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on the actual bar, are there ever answer choices that are wrong bc "incomplete"?

this is what's giving me the most trouble on the practice Qs...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
3 truly wrong. Poast an example
racy light shrine pistol
  02/17/18
can't think of any right now. but basically: A) Obviou...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Lol you're going to need a real example. But there is alwa...
racy light shrine pistol
  02/17/18
and you noticed a difference between real MBE Qs and fake MB...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
not really. barbris are pretty spot on. and who the fuck is...
Aqua Plaza Associate
  02/17/18
Cr, but on hard questions sometimes that flaw is that it's m...
Ultramarine mewling weed whacker
  02/17/18
huh? post an example
Aqua Plaza Associate
  02/17/18
i've noticed that we're told some answer choices are incorre...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
post examples dude. dont try to extrapolate shit
Aqua Plaza Associate
  02/17/18
nah man. i'm not going to go through my book to post example...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Odd decision for someone asking for help.
Ultramarine mewling weed whacker
  02/17/18
i'm in the middle of learning myself a state subject, not go...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Why the fuck did you make this thread you lazy dipshit
iridescent aggressive church building marketing idea
  02/17/18
well then youre an idiot who cant figure out a test designed...
Aqua Plaza Associate
  02/17/18
poorly executed flame
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Are you on level 6 difficulty? Those questions are insanely...
Ultramarine mewling weed whacker
  02/17/18
not doing barbri but i did a set of Qs that, on a scale of 1...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
You doing Kaplan? A lot of the Kaplan, Barbri, etc. question...
racy light shrine pistol
  02/17/18
I remember one barbri question I got wrong and looked at a f...
drab exciting brunch
  02/17/18
did you notice any difference between barbri Qs and real Qs?...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Some of the barbri questions are worded poorly and some try ...
drab exciting brunch
  02/17/18
what's the difference between hard nuance and ambiguity? ...
Adventurous clown
  02/17/18
Barbri tries to hide the ball on some questions to make them...
drab exciting brunch
  02/17/18
more likely to happen from a test prep company than actual b...
Hyperactive Sooty Factory Reset Button
  02/17/18
On the MBE, some questions are dumb, and some test prep prac...
Yapping house hissy fit
  02/17/18
OK, here's a good example of a SPS question:
Adventurous clown
  02/18/18
A "Fingerprinting involves none of the probing into an...
drab exciting brunch
  02/18/18
yes, A is correct, but only 23% of respondents picked it. 73...
Adventurous clown
  02/18/18
but A implicitly presumes they would need a warrant if they ...
Hyperactive Sooty Factory Reset Button
  02/18/18
a
Startling bawdyhouse
  02/18/18
A
Scarlet Zippy Filthpig
  02/18/18
B
Concupiscible crackhouse doctorate
  02/18/18
(guy with "jd advantage" job)
Vigorous people who are hurt
  02/18/18
A
wonderful gay sneaky criminal school cafeteria
  02/18/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

this is what's giving me the most trouble on the practice Qs: choosing what the company says is true, but "incomplete." i'm usually 50/50 between the right and wrong answer, but sometimes go with the wrong "incomplete" choice.

are real bar questions ever wrong because incomplete? or are there 3 truly wrong and 1 truly correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425099)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: racy light shrine pistol

3 truly wrong. Poast an example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425150)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

can't think of any right now.

but basically:

A) Obviously incorrect

B) Very likely incorrect

C) Could be right, seems right, but would require a leap / an assumption

D) Correct statement of law relevant to the problem

We're told C is correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425204)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: racy light shrine pistol

Lol you're going to need a real example.

But there is always a flaw in three of the answers. One is clearly better than the others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425260)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

and you noticed a difference between real MBE Qs and fake MBE Qs put out by Barbri/Kaplan, et al.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425276)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Aqua Plaza Associate

not really. barbris are pretty spot on. and who the fuck is dumb enough to use kaplan for bar prep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425285)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Ultramarine mewling weed whacker

Cr, but on hard questions sometimes that flaw is that it's merely incomplete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425338)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: Aqua Plaza Associate

huh? post an example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425278)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

i've noticed that we're told some answer choices are incorrect because they're "incomplete," and therefore, "not the best answer," in contrast with a choice that may be more complete (but also required a leap of faith / an assumption to draw the conclusion)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425290)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Aqua Plaza Associate

post examples dude. dont try to extrapolate shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425295)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

nah man. i'm not going to go through my book to post examples to show you shitheads that some of these Qs suck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425324)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Ultramarine mewling weed whacker

