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US did pretty terrible in WW2 europe- correct?

project torch disaster got absolutely gaped in Italy - ...
comical insanely creepy codepig reading party
  02/21/18
U forgot Japan
Glittery violet location
  02/21/18
Which is of course located right next to Poland.
Fragrant Double Fault Cuck
  02/21/18
Risten
Hairraiser ape
  02/21/18
Doesn't seem like we did anything brilliant or ever have mil...
House-broken Gas Station
  02/21/18
Midway seems like it was mostly luck.
Crimson stimulating nowag multi-billionaire
  02/21/18
*leans into mic*
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
Questioned whether to except midway/ Pacific theater but wa...
House-broken Gas Station
  02/21/18
What?
Soul-stirring lake pistol den
  02/21/18
Eisenhower's "broad front" strategy was also SPS a...
pea-brained odious therapy
  02/21/18
I think you mean Montgomery was BUTTHURT about his loss of c...
sooty low-t dragon
  02/21/18
this is the first paragraph of your link: Not only was it...
Swashbuckling Theatre
  02/21/18
Ok. There was "ample evidence to question" pretty...
pea-brained odious therapy
  02/21/18
some of those decisions had the benefit of having a clearly ...
Swashbuckling Theatre
  02/21/18
*drops lactose bombs ITT*
Hairraiser ape
  02/21/18
isn't this the position of the neonazis that hate the asians...
Insane Coiffed Temple
  02/21/18
We did better than Britain and obviously France and Italy - ...
coral people who are hurt
  02/21/18
the Soviets fought pretty well
Sapphire Puppy Really Tough Guy
  02/21/18
The soviets died well, the Germans did all the killing and c...
Shaky french chef
  02/21/18
Despite our pride, America has always been more of a maritim...
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
US was cautious, but had great results. Only engaging when v...
hideous giraffe
  02/21/18
Cr. Winning land battles wasn't our goal. Our goal is to bom...
Talented crawly public bath
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i love when russians brag about how many of them died. it's ...
Hairraiser ape
  02/21/18
Cr Lol
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
Russians love being dadded around
Onyx aromatic bawdyhouse
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Pearl Jewess Hospital
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Costumed confused prole corner
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lime dilemma quadroon
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Scarlet Abnormal Spot Preventive Strike
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Yeah, Russia did nothing. Only broke the back of the German...
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
Lmao defensiveness is another yuge Russian trait I was...
Hairraiser ape
  02/21/18
I don't think anyone ever says Russia's efforts during WW2 w...
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man. it’s ...
Hairraiser ape
  02/21/18
"that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man....
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
lol The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due t...
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
"The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due to...
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
lol fair, but they couldnt even hang onto it
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
That incompetence and corruption fucking the motherland agai...
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
They really are their own worst enemy. If only they could...
aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit
  02/21/18
"They really are their own worst enemy." For su...
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
is this ARE Reptile?
Self-absorbed exhilarant parlour regret
  02/21/18
Nope. Are Reptile would never admit this.
shimmering charismatic pozpig
  02/21/18
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Self-absorbed exhilarant parlour regret
  02/21/18
Market Garden was also a disaster.
Multi-colored sick gaping
  02/21/18
Not really- only the Arnhem part of the operations, and that...
coral people who are hurt
  02/21/18
We also did stuff like this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bq...
Floppy amber center hairy legs
  02/21/18
Wrong. The RAF did that flying Lancaster and Halifax bomber...
lavender persian incel
  02/21/18
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comical insanely creepy codepig reading party
  02/21/18
It was a roughly 60/40 UK/US split of planes that was coordi...
Floppy amber center hairy legs
  02/21/18
We dropped high explosive bombs a lot of them no even on the...
lavender persian incel
  02/21/18
Slaughtering white women and children was not credited my fr...
hideous giraffe
  02/21/18
war is won by production, US killed it there
cerebral rusted chapel
  02/21/18
titcr
pea-brained odious therapy
  02/21/18
[Guy who has played Axis & Allies.]
Flickering sexy goal in life stead
  02/21/18
Old trope. War was won with American steel, British brains, ...
Carmine vivacious heaven private investor
  02/21/18
British got their shit pushed in and made bone headed decisi...
hideous giraffe
  02/21/18
I think it's a reference to British technology + military in...
Carmine vivacious heaven private investor
  02/21/18
they got theri shit pushed in everywhere and only survived b...
cerebral rusted chapel
  02/21/18
I think they survived because it was literally impossible fo...
Carmine vivacious heaven private investor
  02/21/18
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/02/not-their...
Frum hall
  02/21/18
Yes, but less bad than everyone else, so they won.
Electric bright stain
  02/21/18


