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NLRB says Google engineer memo was "so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive

that it was ok to fire him https://www.bloomberg.com/news...
Odious house old irish cottage
  02/17/18
sounds like TRUMP needs to drain the NLRB swamp
Nofapping generalized bond degenerate
  02/17/18
he's put people on the NLRB who have already rolled back a l...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
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twinkling swashbuckling range
  02/17/18
cr NLRB is going to come out in favor of employers bigly in ...
Dead state
  02/17/18
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twinkling swashbuckling range
  02/17/18
good scolarship
Odious house old irish cottage
  02/17/18
ty brother
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
They MAY have consulted with a labor lawyer? LOL by that yo...
Iridescent Doctorate
  02/17/18
You’d be surprised how often companies fail to seek advice f...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
This was a national story. They didn't fire him naked withou...
onyx hunting ground
  02/17/18
I have no doubt they have competent employment attorneys in ...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
of course they got competent labor advice. it's literally th...
Odious house old irish cottage
  02/17/18
he's drawing a distinction between labor lawyers and employm...
Dead state
  02/19/18
the shitty article doesn't specify what the actual actionabl...
Up-to-no-good clear codepig chapel
  02/17/18
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talented idea he suggested cuckold
  02/17/18
in what way was it harmful outside of being disruptive?
twinkling swashbuckling range
  02/17/18
Libs equate speech they don't like as violent and harmful, a...
Bisexual fat ankles
  02/17/18
this decision wasn't made by a lib, it was made by a trump a...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
Fuck this shit
talented idea he suggested cuckold
  02/17/18
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Nofapping generalized bond degenerate
  02/17/18
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rebellious stock car
  02/19/18
the speech was "so harmful" = unadulterated shitli...
Bisexual fat ankles
  02/17/18
Whereas the statements from other Google employees were ok.
awkward native
  02/17/18
it's no use friend
Crusty godawful orchestra pit
  02/17/18
180 decision to replace Christianity with "diversity&qu...
Orchid puppy
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twinkling swashbuckling range
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Nubile hall
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Rough-skinned Space
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Crystalline appetizing wagecucks
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Vivacious Amber Dog Poop
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Mind-boggling parlour philosopher-king
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Hairraiser sweet tailpipe
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sickened ape
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marvelous coldplay fan
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deranged poppy half-breed
  02/17/18
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maniacal contagious site clown
  02/17/18
More like Corporatism:Diversity christianity:virgin birth
shivering trailer park
  02/19/18
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rebellious stock car
  02/19/18
i assume this is apoealable to a real court?
Yapping locale
  02/17/18
No appeal. It’s the equivalent of prosecutorial discretion o...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
is this finding given deference in the civil suit in state c...
aromatic slap-happy school
  02/17/18
No, but the legal issues are 100% different there
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18
ty
aromatic slap-happy school
  02/17/18
Facts are harmful and disruptive
Chest-beating rose roast beef place of business
  02/17/18
Serious question from a non-lawyer who knows zero about thes...
marvelous coldplay fan
  02/17/18
Doesn’t matter one way or another. The only thing the NLRA p...
indigo learning disabled ticket booth
  02/17/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Odious house old irish cottage

that it was ok to fire him

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/google-firing-of-damore-was-legal-u-s-labor-panel-lawyer-said

Google’s firing of an engineer over his controversial memo criticizing its diversity policies and “politically correct monoculture” didn’t violate U.S. labor law, a federal agency lawyer concluded.

Statements in James Damore’s 3,000-word memo “regarding biological differences between the sexes were so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive” that they fell outside protections for collective action in the workplace, an associate general counsel for the National Labor Relations Board wrote in a six-page memo disclosed Thursday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424059)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: Nofapping generalized bond degenerate

sounds like TRUMP needs to drain the NLRB swamp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424068)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

he's put people on the NLRB who have already rolled back a lot of Obama NLRB precedent in just a few months.

in fact, this decision came from the NLRB's current general counsel, who has openly declared that he wants to roll back nearly everything the NLRB has done since 2009.

from what i have read, when they terminated him google was careful to rely ONLY on portions of the memo that were incendiary and arguably could constitute sex discrimination/harassment. they may have consulted with a labor lawyer before firing the guy (or they got lucky in not citing other portions of the memo).

