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Wife had normal delivery. Come ITT and GUESS how much the insurance charged!

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...
Lavender curious stage
  02/09/18
Why is a Gynecologist involved.
Shaky trip potus useless brakes
  02/09/18
$40k edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed in...
Frozen sinister hell
  02/09/18
Before reading on this is my best guess too.
Razzle pearl business firm filthpig
  02/09/18
$10k.
bateful swollen rehab new version
  02/09/18
$8,000?
useless trailer park
  02/09/18
35k.
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
$668,000.
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
$5000
yellow cruel-hearted temple
  02/09/18
70K?
brilliant frum location
  02/09/18
Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds ple...
Lavender curious stage
  02/09/18
If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of health...
Bossy swashbuckling dingle berry police squad
  02/09/18
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Red shitlib preventive strike
  02/09/18
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judgmental space
  02/09/18
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confused ladyboy pistol
  02/09/18
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talented narrow-minded mad cow disease menage
  02/09/18
Same
Supple grizzly mother azn
  02/09/18
you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw
Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
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hairraiser brindle telephone
  02/09/18
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burgundy fantasy-prone nowag philosopher-king
  02/09/18
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contagious buff orchestra pit volcanic crater
  02/09/18
lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in t...
irradiated parlour
  02/09/18
...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%
Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting
  02/09/18
not really a partisan issue, hoss.
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
lol
awkward roast beef
  02/09/18
JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by...
brilliant frum location
  02/09/18
...
Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they too...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare,...
awkward roast beef
  02/09/18
drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex s...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being ab...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow,...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
also cr.
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $...
awkward roast beef
  02/09/18
it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's o...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar ...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the...
Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on i...
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.
fragrant slap-happy stag film community account
  02/09/18
? Doctors are fucking faggots.
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
cr
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the bi...
razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office
  02/09/18
...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
...
big home
  02/09/18
I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current stat...
flesh lay immigrant
  02/09/18
So you paid $2500?
bronze exhilarant nursing home
  02/09/18
Still an obscene amount of money.
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate...
godawful ticket booth
  02/09/18
15k
Titillating greedy toaster
  02/09/18
$5k
adventurous church building
  02/09/18
If we had single payer and a government that set prices you ...
lascivious maize scourge upon the earth ape
  02/09/18
you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped t...
Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting
  02/09/18
...
Domesticated cracking spot
  02/09/18
Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of ev...
Domesticated cracking spot
  02/09/18
Cr
Titillating greedy toaster
  02/09/18
cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their...
plum vivacious gas station prole
  02/09/18
Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run someth...
Razzle pearl business firm filthpig
  02/09/18
having experienced what you blithering retard?
topaz unhinged senate
  02/09/18
I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of mi...
Razzle pearl business firm filthpig
  02/09/18
OP makes no sense. Hospital charges for the best possible...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
*mother does all the work* *nurses yell at her for 15 hours...
brilliant frum location
  02/09/18
the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laugh...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
the idea the we need doctors for something women have done n...
Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
and died doing at unnecessary rates
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupt...
Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not kn...
brilliant frum location
  02/09/18
Cr. Just hang from a rope. https://birthinternational.com...
bronze exhilarant nursing home
  02/09/18
That woman looks like she’s just fat
fear-inspiring transparent ratface
  02/09/18
yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd
plum vivacious gas station prole
  02/09/18
Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases...
Razzle pearl business firm filthpig
  02/09/18
plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home people ...
brilliant frum location
  02/09/18
I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, ac...
Bistre Magical Persian Hospital
  02/09/18
...
bisexual glittery locale
  02/09/18
we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the devel...
awkward roast beef
  02/09/18
this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly stil...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the ac...
awkward roast beef
  02/09/18
we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother...
Wonderful twinkling brunch
  02/09/18
dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in ...
razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office
  02/09/18
Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking...
Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part
  02/09/18
$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still...
razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office
  02/09/18
even cuba fucking pwns us>>> i wouldnt be so qu...
territorial drunken tank plaza
  02/09/18
*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.
razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office
  02/09/18
Ask the father to chip in
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  02/09/18
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Boyish silver lodge dopamine
  02/09/18
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  02/09/18
lol
Out-of-control carnelian circlehead
  02/09/18
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Diverse mustard jap station
  02/09/18
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Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part
  02/09/18
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offensive cruise ship skinny woman
  02/09/18
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180 institution
  02/09/18
this would cost like $600 in Ukraine
judgmental space
  02/09/18
Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach....
multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry the...
Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting
  02/09/18
? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.
Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part
  02/09/18
I do not.
multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
...
judgmental space
  02/09/18
Why would you assume this?
multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is...
multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back an...
Insecure marketing idea
  02/09/18
u got ripped off
plum vivacious gas station prole
  02/09/18
Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k. For a c section...
hot goyim property
  02/09/18
If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat,...
Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part
  02/09/18
$100 flat? Must be an hmo? None of my docs take hmo.
hot goyim property
  02/09/18
I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinchin...
plum vivacious gas station prole
  02/09/18


