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we incarcerate negros at a far too high rate

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Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
as opposed to just allowing baltimore-style crime everywhere...
Cerebral office
  02/24/18
what's your solution?
greedy base
  02/24/18
more specifically, what's your "final" solution?
magenta pocket flask
  02/24/18
lighter sentences for drugs obviously but im assuming this i...
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
Seems like all I type in political threads is "(non-res...
greedy base
  02/24/18
You're suggesting that the total number of blacks in prison ...
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
nope: Incarceration Nation How to Cut the Prison Popu...
pearl stubborn public bath sound barrier
  02/24/18
Use your words little breh
fragrant really tough guy
  02/24/18
people don't go to jail for drugs alone anymore. that's mor...
pearl stubborn public bath sound barrier
  02/24/18
cr. and if they are in there for "drugs" it's b...
Arousing gas station twinkling uncleanness
  02/24/18
no
greedy base
  02/24/18
So you agree that my solution would work?
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
what if we introduce corporeal punishment and humiliation ba...
honey-headed temple friendly grandma
  02/24/18
that would be amazing
aromatic startling son of senegal
  02/24/18
do you realize how difficult it is to get sent to prison? th...
aromatic startling son of senegal
  02/24/18
So if weed was recreationally legal those repeat bros wouldn...
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
they'd still do other shit, like public intoxication
aromatic startling son of senegal
  02/24/18
wouldnt it at least reduce black in jail then?
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
why is this a goal? black communities better off if they're ...
Charismatic misanthropic tank
  02/24/18
like is spaceporn was black hed prolly get fucked for smokin...
Silver vivacious address
  02/24/18
lol
Provocative startled field
  02/24/18


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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:14 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479748)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: Cerebral office

as opposed to just allowing baltimore-style crime everywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479786)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: greedy base

what's your solution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479789)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: magenta pocket flask

more specifically, what's your "final" solution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479793)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

lighter sentences for drugs obviously but im assuming this is already happening

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479813)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: greedy base

Seems like all I type in political threads is "(non-responsive)"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479864)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

You're suggesting that the total number of blacks in prison at a given time would not decrease if the average drug charge carried a shorter sentence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35479993)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: pearl stubborn public bath sound barrier

nope:

Incarceration Nation

How to Cut the Prison Population (See for Yourself)

When Barack Obama, the Koch Brothers, the American Civil Liberties Union and Newt Gingrich all agree on an issue, you know that something important may be happening.

And you also know that there must be a catch, or maybe three.

“Criminal justice reform” — cutting back on a rate of incarceration that jumped fourfold in four decades — has become a bipartisan buzzword. Many people of different political stripes agree that too many Americans are being imprisoned for too long, with too little rehabilitation, consuming public budgets and hollowing out African-American communities in particular.

Although the number of people held in state and federal prisons appears to have leveled off at about 1.6 million — 2.2 million if those in local jails are counted — some scholars and activists are calling for far more ambitious change. They ask: Why not reduce the prison population by a quarter or even by half? (That would still leave it far higher than it was a few decades back, when crime was more rampant than today.)...

A new interactive “prison population forecaster,” posted online Tuesday by the Urban Institute, a liberal-leaning think tank in Washington, aims to help fill that void and yields some sobering conclusions:

http://webapp.urban.org/reducing-mass-incarceration/index.html

The interactive program allows you to assess for yourself the impact of different policy changes. Cut in half the sentences for those convicted of property crimes? Inmates in 2021 are down by 10 percent.

What surprised me most in using the tool, as one who has followed the debate on criminal reform, is just how hard it will be to turn back the clock and achieve deep reductions in incarceration. Traffic tickets for pot smokers won’t take us there, and neither will making petty thieves sweep sidewalks or retroactively ending the wildly disparate sentences for crack possession...

There is no avoiding the politically poisonous question of releasing violent offenders or reducing their long sentences. “We need to start what’s going to be a long and difficult conversation about violent crime,” Mr. King said.

I was startled by these calculations for New Jersey, for example: Cutting in half the number of people sent to prison for drug crimes would reduce the prison population at the end of 2021 by only 3 percent. By contrast, cutting the effective sentences, or time actually served, for violent offenders by just 15 percent would reduce the number of inmates in 2021 by 7 percent — more than twice as much, but still hardly the revolution many reformers seek.

New Jersey could reduce its prison population by 25 percent by 2021. But to do it, it would have to take the politically fraught step of cutting in half the effective sentences for violent offenders.

In other words, the real debate over how to deal with criminals has hardly begun. And that debate will inevitably have to be argued state by state on terms that may well cause the bipartisan agreement on the need for change, focused on nonviolent offenders, to break down...

The inescapable facts revealed to anyone using with the Urban Institute tool: Big cuts in incarceration must come at the state level, and they will have to involve rethinking of sentences for violent criminals

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/upshot/how-to-cut-the-prison-population-see-for-yourself.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480012)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: fragrant really tough guy

Use your words little breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480025)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: pearl stubborn public bath sound barrier

people don't go to jail for drugs alone anymore. that's more of a 90's-and-earlier stereotype. in practice, most people in prison were convicted of crimes involving violence or weapons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480044)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:24 PM
Author: Arousing gas station twinkling uncleanness

cr.

and if they are in there for "drugs" it's because they violated the terms of their probation or supervised release for a more serious crime and get locked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480272)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: greedy base

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480033)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

So you agree that my solution would work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480040)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: honey-headed temple friendly grandma

what if we introduce corporeal punishment and humiliation back into the system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480010)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: aromatic startling son of senegal

that would be amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480041)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: aromatic startling son of senegal

do you realize how difficult it is to get sent to prison? the nigs in prison have either done something really, really bad or have done something minor really, really often. the people in prison for minor drug charges have had hundreds of contacts with law enforcement over their lifetime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480039)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

So if weed was recreationally legal those repeat bros wouldn't go to prison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480053)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: aromatic startling son of senegal

they'd still do other shit, like public intoxication

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480080)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

wouldnt it at least reduce black in jail then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480114)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Charismatic misanthropic tank

why is this a goal? black communities better off if they're flooded with habitual drug abusers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480150)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Silver vivacious address

like is spaceporn was black hed prolly get fucked for smoking pot while watching his kid in the park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480155)



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Date: February 24th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: Provocative startled field

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903067&forum_id=2#35480223)