is distraction / Chewbacca defense. Instead of sanctions you’re talking to him about Ossetia. Just link the South Park clip and move on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329834) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: glittery brunch Why do you ignore the context to everything? You make ridiculous baseless assumptions for your arguments and you refuse to address your fallacious premises. Case in point, Obama actively aided and abetted Clinton's maintenance of a private email server, but Obama is 'pure and innocent' in your book despite daring to use a pseudonym to help Clinton avoid FOIA. In reality, Crooked O was a willing partner of Crooked H.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160727235039-47-dnc-gallery-0727-super-169.jpg https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607 |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Why does a wooky live on Endor? It does not make sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329927) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: glittery brunch Obama used a pseudonym to contact Clinton on HER private email server, but he is pure and innocent I swear!!!!!
HE could never be a CROOKED PARTNER of CROOKED SHE. |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: glittery brunch By the way, you do realize that Latham is a standard conservative/national review guy, right?
I guarantee you this is his take on the clinton email server case:
You are literally one of only people in the world who maintains the harebrained view that Clinton and Obama had nothing to do with each other, and that Clinton was a crook while Obama was pure and innocent, and the only reason you have that opinion is because you're nigger with an inferiority complex who supported Obama for no reason other than his subhuman ethnic background. |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: heady kitchen cr and for exactly this reason. international experts are deeply concerned over how unhinged the American media/public has become on the topic of Russia. thank god the White House can step up and be the adults in the room preventing disastrous global-scale blunders from this insanity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328960) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: Contagious french market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328981) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Lol who are these “international experts” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35328983) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: histrionic abode elastic band (((international experts))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35346693) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: orange reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329283) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Talented Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329295) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Dashing resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329392) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Laughsome Dilemma This reads like the Cooley Law Review (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35329848) |
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Date: February 5th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35333954) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35345120) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:19 AM Author: Cerebral Gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35459869) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:20 AM Author: nudist anal juggernaut newt shut the fuck up WLMAS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#35459878) |
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Date: August 19th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Cerebral Gaping Never forget (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3881913&forum_id=2#36643616) |