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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:36 AM
Author: comical insanely creepy codepig reading party

project torch disaster

got absolutely gaped in Italy - really embarrassing stuff

didn't invade france until halfway through 44

got dadded around by 4th string german troops when they finally arrive

lost most of Europe to the soviets

just really really bad. LOL @ "greatest" generation.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35450983)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:43 AM
Author: Glittery violet location

U forgot Japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35450990)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: Fragrant Double Fault Cuck

Which is of course located right next to Poland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35450995)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:52 AM
Author: Hairraiser ape

Risten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451003)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:00 AM
Author: House-broken Gas Station

Doesn't seem like we did anything brilliant or ever have militarily at the theatre level. Normandy was an unnecessary loss of life. We fucked up mainland Italy invasion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451015)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: Crimson stimulating nowag multi-billionaire

Midway seems like it was mostly luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451199)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

*leans into mic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451203)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: House-broken Gas Station

Questioned whether to except midway/ Pacific theater but was too lazy. I stand by my main point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451529)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Soul-stirring lake pistol den

What?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451830)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:18 AM
Author: pea-brained odious therapy

Eisenhower's "broad front" strategy was also SPS and prolonged the war. Montgomery could have wrapped it up in 1944.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/a-lingering-controversy-eisenhowers-broad-front-strategy.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451053)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: sooty low-t dragon

I think you mean Montgomery was BUTTHURT about his loss of command and British prestige and whined afterwards about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451289)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Theatre

this is the first paragraph of your link:

Not only was it politically impossible to have permitted the British to win the war by means of the narrow front, there is ample evidence to question if such a drive, if mounted, could have been logistically sustained beyond the Ruhr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451429)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: pea-brained odious therapy

Ok. There was "ample evidence to question" pretty much every big decision in the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451625)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Theatre

some of those decisions had the benefit of having a clearly victorious ending.

your speculative proposal has no such benefit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451637)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:21 AM
Author: Hairraiser ape

*drops lactose bombs ITT*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451060)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:23 AM
Author: Insane Coiffed Temple

isn't this the position of the neonazis that hate the asians? Can we get a ruling on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451070)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:21 AM
Author: coral people who are hurt

We did better than Britain and obviously France and Italy - our guys fought really well in the Battle of the Bulge in particular.

Nobody fought as well as Germany, but that's not surprising given their culture. Warrior cultures produce better warriors- duh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451063)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Sapphire Puppy Really Tough Guy

the Soviets fought pretty well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451634)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Shaky french chef

The soviets died well, the Germans did all the killing and couldn't sustain their supply lines through a harsh Russian winter. The timing of Barbarosa was fucked by the incompetent Italians faltering in Greece.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451646)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:27 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

Despite our pride, America has always been more of a maritime/amphibious nation than a land war nation. We briefly went the other way in the civil war out of necessity, but our preferred COA is to fight our wars on someone else’s doorstep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451078)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:30 AM
Author: hideous giraffe

US was cautious, but had great results. Only engaging when victory was more or less assured. The only major fuck up was letting the Brits talk us into Market Garden.

US faught smart not brave. Avoiding the war of attrition being faught in the east was credited as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451081)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:32 AM
Author: Talented crawly public bath

Cr. Winning land battles wasn't our goal. Our goal is to bomb the Germans to bits before the engagement even started

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451086)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Hairraiser ape

i love when russians brag about how many of them died. it's never "we achieved this, and brought that to humanity, etc"

it's always just "yeah but we were slaughtered by the millions, sometimes by our own leaders, and you guys werent"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451091)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

Cr

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451095)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: Onyx aromatic bawdyhouse

Russians love being dadded around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451104)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Pearl Jewess Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451197)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Costumed confused prole corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451377)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: thirsty heady theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451452)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: lime dilemma quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451456)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: Scarlet Abnormal Spot Preventive Strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451515)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

Yeah, Russia did nothing. Only broke the back of the German Army, took Berlin and ended the war. Other than that, what did they do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451581)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: Hairraiser ape

Lmao

defensiveness is another yuge Russian trait

I was implying that Russians are stupid as dogshit for thinking that any and all sacrifices they made were automatically necessary or positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451674)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

I don't think anyone ever says Russia's efforts during WW2 were great because lots of people died. But you go knock down that strawman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451848)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Hairraiser ape

that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man. it’s not like with the US where we can say “hey we made a huge sacrifice but created two incredibly strong capitalistic democracies”

Russians say “we made a huge sacrifice and that in itself is a good thing” even if it accomplished absolutely nothing positive ever for anybody

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451989)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

"that’s ALL Russians ever say, so it’s not a straw man. it’s not like with the US where we can say “hey we made a huge sacrifice but created two incredibly strong capitalistic democracies”"

Germany and ??? In any event, modern Germany is a shitshow.