Odd decision for someone asking for help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425332)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

i'm in the middle of learning myself a state subject, not going to return to MBE book. just wanted to hear thoughts on something i noticed earlier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425361)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: iridescent aggressive church building marketing idea

Why the fuck did you make this thread you lazy dipshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425333)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Aqua Plaza Associate

well then youre an idiot who cant figure out a test designed to weed out the bottom of the barrel in IQ. doubt anybody else here struggled with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425336)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

poorly executed flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425364)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Ultramarine mewling weed whacker

Are you on level 6 difficulty? Those questions are insanely hard. If you can crush 3-4 you'll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425330)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

not doing barbri but i did a set of Qs that, on a scale of 1-3 (3 being most difficult), were all 3s. i got 56% correct. feeling bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425351)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: racy light shrine pistol

You doing Kaplan? A lot of the Kaplan, Barbri, etc. questions have misstated law. Even some of the videos and outlines have obvious errors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425415)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: drab exciting brunch

I remember one barbri question I got wrong and looked at a flash card I made and was like wtf that should be right. I went back and played the video I made that card off of and compared it to the code and the barbri guy said it totally wrong. Was pissed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425512)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

did you notice any difference between barbri Qs and real Qs? if so, what did you notice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425539)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: drab exciting brunch

Some of the barbri questions are worded poorly and some try to trick you with ambiguity instead of a hard nuance like the real questions. I suggest doing some real questions before you go in there. I think there's a torrent with real questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425608)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

what's the difference between hard nuance and ambiguity?

one of the type of Qs I hate are ones that ask, e.g., "if a jury finds Defendant liable, it is most likely because the court applied the

A) Modern approach

B) Common law

C) English Rule

D) American Rule"

C and D could be ruled out because not related to the subject matter, but fuck if I know the difference between a modern approach and common law in some niche area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425640)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: drab exciting brunch

Barbri tries to hide the ball on some questions to make them harder and you'll end up with a maybe between two answers depending on how you read the fact pattern, and the explanation will be like "this obviously meant the one way so B is correct." The real ones will have some exception to an exception that gets triggered by some detail buried in a bunch of other shit that looks like it's testing something else, but if you know the law on it really well you'll have an obvious answer choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425777)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Hyperactive Sooty Factory Reset Button

more likely to happen from a test prep company than actual bar question, but still rare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35425780)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Yapping house hissy fit

On the MBE, some questions are dumb, and some test prep practice questions are really off. Not sure what company you're using, but I know that some show the breakdown of questions missed - so if you read their explanation and still think the answer is A, and see 50% of people also thought the answer was A, then you're probably okay as long as you understand why minimum wage test prep writer thought it was B.

On the essays, I saw at least one practice essay for my state that was just blatantly incorrect. It was in my practice area and the model answers completely mis-analyzed the issues IMO. I'd be interested to see if real graders would have given my (correct) answer a passing score, but my practice test grader did not..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35426077)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Adventurous clown
Subject: OK, here's a good example of a SPS question:

https://imgur.com/a/XjuNn

A: Deny the motion, because no search occurred.

B: Deny the motion, because fingerprinting is standard booking procedure and no warrant is necessary.

C: Grant the motion, because the defendant did not consent.

D: Grant the motion, if the defendant objected at the time the prints were taken.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430207)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: drab exciting brunch

A

"Fingerprinting involves none of the probing into an individual's private life and thoughts that marks an interrogation or search." See Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, 727 (1969).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430656)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Adventurous clown

yes, A is correct, but only 23% of respondents picked it. 73% picked B.

B is also *correct* but just less responsive to the prompt, although the whole thing is made confusing because the prompt says seizure and A only refers to a search

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35431635)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Hyperactive Sooty Factory Reset Button

but A implicitly presumes they would need a warrant if they did an actual search but can't you always do a search that is "incident to arrest?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35432912)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Startling bawdyhouse

a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430744)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Scarlet Zippy Filthpig

A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430758)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Concupiscible crackhouse doctorate

B

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430784)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Vigorous people who are hurt

(guy with "jd advantage" job)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430791)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: wonderful gay sneaky criminal school cafeteria

A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895928&forum_id=2#35430997)