if correct, this is not a controversial decision. the NLRA only protects concerted activity regarding "protected" subjects (pay, working conditions, etc.) if google truly only relied on shit like "WOMEN ARE BAD AT SCIENCE!" in the memo, the NLRA shouldn't protect statements like that anyway. (if you disagree, then you are in agreement, in principle, with the shitlibs Obama packed the NLRB with, who wanted to extend NLRA protection to almost any conduct no matter how tenuously related to working conditions affecting employees as a group.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424089)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: twinkling swashbuckling range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424094)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Dead state

cr NLRB is going to come out in favor of employers bigly in the next couple years, and this is the opening salvo. Libs laughing & high-fiving about this memo don't realize it's a Trojan horse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424103)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: twinkling swashbuckling range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424109)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: Odious house old irish cottage

good scolarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424161)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

ty brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425303)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Iridescent Doctorate

They MAY have consulted with a labor lawyer? LOL by that you mean their chief employment litigation attorney - who probably is an expert in his/her own right - consulted with whoever the best labor lawyer in the country is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425318)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

You’d be surprised how often companies fail to seek advice from someone who knows labor law. Even prominent employment attorneys often know dick about labor law, not even enough to spot the potential NLRA issue here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425716)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: onyx hunting ground

This was a national story. They didn't fire him naked without any advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425755)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

I have no doubt they have competent employment attorneys in house and/or consulted with an outside employment lawyer, but you can’t take for granted that they sought out or received competent labor advice.

Unless the memo was national news before he was fired and the stories were discussing the NLRA protections present in the memo, which I think is unlikely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426057)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Odious house old irish cottage

of course they got competent labor advice. it's literally the 2nd most valuable in the world that employs tens of thousands of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427609)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Dead state

he's drawing a distinction between labor lawyers and employment lawyers. Normies don't even realize there's a difference but labor lawyers think they have some special insight into the arcane workings of the Act (got to call it "the Act" btw that's how they know you're "in") that mere employment lawyers could never hope to grasp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435816)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good clear codepig chapel

the shitty article doesn't specify what the actual actionable statements were. does the decision?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425701)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: talented idea he suggested cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425660)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: twinkling swashbuckling range

in what way was it harmful outside of being disruptive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424070)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Bisexual fat ankles

Libs equate speech they don't like as violent and harmful, and therefore reason it is not protected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424076)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

this decision wasn't made by a lib, it was made by a trump appointee who has declared outright war on all the shitlib Obama-era policies issued over the last 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424144)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: talented idea he suggested cuckold

Fuck this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425668)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Nofapping generalized bond degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425681)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: rebellious stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435862)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: Bisexual fat ankles

the speech was "so harmful" = unadulterated shitlib in the NLRB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424073)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: awkward native

Whereas the statements from other Google employees were ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424081)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Crusty godawful orchestra pit

it's no use friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425322)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Orchid puppy

180 decision to replace Christianity with "diversity" as the moral/religious foundation of society. seems to be working out great so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424106)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: twinkling swashbuckling range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424108)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: Nubile hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424113)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Glassy Magical Resort Macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424120)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424124)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Crystalline appetizing wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424135)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: Vivacious Amber Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424175)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Mind-boggling parlour philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426059)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Hairraiser sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426067)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: sickened ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426180)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: marvelous coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427114)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: deranged poppy half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427152)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: maniacal contagious site clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427678)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: shivering trailer park

More like

Corporatism:Diversity christianity:virgin birth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435850)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: rebellious stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435864)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Yapping locale

i assume this is apoealable to a real court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425719)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

No appeal. It’s the equivalent of prosecutorial discretion on the part of the nlrb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426079)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: aromatic slap-happy school

is this finding given deference in the civil suit in state court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426176)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

No, but the legal issues are 100% different there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426340)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: aromatic slap-happy school

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426410)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Chest-beating rose roast beef place of business

Facts are harmful and disruptive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425826)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: marvelous coldplay fan

Serious question from a non-lawyer who knows zero about these issue.

Is the truth of the statement any kind of defense / work in his favor in any way? Or does that not matter at all b/c you could still be extremely disruptive with the truth...

The word "discriminatory" in that sentence though bugs me b/c for some reason it makes it seem like discriminatory implies untruth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427137)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled ticket booth

Doesn’t matter one way or another. The only thing the NLRA protects is concerted activity aimed at improving the workplace. The NLRB’s prosecutor found that he was terminated only for statements in the memo that had nothing to do with subjects protected by the NLRA so the case was dismissed. The agency did acknowledge that there were protected statements in the memo but google didn’t mention any of that content as the reason he was fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427302)