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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Lavender curious stage

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360658)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:48 AM
Author: Shaky trip potus useless brakes

Why is a Gynecologist involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361156)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Frozen sinister hell

$40k

edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed insurance co. insurance co. obviously negotiated down by like 60% and you paid your deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360663)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Razzle pearl business firm filthpig

Before reading on this is my best guess too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362995)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: bateful swollen rehab new version

$10k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360664)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: useless trailer park

$8,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360666)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

35k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360667)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

$668,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360670)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: yellow cruel-hearted temple

$5000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: brilliant frum location

70K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360674)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Lavender curious stage

Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds please defend?

breakout was $51k hospital, $2.5k anesthesia, $7k gyno. Thank Allah our out-of-pocket max is something like $2500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360680)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Bossy swashbuckling dingle berry police squad

If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of healthcare conglomerates you'll get no pushback from me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360690)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:47 AM
Author: Red shitlib preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361155)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: judgmental space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361175)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: confused ladyboy pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362994)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: talented narrow-minded mad cow disease menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363104)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: Supple grizzly mother azn

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365990)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine

you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360691)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:18 AM
Author: hairraiser brindle telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361183)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: burgundy fantasy-prone nowag philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362938)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: contagious buff orchestra pit volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363039)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: irradiated parlour

lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in the bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363073)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting

...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363229)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

not really a partisan issue, hoss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360692)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: awkward roast beef

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360708)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: brilliant frum location

JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360695)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360699)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they took our insurance on the phone, get to the place, they don't. i tell them we're gonna self pay. instead of 750, paid 225. was told any follow ups was the same deal.

the racket is set up to fuck people unless you're willing to pay up front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360710)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: awkward roast beef

daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare, not insurers, drug companies, or politicians. just boomer doctors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360724)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex series of negotiations happens and in many cases doctors have NO CONTROL over the costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360734)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being about the same plus maybe 50 bucks to the doctor and my cash now was worth me not walking out and getting a no sale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360744)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow, but the idea that the doc is responsible for high drug costs is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360746)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

also cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360750)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: awkward roast beef

strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $2,500 for a community college graduate to push the "RUN" button on an MRI machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360759)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's only the doctor's fault if they're doing it wrong, too much, at the wrong time, etc

otherwise it's on the payer, they set the reimbursement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360773)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar band aid, the 40 dollar meal, etc., pays for things like bad debts/charity care/various cost centers that snake through every hospital like a leviathan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360780)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine

It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the government and the insurers defrauding everyone. From OPs thing, the MDs probably saw like 100 bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360731)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360741)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on it. Let nurses and essential workers at pharmaceutical & medical equipment companies live, and kill everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360760)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: fragrant slap-happy stag film community account

lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360889)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:23 AM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

? Doctors are fucking faggots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360735)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office

how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the billed amount is a total fiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360743)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360745)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: big home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360793)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: flesh lay immigrant

I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current state of healthcare/insurance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362983)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: bronze exhilarant nursing home

So you paid $2500?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363050)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

Still an obscene amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363113)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: godawful ticket booth

Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate healthcare. How can you blame only Republicans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363237)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Titillating greedy toaster

