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France age of consent case: "She is 11 years old and not a child"

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2133282/france...
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US libs: "raise the age of consent to 23!"
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  02/17/18
Plenty of libs support pedophila
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only homosexual pedophilia no?
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What is our there on cases of rape by “surprise”?
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“we are not dealing with a sexual predator on a poor little ...
Buff National Goyim
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typical french logic
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that little slut knew what she was doing!
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No one questions the parenting here. For instance who raised...
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tbf, she thought he was almost 12
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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: Mind-boggling market

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2133282/france-sex-trial-29-year-old-man-she-was-11-years-and-10-months

A 29-year-old French man went on trial Tuesday in a Paris suburb for having sex with an 11-year-old girl, a case that has rekindled strong debate on the age of sexual consent in France.

Unlike many countries, France does not have a legal age under which a minor cannot agree to a sexual relationship – although the country’s top court has ruled that children aged five and under cannot consent. Lawyers for the suspect argued that the girl was consenting and aware of what she was doing, while lawyers for the girl have said she was simply too young and confused to resist.

In a decision that shocked many, the prosecutor’s office in the town of Pontoise decided to put the man on trial not for rape but for charges of “sexual abuse of a minor under 15.”

Defence lawyers say the man and the girl met in a park and the girl voluntarily followed him to an apartment and consented to have sex. They’ve also claim their client, then 28, thought she was over 15.

The girl’s family filed a complaint for rape in the town of Montmagny but prosecutors apparently felt the suspect did not use violence or coercion. French law defines rape as sexual penetration committed “by violence, coercion, threat or surprise.”

“She was 11 years and 10 months old, so nearly 12 years old. It changes the story,” defence lawyer Marc Goudarzian said Tuesday. “So she is not a child.”

His colleague Sandrine Parise-Heideiger went further, claiming “we are not dealing with a sexual predator on a poor little faultless goose.”

She said as soon as children have “sexual expressiveness and you have an attitude of putting yourself in danger” then “it doesn’t necessarily mean the person on the other side is a sexual predator.”

Children’s rights groups and a psychiatrist testifying in the case argued otherwise.

Carine Diebolt, the lawyer for the family, asked the court on Tuesday to re-characterise the charge from sexual abuse to rape.

The suspect “knew very well she was a young child,” said Armelle Le Bigot Macaux, president of the COFRADE, an umbrella group for children’s rights. “This young child isn’t protected today by our French society.”

If convicted of sexual abuse, the suspect, a father of two, faces up to five years in prison. The rape of a minor under 15, however, is punishable with up to 20 years in prison.

The presiding judge said the prosecutor chose a wrong charge and ordered the case to be sent back to investigators for a thorough investigation. As a result, the trial was postponed.

“It’s a victory,” Diebolt told reporters after the trial. “The main thing is that (the girl) can at last be heard as a victim of rape … we can say it’s a victory for the victims.”

Goudarzian, the defence lawyer, claimed the court decision was a result of the wide publicity given to the case.

The Montmagny case is one of several that have prompted an uproar over France’s rules on child sex abusers, which are considered too lax by child rights groups and feminists.

French President Emmanuel Macron’s government has proposed a bill to introduce a minimum legal age for sexual consent for the first time – and includes a provision saying that sex with children under a certain age is by definition coercive.

The proposed minimum age hasn’t yet been decided on, but the cut-off could be between 13 and 15. The bill, a broad-based measure aimed at fighting “sexual and sexist violence,” is expected to be presented to the French Cabinet next month.

A similar recent case caused disbelief and outrage. A French criminal court in November acquitted a 30-year-old man accused of raping an 11-year-old girl in 2009. The jury in the Paris suburban region of Seine-et-Marne found that he didn’t use violence or coercion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895907&forum_id=2#35424965)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Cracking vengeful heaven feces

Xo Marc Goudarzian

"She was 11 years and 10 months old, so nearly 12 years old. It changes the story,” defence lawyer Marc Goudarzian said Tuesday. “So she is not a child.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895907&forum_id=2#35424978)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Shimmering hospital toaster



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: sapphire trailer park



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: histrionic carmine set doctorate

DBG on an Uber to JFK airport. Why?

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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: autistic plaza lettuce

US libs: "raise the age of consent to 23!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895907&forum_id=2#35424999)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Canary Associate Turdskin

Plenty of libs support pedophila

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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: autistic plaza lettuce

only homosexual pedophilia no?

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Maroon at-the-ready jewess school cafeteria



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: Dead stain orchestra pit

He's not wrong

- libs

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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: tan double fault hall

yeah, meanwhile in America: "She was an impressionable 30 y/o who just couldn't say 'no'; her consent can't be taken seriously. it was rape."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895907&forum_id=2#35425034)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:45 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:21 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:41 PM
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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:19 AM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: Plum fluffy partner sweet tailpipe

"The presiding judge said the prosecutor chose a wrong charge and ordered the case to be sent back to investigators for a thorough investigation."

i always lmfao at civil "law" when the judge gives prosbros a mulligan and also tells them how to actually do it right

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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: tan double fault hall

Larry Nassar throws can of Chef Boyardee at cell wall

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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: black trump supporter

Lolol

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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:49 PM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:50 PM
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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:47 AM
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: milky menage

What is our there on cases of rape by “surprise”?

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling market

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Lovedthe Jezabel comments on this story. All the hags want laws based on what they think is “icky”

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Buff National Goyim

“we are not dealing with a sexual predator on a poor little faultless goose.”

wtf

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: bisexual parlour

typical french logic

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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: Thirsty giraffe theater stage

Weird considering what the french do to geese.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:06 AM
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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:18 AM
Author: violent erotic generalized bond coffee pot

loled

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: Shimmering hospital toaster

that little slut knew what she was doing!

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Mind-boggling market

No one questions the parenting here. For instance who raised a kid that thinks it’s A-OK to go home with and fuck a stranger she met in the park? This kid’s life is already a waste and fucked up.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: bisexual parlour

tbf, she thought he was almost 12

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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: Thirsty giraffe theater stage

It's different in France. It's romantic there.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: aromatic mildly autistic personal credit line locale

Mud slime?

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: Mind-boggling market

Article didn’t say but I would bet “yes.”

Diversity is our strength! Multiculturalism!!!!!!1

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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: charismatic cyan new version

Odd that these cases are suddenly attracting notoriety. Somehow the nation existed there for centuries without this being an issue. I wonder what changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895907&forum_id=2#35429035)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: burgundy center ceo

although the country’s top court has ruled that children aged five and under cannot consent.

So 6 year olds can consent in France? DBG on a plane to France

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Vigorous Senate Hominid

how anyone can get laid without taking the girl to a basement wine bar first is beyond me

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