"Russians say “we made a huge sacrifice and that in itself is a good thing” even if it accomplished absolutely nothing positive ever for anybody"

No they don't. They say we made a huge sacrifice and defeated the Nazis. I've NEVER heard of anyone say "well lots of us died" in a vacuum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452081)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

lol

The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due to incompetence, corruption, and communist fanatacism and still only got to keep the shitty half of europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451714)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

"The Russians literally wasted millions of lives due to incompetence, corruption, and communist fanatacism"

I don't think anyone would deny this.

"and still only got to keep the shitty half of europe"

Keeping half of Europe isn't bad at all.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451834)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

lol fair, but they couldnt even hang onto it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451840)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

That incompetence and corruption fucking the motherland again...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451852)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: aggressive concupiscible orchestra pit

They really are their own worst enemy.

If only they could run a country as well as thet trolled our election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451891)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

"They really are their own worst enemy."

For sure. After everything, the USSR falls apart because some party bosses wanted MOAR for themselves and decided they would be better off as Presidents of various shitstates than governors under a USSR that keeps corruption in basic check.

"If only they could run a country as well as thet trolled our election."

Honestly, they didn't even do that amazing of a job. Democrats and neo-con Rs are the ones that blew this out of proportion and caused massive internal damage within the US (ironically, that incompetence and corruption fucking this country now).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451942)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Self-absorbed exhilarant parlour regret

is this ARE Reptile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451914)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: shimmering charismatic pozpig

Nope. Are Reptile would never admit this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451947)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Self-absorbed exhilarant parlour regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451915)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: Multi-colored sick gaping

Market Garden was also a disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451191)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: coral people who are hurt

Not really- only the Arnhem part of the operations, and that was Brits and Poles. The Americans airborne troops took their objectives in Eindhoven and Nijmegen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451379)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: Floppy amber center hairy legs

We also did stuff like this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BqbYcXWExWs/VXAdM8b3LWI/AAAAAAAAAOs/k7Fn7_KDnko/s1600/Dresden-After-the-Bombing-009.jpg

Which wasn’t impressive tactically but definitely helped break the nazis’ spirit and caused the world to get together and agree that people shouldn’t do stuff like this after the war. Not sure if that counts as good or bad. It was technically permissible under the operative concepts of war, so one could argue we were smart to press our advantage and if the shoe was on the other foot the nazis wouldn’t have hesitated to do the same or worse to us/to London.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451211)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: lavender persian incel

Wrong. The RAF did that flying Lancaster and Halifax bombers at night with 6 people in them but 3 times the bomb load of our B17 and B24 which had ten people and did “precision” daylight bombing.

In Japan, LeMay got it right and ran B29s at night with incendiary bombs and destroyed pretty much everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451368)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: comical insanely creepy codepig reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451574)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: Floppy amber center hairy legs

It was a roughly 60/40 UK/US split of planes that was coordinated and co-planned. The main reason we didn't have more of a 50/50 role was weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451888)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: lavender persian incel

We dropped high explosive bombs a lot of them no even on the right city which did jack shit. XO Bomber Harris torched the city with incendiaries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452349)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: hideous giraffe

Slaughtering white women and children was not credited my friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452093)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: cerebral rusted chapel

war is won by production, US killed it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451447)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: pea-brained odious therapy

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451636)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Flickering sexy goal in life stead

[Guy who has played Axis & Allies.]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451823)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Carmine vivacious heaven private investor

Old trope. War was won with American steel, British brains, and Soviet blood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451935)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: hideous giraffe

British got their shit pushed in and made bone headed decisions the whole time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452105)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Carmine vivacious heaven private investor

I think it's a reference to British technology + military intelligence. Crucial advancements (radar, proximity fuses for AA guns, etc) were British.

Their battlefield decisions, both with Montgomery and in SE Asia, were questionable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452127)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: cerebral rusted chapel

they got theri shit pushed in everywhere and only survived becasue they had a good air force and zee germans didnt want to bomb the shit out of places they want to live

at least the latter is what i laerned from dunkirk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452316)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Carmine vivacious heaven private investor

I think they survived because it was literally impossible for the Germans to conduct an invasion without first destroying the Royal Navy, something they were never capable of doing (or even attempted).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452365)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Frum hall

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/02/not-their-finest-hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35452695)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: Electric bright stain

Yes, but less bad than everyone else, so they won.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899266&forum_id=2#35451718)