15k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: adventurous church building

$5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360677)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: lascivious maize scourge upon the earth ape

If we had single payer and a government that set prices you wouldn’t have this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360702)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360718)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting

"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped the Trumptard who has never step foot outside his country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363239)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Domesticated cracking spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Domesticated cracking spot

Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of every other first world country with no measurable improvement in healthcare outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363696)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Titillating greedy toaster

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360754)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: plum vivacious gas station prole

cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their checkbook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363066)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Razzle pearl business firm filthpig

Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run something should be the absolute last resort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363084)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: topaz unhinged senate

having experienced what you blithering retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363201)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Razzle pearl business firm filthpig

I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of millions of dollars worth of product purchased by the govt and received accolades, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363312)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

OP makes no sense.

Hospital charges for the best possible delivery in the world could easily be 50K. But the point of insurance is that you only pay something like a fraction of the total cost, I guess 2.5K, to have world class doctors and nurses helping.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360727)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: brilliant frum location

*mother does all the work*

*nurses yell at her for 15 hours to push*

*doctor pops in briefly for 15 minutes to supervise*

*MUH world class doctors and nurses halping*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360752)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laughable

people from around the planet sent their kids to have babies in the USA and pay CASH because we have the best OBGYNs and hospitals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360757)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine

the idea the we need doctors for something women have done naturally for ever is laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360761)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

and died doing at unnecessary rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360777)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine

counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupted a strong eugenic force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360785)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: brilliant frum location

primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not knowing about diseases, which people doing home births have addressed

you're probably more likely to contract a disease at a hospital than at home these days



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360850)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: bronze exhilarant nursing home

Cr. Just hang from a rope.

https://birthinternational.com/product/birth-support-rope/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363061)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: fear-inspiring transparent ratface

That woman looks like she’s just fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35366223)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: plum vivacious gas station prole

yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363077)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Razzle pearl business firm filthpig

Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases in life expectancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363095)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: brilliant frum location

plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home

people only had issues in the past due to lack of cleanliness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360764)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Bistre Magical Persian Hospital

I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360765)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: bisexual glittery locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360913)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: awkward roast beef

we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the developed world. even cuba fucking pwns us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360770)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly

still better than 1750s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360781)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: awkward roast beef

you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the actual points. is that why you're a doctor instead of a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360786)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling brunch

we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother less likely than it was in the past; it's ridiculous to argue it's as safe or less safe than 100 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360797)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office

dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in the us vs other countries with similar mortality rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363041)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part

Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking Slovenians pay $800, with 3x better outcomes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363265)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office

$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still bonkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363315)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: territorial drunken tank plaza

even cuba fucking pwns us>>>

i wouldnt be so quick to trust their self reported statistics. they do shit like venezuela where they had a huge drop in child death due to malnutrition by making it illegal for doctors to file that a child died of malnutrition, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360794)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle crystalline principal's office

*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360762)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: excitant genital piercing

Ask the father to chip in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360739)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Boyish silver lodge dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360747)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Beady-eyed tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360873)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Out-of-control carnelian circlehead

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362896)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: Diverse mustard jap station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362918)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362933)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: offensive cruise ship skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363200)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: 180 institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: judgmental space

this would cost like $600 in Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361176)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house

Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363047)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Haunting stirring shrine famous landscape painting

Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363242)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part

? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363283)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house

I do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363426)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: judgmental space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365984)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house

Why would you assume this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363417)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: multi-colored patrolman step-uncle's house

$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is going to cost that for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363034)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Insecure marketing idea

LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back and lean against a tree to pop the kid out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363071)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: plum vivacious gas station prole

u got ripped off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363088)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: hot goyim property

Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k.

For a c section they charged my insurance $100k lol. What a joke.

I paid $4k (max out of pocket).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Disgusting faggot firefighter party of the first part

If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat, out the door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363289)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: hot goyim property

$100 flat? Must be an hmo?

None of my docs take hmo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363326)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: plum vivacious gas station prole

I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinching shithole. lol at putting the lives of your family in their hands just to save a few thousand bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364691)